Beukema's thread about "what is a dollar" came right on the heels of the Federal Government's conviction of Bernard VonNothaus for domestic terrorism in regard to the Liberty Dollar (which is now no more, the price of those remaining now going through the roof). His story is a good one, and it really is a political statement by Government more than a criminal one. Bernard was a great detractor of the Federal Reserve, and the story of the Liberty Dollar (from its inception) is one of those who are frustrated and see the damage the Fed has done/continues to do to the US Dollar. Basically, it was an ounce of silver, minted as a token to facilitate barter among those who chose to use it. You have to go further than the reports of the trial, they will leave you with the impression that Bernard was just a forger, lunatic, terrorist. Look at older articles and watch the progression from "currency" to "forging" and ultimately to "domestic terrorism." I think Bernie could have saved himself a lot of trouble if he hadn't been so pig-headed, but at the same time, I think the Government hiding their political motivation behind the veil of "domestic terrorism" is pretty shitty too. Bottom line is, the Government just acquired $16,000,000 of silver for free, and an angry, hard-headed, eclectic genius will die in a Federal prison.