Libertarians to the Rescue?

Then exempt all Texans from all federal taxes....Like that'll happen.

Somebody has to be first

If Libertarian ideals really work, this would be a fine opportunity to see if the private sector can handle disasters by themselves

Libertarian blowhards have VERY short memories......like last year when Texas and a couple of other RED states blasted FEMA for cutting off funds for the wildfire relief.

Bottom line, if a libertarian has his, fuck everyone else (although the little shits sure as hell use the COMMONS like everyone else).
 
You don't think those neighboring towns and churches are going to help out at all? You've got a really grim view of your fellow man.

Where have you been living all your life while the rest of this country has repeatedly pulled together during times of crises from the local level to the national level, to help fellow citizens out?

After 9/11, people pulled together and raised BILLIONS.

I think that's great and I know that after Hurricane katrina, I donated some money and offered three bedrooms in my house to a family from new Orleans (I lived in Houston at the time). Guess what? After all the donations and such, it wasn't even CLOSE to scratching the surface of need there.
I have a LOT of faith in my fellow man but there is only so much people can do - especially in these tight economic times.
If you are trying to convince yourself that federal assistance isn't necessary, in order to validate your Libertarian views, you're reaching pretty far out of the realm of reality. it's just not accurate.
 
You don't think those neighboring towns and churches are going to help out at all? You've got a really grim view of your fellow man.

Where have you been living all your life while the rest of this country has repeatedly pulled together during times of crises from the local level to the national level, to help fellow citizens out?

After 9/11, people pulled together and raised BILLIONS.

I think that's great and I know that after Hurricane katrina, I donated some money and offered three bedrooms in my house to a family from new Orleans (I lived in Houston at the time). Guess what? After all the donations and such, it wasn't even CLOSE to scratching the surface of need there.
I have a LOT of faith in my fellow man but there is only so much people can do - especially in these tight economic times.
If you are trying to convince yourself that federal assistance isn't necessary, in order to validate your Libertarian views, you're reaching pretty far out of the realm of reality. it's just not accurate.
How many of the FEMA trailers went unused and were ultimately liquidated, Mr. Know-it-all?

Fact remains that the feds can throw around a bunch of taxpayer money on all the window dressing they want, but they cannot deliver relevant aid to people from whom they are completely detached.
 
You don't think those neighboring towns and churches are going to help out at all? You've got a really grim view of your fellow man.

Where have you been living all your life while the rest of this country has repeatedly pulled together during times of crises from the local level to the national level, to help fellow citizens out?

After 9/11, people pulled together and raised BILLIONS.

I think that's great and I know that after Hurricane katrina, I donated some money and offered three bedrooms in my house to a family from new Orleans (I lived in Houston at the time). Guess what? After all the donations and such, it wasn't even CLOSE to scratching the surface of need there.
I have a LOT of faith in my fellow man but there is only so much people can do - especially in these tight economic times.
If you are trying to convince yourself that federal assistance isn't necessary, in order to validate your Libertarian views, you're reaching pretty far out of the realm of reality. it's just not accurate.
How many of the FEMA trailers went unused and were ultimately liquidated, Mr. Know-it-all?

Fact remains that the feds can throw around a bunch of taxpayer money on all the window dressing they want, but they cannot deliver relevant aid to people from whom they are completely detached.

FEMA trailers unused? Well Bush appointed a blithering idiot who couldn't handle a child's birthday party to handle it, so I wouldn't know.
As far as the "Mr Know it all thing, your inferiority complex is showing again. I don't claim to know it all. I claim to have lived in Houston during a time when federal help was needed. And it was. I did S&R and was almost killed by a tree and my own ineptitude. Why? We were short handed.
I had a family scheduled to come lie with me and guess what? FEMA LOST them!!! It was an absolute clusterfluck. And although it was terribly run under Bush and Brown, Fed Assistance was better than nothing.
Are you really such a whackjob that you think there is never a need for federal assistance?
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I sure would like to see Ron Paul go to Dallas, TX tomorrow and tell those tornado victims:

"Don't take any federal money! Your churches and neighboring cities will help you out!"

