Libl Hypocrit Watch-GroundZero Mosque = freedom, but cigarrettes and transfat don't??

[teapartysamurai]

You guys ever wonder how come they can ban cigarrettes and transfat in NY and no one complains about a "loss of freedom" but it's "UnAmerican" to object to the Ground Zero Mosque???????

How come we HAVE to HAVE a Ground Zero Mosque to prove we believe in freedom, but we can't let some poor schmo working on the mosque smoke a cigarrette in public, or get transfats in his favorite restaurant?????

Freedom? Or just another example of liberals only care about "freedom" when it serves their UNAmerican agenda???????

 

[NYcarbineer]

That would make you the hypocrite.

Think before you post.

 

[Greenbeard]

Did you know you're not even allowed to walk down the street in New York and knife somebody in the stomach? What's that about?

 

[NYcarbineer]

You guys ever wonder how come they can ban cigarrettes and transfat in NY and no one complains about a "loss of freedom" but it's "UnAmerican" to object to the Ground Zero Mosque???????

How come we HAVE to HAVE a Ground Zero Mosque to prove we believe in freedom, but we can't let some poor schmo working on the mosque smoke a cigarrette in public, or get transfats in his favorite restaurant?????

Freedom? Or just another example of liberals only care about "freedom" when it serves their UNAmerican agenda???????

Freedom of religion is now classified as un-American?

You know, I've always believed that most rightwingers secretly believed that; thanks for stepping up and adding your name to the list.

 

[teapartysamurai]

That would make you the hypocrite.

Think before you post.

Exactly HOW???????

Or do you have to "think" before you post that?

Ooooo, I hit a nerve, didn't I????

 

[teapartysamurai]

Did you know you're not even allowed to walk down the street in New York and knife somebody in the stomach? What's that about?

And cigarettes and transfat are AKIN to that in your mind??????

 

[Greenbeard]

Did you know you're not even allowed to walk down the street in New York and knife somebody in the stomach? What's that about?

And cigarettes and transfat are AKIN to that in your mind??????

Freedom is being able to do whatever you want without regard for the well-being of anyone else. Regulations--on carcinogens, transfats, violence, unsafe food or products--are chains on our wrists! Why do you hate freedom?

 

[teapartysamurai]

You guys ever wonder how come they can ban cigarrettes and transfat in NY and no one complains about a "loss of freedom" but it's "UnAmerican" to object to the Ground Zero Mosque???????

How come we HAVE to HAVE a Ground Zero Mosque to prove we believe in freedom, but we can't let some poor schmo working on the mosque smoke a cigarrette in public, or get transfats in his favorite restaurant?????

Freedom? Or just another example of liberals only care about "freedom" when it serves their UNAmerican agenda???????

Freedom of religion is now classified as un-American?

You know, I've always believed that most rightwingers secretly believed that; thanks for stepping up and adding your name to the list.

SINCE WHEN are liberals for the freedom of religion????????

They have been fighting to keep it out of schools, out of the public place, out of courts for DECADES, and suddenly when it's a mosque at ground zero they are for it???????

That says a LOT more about liberals than it does about us.

And it doesn't address how come liberals are only for FREEDOM when it comes to denigrating ground zero!!!!

But you want to fire up a cancer stick ALL of a sudden, they aren't for freedom. Or how about some good old fashioned lard fried doughnuts??????

OH! Can't have that!!!!!!!!!!

Liberals have NEVER BEEN FOR FREEDOM! They are only for sticking their thumbs in the eyes of those who do believe in freedom.

That's why they can say those that died on 9/11 were "little Adolf Eichmans" (remember that one, I sure do).

And we are supposed to believe none of that has to do with wanting a Mosque on ground zero?????????

Yeah right!

 

[teapartysamurai]

Did you know you're not even allowed to walk down the street in New York and knife somebody in the stomach? What's that about?

And cigarettes and transfat are AKIN to that in your mind??????

Freedom is being able to do whatever you want without regard for the well-being of anyone else. Regulations--on carcinogens, transfats, violence, unsafe food or products--are chains on our wrists! Why do you hate freedom?

Then explain WHY it's okay for NY to do that????

Because liberals are all for that stuff.

NY has banned cigarettes. NOOOOOOOOOO cries about freedom from the left.

Has banned transfat. Noooooooooooooo cries of freedom from the left.

BUT YOU OBJECT TO A MOSQUE AT GROUND ZERO AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, the left have a holier than thou hissy fit!

And they are the defenders of freedom???????????????

 

[NYcarbineer]

You guys ever wonder how come they can ban cigarrettes and transfat in NY and no one complains about a "loss of freedom" but it's "UnAmerican" to object to the Ground Zero Mosque???????