I bet you that'll be the first time in his political career that Paul wished for a better gun control law! :lol:

What you don't get about libertarians is that they would already have adequate insurance so as to be able to recoup their losses without burdening anyone else.

I have additional homeowners insurance riders that will put me up in an apartment until my house is rebuilt. I have disability insurance so that if i get hurt I still have 70% of my pay coming in tax free.

And I'll get that money a lot faster than I would any government handout that has to travel between 30 different offices before it gets to me.

So while you're waiting for your government trailer and supply of fake cheese, I'll be set up in an apartment and eating out at a local pub.

What YOU don't get that is that for every person like you who can afford all that insurance, there are a many, many more who are JUST AS HARD WORKING AS YOU who can't. And many of those people do jobs that essentially provide the basis for the lifestyle that YOU have become comfortable and accustomed to. And PUH-LEEZE don't blow that bullhorn that all libertarian people are financially secure enough to be totally devoid of any gov't benefits or insurance.

Here's a little reality check regarding insurance companies and disaster claims:

AAJ Report Reveals


Texas has taken steps

Homeowners' Insurance Claims Denied?

I seem to recall when FEMA caught hell when it ceased assistance during the Texas wildfires last year...it was the TEXANS that were screaming for federal aid.


When you can PROVE your little assertion that ALL libertarian are just like YOU claim here, then maybe you have a point. If not, I'd stay out of Dallas if I were you.....and if you're there, don't brag. Also, I would dearly love to know how you're going to allegedly enjoy all those creature comforts your private insurance company provides at a PUBLIC bar whose private insurance may not cover his rebuilding, or if the PUBLIC power grid goes down and the STATE is overwhelmed until FEDERAL assistance BEYOND national guard comes to help.

I didn't say all libertarians are like me. I said a true libertarian is like me. Big difference

They could afford insurance if it was a priority. I hear people like you whine all the time that they can't afford shit but then I look and notice they have a newer car than I do, a more expensive cell phone than I do, twice as many clothes in their closet as I do etc.

And I have yet to find a public bar. Most bars I have ever frequented are privately owned.

I've lost power many times because the power utility around me sucks which is why I had a propane generator installed and buried a 500 gallon propane tank in my back yard

And I see the need to explain again that there is a difference between the federal government giving aid to a state government and individuals taking federal aid.

You people don't seem to understand that if you take care of yourself you get better results than you would if you wait for the fucking government
 
What you don't get about libertarians is that they would already have adequate insurance so as to be able to recoup their losses without burdening anyone else.

I have additional homeowners insurance riders that will put me up in an apartment until my house is rebuilt. I have disability insurance so that if i get hurt I still have 70% of my pay coming in tax free.

And I'll get that money a lot faster than I would any government handout that has to travel between 30 different offices before it gets to me.

So while you're waiting for your government trailer and supply of fake cheese, I'll be set up in an apartment and eating out at a local pub.

What YOU don't get that is that for every person like you who can afford all that insurance, there are a many, many more who are JUST AS HARD WORKING AS YOU who can't. And many of those people do jobs that essentially provide the basis for the lifestyle that YOU have become comfortable and accustomed to. And PUH-LEEZE don't blow that bullhorn that all libertarian people are financially secure enough to be totally devoid of any gov't benefits or insurance.

Here's a little reality check regarding insurance companies and disaster claims:

AAJ Report Reveals


Texas has taken steps

Homeowners' Insurance Claims Denied?

I seem to recall when FEMA caught hell when it ceased assistance during the Texas wildfires last year...it was the TEXANS that were screaming for federal aid.


When you can PROVE your little assertion that ALL libertarian are just like YOU claim here, then maybe you have a point. If not, I'd stay out of Dallas if I were you.....and if you're there, don't brag. Also, I would dearly love to know how you're going to allegedly enjoy all those creature comforts your private insurance company provides at a PUBLIC bar whose private insurance may not cover his rebuilding, or if the PUBLIC power grid goes down and the STATE is overwhelmed until FEDERAL assistance BEYOND national guard comes to help.

I didn't say all libertarians are like me. I said a true libertarian is like me. Big difference

Oh spare us all the lame ass attempt by you to dodge the issue.....whenever libertarian lunkheads are caught flat footed WRONG about their dogma, they try to play games.

"True libertarians?" Are you so fucking deluded that you think a "true libertarian" is the ONLY person that's insured like you are? Newsflash, bunky....there are Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives, progressives, tea partiers, independents and new conservatives that have done the same as you.....the REALITY is that ONLY libertarian lunkheads are deluded enough to think that they are somehow wholly independent of the benefits of our federal gov't. Like I said before, your insurance coverage DOES NOT cover the infrastructure repair of your town/city/state needed for all that nifty "comfort" you're so smug about. Think it through before you type next time, my empty skull libertarian.

They could afford insurance if it was a priority. I hear people like you whine all the time that they can't afford shit but then I look and notice they have a newer car than I do, a more expensive cell phone than I do, twice as many clothes in their closet as I do etc.

Wait, hold the phone......are you the same asshole that parroted this dumb line a year or so ago on the old AOL boards under another screen name? You were calling yourself a "new conservative" back then! I mean, jeez....haven't you been made the fool of enough with this prejudicial clap-trap of yours? So you're pissed because some people have more than you do? Grow the fuck up! Am I to take that you'd be well off save for all that alleged insurance you have, just waiting for a disaster while you sit in a crappy one room apartment wearing rags and eating dog food? And then you go out and take a census of everyone else to confirm your seething jealousy. Man, you skull-fucked yourself everytime you just keep expanding on these fanciful tales of yours. Pathetic!
And I have yet to find a public bar. Most bars I have ever frequented are privately owned.

It's an expression, you dimwit...it describes the FACT that most bars and taverns SERVE THE PUBLIC, and are NOT "private clubs". Damn Skull, you can't muster up enough for intelligent sarcasm!

I've lost power many times because the power utility around me sucks which is why I had a propane generator installed and buried a 500 gallon propane tank in my back yard

Goody for you! And if you EVER got off your dopey ass and did some REAL research (or paid attention to local/national news), you'd know that such generators become common in areas that are prone to such natural disasters like floods or flash fires for people who can afford them....and the sales of such are NOT indicative of political/social ideology. Then again, if YOU are REALLY a "survivalist" who's just taken on a more socially cool moniker, then I can partially understand the reasoning for your silly assertions/statements.

And I see the need to explain again that there is a difference between the federal government giving aid to a state government and individuals taking federal aid.

You can't even get your personal BS straight, bunky....so you're attempts to "explain" anything via spouting moot points is laughable at best. No matter how you try to spin it, Ron Paul's bullshit is DOCUMENTED, and it would get his flabby ass kicked in Dallas, TX...let alone laughed out of town given the recent HISTORY of REQUIRED AND REQUESTED federal aide to Texas and it's citizens. Deal with it.

You people don't seem to understand that if you take care of yourself you get better results than you would if you wait for the fucking government

More delusional rhetoric parroted by another willfully ignorant libertarian lunkhead. I noticed you avoided all the FACTS I previously presented that disproved your original assertions, and instead just burden us all with more of your supposition, conjecture and fabricated claptrap.

You're one sad Skull-fucked joke of a pilot, bunky. Carry on.
 
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What YOU don't get that is that for every person like you who can afford all that insurance, there are a many, many more who are JUST AS HARD WORKING AS YOU who can't. And many of those people do jobs that essentially provide the basis for the lifestyle that YOU have become comfortable and accustomed to. And PUH-LEEZE don't blow that bullhorn that all libertarian people are financially secure enough to be totally devoid of any gov't benefits or insurance.

Here's a little reality check regarding insurance companies and disaster claims:

AAJ Report Reveals


Texas has taken steps

Homeowners' Insurance Claims Denied?

I seem to recall when FEMA caught hell when it ceased assistance during the Texas wildfires last year...it was the TEXANS that were screaming for federal aid.