How come we HAVE to HAVE a Ground Zero Mosque to prove we believe in freedom, but we can't let some poor schmo working on the mosque smoke a cigarrette in public, or get transfats in his favorite restaurant?????

Freedom? Or just another example of liberals only care about "freedom" when it serves their UNAmerican agenda???????

Freedom of religion is now classified as un-American?

You know, I've always believed that most rightwingers secretly believed that; thanks for stepping up and adding your name to the list.

SINCE WHEN are liberals for the freedom of religion????????

They have been fighting to keep it out of schools, out of the public place, out of courts for DECADES, and suddenly when it's a mosque at ground zero they are for it???????

That says a LOT more about liberals than it does about us.

And it doesn't address how come liberals are only for FREEDOM when it comes to denigrating ground zero!!!!

But you want to fire up a cancer stick ALL of a sudden, they aren't for freedom. Or how about some good old fashioned lard fried doughnuts??????

OH! Can't have that!!!!!!!!!!

Liberals have NEVER BEEN FOR FREEDOM! They are only for sticking their thumbs in the eyes of those who do believe in freedom.

That's why they can say those that died on 9/11 were "little Adolf Eichmans" (remember that one, I sure do).

And we are supposed to believe none of that has to do with wanting a Mosque on ground zero?????????

Yeah right!

When did I say that? I'm liberal. I support the mosque building because it's freedom of religion. I have never in my life opposed the building of a house of worship on private property.

Why am I a hypocrite?

You just called supporting freedom of religion UN-AMERICAN. You revealed your true self.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Did you know you're not even allowed to walk down the street in New York and knife somebody in the stomach? What's that about?

And cigarettes and transfat are AKIN to that in your mind??????

Cigarettes and trans fats have nothing to do with religious freedom. Your analogy is mentally deranged.

 

[Greenbeard]

And cigarettes and transfat are AKIN to that in your mind??????

Freedom is being able to do whatever you want without regard for the well-being of anyone else. Regulations--on carcinogens, transfats, violence, unsafe food or products--are chains on our wrists! Why do you hate freedom?

Then explain WHY it's okay for NY to do that????

Because liberals are all for that stuff.

NY has banned cigarettes. NOOOOOOOOOO cries about freedom from the left.

Has banned transfat. Noooooooooooooo cries of freedom from the left.

BUT YOU OBJECT TO A MOSQUE AT GROUND ZERO AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, the left have a holier than thou hissy fit!

And they are the defenders of freedom???????????????

Let me put it this way: most people (and if you're anti-stomach knifing, you're among them) believe some degree of regulation of behavior and products is acceptable. What that degree is would be something decided by the community or its duly elected representatives. Municipalities can ban smoking, transfats, foie gras, they can even stop you from building things by requiring permits and having zoning laws. All of this is perfectly acceptable in our society, even if your personal vision of freedom is regulation-less anarchy.

In this particular instance, the relevant New York City community board has approved this mosque or community center or whatever it is. So your claim is that the people that didn't protest when NYC representatives banned transfats aren't protesting when community representatives didn't disallow this mosque to be built? And somehow there's hypocrisy in there on someone's part?

I don't live in New York. As such, I don't give two shits what the city bans or what structures it allows to be built. Those are municipal issues and I don't live in that municipality.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Freedom of religion is now classified as un-American?

You know, I've always believed that most rightwingers secretly believed that; thanks for stepping up and adding your name to the list.

SINCE WHEN are liberals for the freedom of religion????????

They have been fighting to keep it out of schools, out of the public place, out of courts for DECADES, and suddenly when it's a mosque at ground zero they are for it???????

That says a LOT more about liberals than it does about us.

And it doesn't address how come liberals are only for FREEDOM when it comes to denigrating ground zero!!!!

But you want to fire up a cancer stick ALL of a sudden, they aren't for freedom. Or how about some good old fashioned lard fried doughnuts??????

OH! Can't have that!!!!!!!!!!

Liberals have NEVER BEEN FOR FREEDOM! They are only for sticking their thumbs in the eyes of those who do believe in freedom.

That's why they can say those that died on 9/11 were "little Adolf Eichmans" (remember that one, I sure do).

And we are supposed to believe none of that has to do with wanting a Mosque on ground zero?????????

Yeah right!

When did I say that? I'm liberal. I support the mosque building because it's freedom of religion. I have never in my life opposed the building of a house of worship on private property.

Why am I a hypocrite?

You just called supporting freedom of religion UN-AMERICAN. You revealed your true self.

Well can you explain WHY THEN NY is dragging it's feet on the GREEK ORTHODOX CHURCH that was right across the street from ground zero????????

They are still waiting to rebuild. There are dozens of mosques in NY City. How many Greek Orthodox Churches?

And that Church WAS DESTROYED ON 9/11 THE MOSQUE WAS NOT!!!!!!!