When you can PROVE your little assertion that ALL libertarian are just like YOU claim here, then maybe you have a point. If not, I'd stay out of Dallas if I were you.....and if you're there, don't brag. Also, I would dearly love to know how you're going to allegedly enjoy all those creature comforts your private insurance company provides at a PUBLIC bar whose private insurance may not cover his rebuilding, or if the PUBLIC power grid goes down and the STATE is overwhelmed until FEDERAL assistance BEYOND national guard comes to help.

I didn't say all libertarians are like me. I said a true libertarian is like me. Big difference

Oh spare us all the lame ass attempt by you to dodge the issue.....whenever libertarian lunkheads are caught flat footed WRONG about their dogma, they try to play games.

"True libertarians?" Are you so fucking deluded that you think a "true libertarian" is the ONLY person that's insured like you are? Newsflash, bunky....there are Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives, progressives, tea partiers, independents and new conservatives that have done the same as you.....the REALITY is that ONLY libertarian lunkheads are deluded enough to think that they are somehow wholly independent of the benefits of our federal gov't. Like I said before, your insurance coverage DOES NOT cover the infrastructure repair of your town/city/state needed for all that nifty "comfort" you're so smug about. Think it through before you type next time, my empty skull libertarian.

They could afford insurance if it was a priority. I hear people like you whine all the time that they can't afford shit but then I look and notice they have a newer car than I do, a more expensive cell phone than I do, twice as many clothes in their closet as I do etc.

Wait, hold the phone......are you the same asshole that parroted this dumb line a year or so ago on the old AOL boards under another screen name? You were calling yourself a "new conservative" back then! I mean, jeez....haven't you been made the fool of enough with this prejudicial clap-trap of yours? So you're pissed because some people have more than you do? Grow the fuck up! Am I to take that you'd be well off save for all that alleged insurance you have, just waiting for a disaster while you sit in a crappy one room apartment wearing rags and eating dog food? And then you go out and take a census of everyone else to confirm your seething jealousy. Man, you skull-fucked yourself everytime you just keep expanding on these fanciful tales of yours. Pathetic!
And I have yet to find a public bar. Most bars I have ever frequented are privately owned.

It's an expression, you dimwit...it describes the FACT that most bars and taverns SERVE THE PUBLIC, and are NOT "private clubs". Damn Skull, you can't muster up enough for intelligent sarcasm!

I've lost power many times because the power utility around me sucks which is why I had a propane generator installed and buried a 500 gallon propane tank in my back yard

Goody for you! And if you EVER got off your dopey ass and did some REAL research (or paid attention to local/national news), you'd know that such generators become common in areas that are prone to such natural disasters like floods or flash fires for people who can afford them....and the sales of such are NOT indicative of political/social ideology. Then again, if YOU are REALLY a "survivalist" who's just taken on a more socially cool moniker, then I can partially understand the reasoning for your silly assertions/statements.

And I see the need to explain again that there is a difference between the federal government giving aid to a state government and individuals taking federal aid.

You can't even get your personal BS straight, bunky....so you're attempts to "explain" anything via spouting moot points is laughable at best. No matter how you try to spin it, Ron Paul's bullshit is DOCUMENTED, and it would get his flabby ass kicked in Dallas, TX...let alone laughed out of town given the recent HISTORY of REQUIRED AND REQUESTED federal aide to Texas and it's citizens. Deal with it.

You people don't seem to understand that if you take care of yourself you get better results than you would if you wait for the fucking government

More delusional rhetoric parroted by another willfully ignorant libertarian lunkhead. I noticed you avoided all the FACTS I previously presented that disproved your original assertions, and instead just burden us all with more of your supposition, conjecture and fabricated claptrap.

You're one sad Skull-fucked joke of a pilot, bunky. Carry on.

Says the fucking moron who can't use the quote function correctly.
 
What a self aggrandizing load of nonsense I'm reading here.

We liberatariaisna are INDEPENDENT they write on the government invention called the internet.

We're not like you socialists who drive newer cars than us and live like grashoppers compared to to us productive ants.

Honestly kiddie, grow the frake up.

People aren't cartoon characters.
 