Why can't we rebuild the Church that was destroyed on 9/11????????

For some reason all these liberals that are soooooooooooooooooo for "freedom of religion" are silent on this!

Gee, I wonder why!

 

[teapartysamurai]

Did you know you're not even allowed to walk down the street in New York and knife somebody in the stomach? What's that about?

And cigarettes and transfat are AKIN to that in your mind??????

Cigarettes and trans fats have nothing to do with religious freedom. Your analogy is mentally deranged.

BWAHAHAAAA!

See what I mean???????

Liberals aren't for freedom!!!!!!!! They never have been.

When presented with their own hypocrisy, all they can say is THAT'S DIFFERENT!!!!!!!!

Freedom is freedom carbiner. If you are soooooooooooooo for freedom, why do you pick and choose your freedoms?????

 

[teapartysamurai]

Freedom is being able to do whatever you want without regard for the well-being of anyone else. Regulations--on carcinogens, transfats, violence, unsafe food or products--are chains on our wrists! Why do you hate freedom?

Then explain WHY it's okay for NY to do that????

Because liberals are all for that stuff.

NY has banned cigarettes. NOOOOOOOOOO cries about freedom from the left.

Has banned transfat. Noooooooooooooo cries of freedom from the left.

BUT YOU OBJECT TO A MOSQUE AT GROUND ZERO AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, the left have a holier than thou hissy fit!

And they are the defenders of freedom???????????????

Let me put it this way: most people (and if you're anti-stomach knifing, you're among them) believe some degree of regulation of behavior and products is acceptable. What that degree is would be something decided by the community or its duly elected representatives. Municipalities can ban smoking, transfats, foie gras, they can even stop you from building things by requiring permits and having zoning laws. All of this is perfectly acceptable in our society, even if your personal vision of freedom is regulation-less anarchy.

In this particular instance, the relevant New York City community board has approved this mosque or community center or whatever it is. So your claim is that the people that didn't protest when NYC representatives banned transfats aren't protesting when community representatives didn't disallow this mosque to be built? And somehow there's hypocrisy in there on someone's part?

I don't live in New York. As such, I don't give two shits what the city bans or what structures it allows to be built. Those are municipal issues and I don't live in that municipality.

The point is, liberals are ALL for bans on cigarrettes and transfat.

But when they get a chance to put a mosque on ground zero. A huge statement that the muslims won on 9/11? OH!!!!!!!! They preach to us about freedom????????

FUNNY!!!!!!!!!

 

[Greenbeard]

The point is, liberals are ALL for bans on cigarrettes and transfat.

But when they get a chance to put a mosque on ground zero. A huge statement that the muslims won on 9/11? OH!!!!!!!! They preach to us about freedom????????

FUNNY!!!!!!!!!

So in your mind, the "liberal" position on all things should be "ban it"? Pornography, drugs, foie gras, mosques, synagogues, prostitution, transfats, and so on? All liberals hate freedom so much they reflexively (or should, at last) support banning all of those things? You seem to have a very tenuous grasp on how people who are not you actually think.

 

[johnrocks]

Why I lean so hard libertarian with neither liberal nor conservative ideology giving more than blather and empty rhetoric to freedom anymore, give me the days when either conservative or liberal meant less government not less freedom.

 

[NYcarbineer]

And cigarettes and transfat are AKIN to that in your mind??????

Cigarettes and trans fats have nothing to do with religious freedom. Your analogy is mentally deranged.

BWAHAHAAAA!

See what I mean???????

Liberals aren't for freedom!!!!!!!! They never have been.

When presented with their own hypocrisy, all they can say is THAT'S DIFFERENT!!!!!!!!

Freedom is freedom carbiner. If you are soooooooooooooo for freedom, why do you pick and choose your freedoms?????

Why do you oppose a woman's constitutionally protected FREEDOM to choose to have an abortion?

Do you oppose gays having the freedom to marry?

Do you oppose Muslims having the freedom to build a mosque?

 

[blu]

You guys ever wonder how come they can ban cigarrettes and transfat in NY and no one complains about a "loss of freedom" but it's "UnAmerican" to object to the Ground Zero Mosque???????

How come we HAVE to HAVE a Ground Zero Mosque to prove we believe in freedom, but we can't let some poor schmo working on the mosque smoke a cigarrette in public, or get transfats in his favorite restaurant?????

Freedom? Or just another example of liberals only care about "freedom" when it serves their UNAmerican agenda???????

ever heard of a Non sequitur ?

 

[NYcarbineer]

I support the right of the People of any given constituency/government to choose, by the democratic process, how cigarettes are regulated.

There is no constitutional protection for smoking. There is a constitutional protection for practicing one's religion.

Again, the two are incomparable.