What YOU don't get that is that for every person like you who can afford all that insurance, there are a many, many more who are JUST AS HARD WORKING AS YOU who can't. And many of those people do jobs that essentially provide the basis for the lifestyle that YOU have become comfortable and accustomed to. And PUH-LEEZE don't blow that bullhorn that all libertarian people are financially secure enough to be totally devoid of any gov't benefits or insurance.

Here's a little reality check regarding insurance companies and disaster claims:

AAJ Report Reveals


Texas has taken steps

Homeowners' Insurance Claims Denied?

I seem to recall when FEMA caught hell when it ceased assistance during the Texas wildfires last year...it was the TEXANS that were screaming for federal aid.


When you can PROVE your little assertion that ALL libertarian are just like YOU claim here, then maybe you have a point. If not, I'd stay out of Dallas if I were you.....and if you're there, don't brag. Also, I would dearly love to know how you're going to allegedly enjoy all those creature comforts your private insurance company provides at a PUBLIC bar whose private insurance may not cover his rebuilding, or if the PUBLIC power grid goes down and the STATE is overwhelmed until FEDERAL assistance BEYOND national guard comes to help.

I didn't say all libertarians are like me. I said a true libertarian is like me. Big difference

Oh spare us all the lame ass attempt by you to dodge the issue.....whenever libertarian lunkheads are caught flat footed WRONG about their dogma, they try to play games.

There is no right or wrong here. The OP was an attempt to slam those who identify themselves as libertarian. If one who says he is libertarian and actually lives by his beliefs then he won't have to take government aid. So where you get right or wrong about that I don't know and it seems neither do you.

"True libertarians?" Are you so fucking deluded that you think a "true libertarian" is the ONLY person that's insured like you are? Newsflash, bunky....there are Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives, progressives, tea partiers, independents and new conservatives that have done the same as you.....the REALITY is that ONLY libertarian lunkheads are deluded enough to think that they are somehow wholly independent of the benefits of our federal gov't. Like I said before, your insurance coverage DOES NOT cover the infrastructure repair of your town/city/state needed for all that nifty "comfort" you're so smug about. Think it through before you type next time, my empty skull libertarian.

Where did I ever say that only libertarians have insurance? That's your own inadequacies that are making you defensive. And If you bothered to read what I said earlier you'd see that I said a state government getting federal aid in not the same as individual people getting aid. You might want to slow down when you read no one will make fun of you if you move lips either

Individuals are responsible for their own property. Government property is collectively owned and in a different category.

They could afford insurance if it was a priority. I hear people like you whine all the time that they can't afford shit but then I look and notice they have a newer car than I do, a more expensive cell phone than I do, twice as many clothes in their closet as I do etc.

Wait, hold the phone......are you the same asshole that parroted this dumb line a year or so ago on the old AOL boards under another screen name? You were calling yourself a "new conservative" back then! I mean, jeez....haven't you been made the fool of enough with this prejudicial clap-trap of yours? So you're pissed because some people have more than you do? Grow the fuck up! Am I to take that you'd be well off save for all that alleged insurance you have, just waiting for a disaster while you sit in a crappy one room apartment wearing rags and eating dog food? And then you go out and take a census of everyone else to confirm your seething jealousy. Man, you skull-fucked yourself everytime you just keep expanding on these fanciful tales of yours. Pathetic!

I have never been on an AOL board so once again you are assuming facts not in evidence. In fact this is the only board on which I post. I don't have time to surf multiple message boards.

And I'm not pissed at anyone in fact I know I make more than most people here. I just handle my money better. I own a business and have 12 employees. I know what they make and I know what I make. I hear them whine just like sheep like you do that they can't afford this or that but 4 out of the 12 bought brand new cars last year. I have never bought a new car and never will because it's a waste of money. I don't trade in my cell phone every 6 months when the next latest greatest gadget comes out.

My wife and I live on 5 acres in the country and are currently building a new house. And we're doing it without loans. I won't be saddled with debt like you are.

And I have yet to find a public bar. Most bars I have ever frequented are privately owned.

It's an expression, you dimwit...it describes the FACT that most bars and taverns SERVE THE PUBLIC, and are NOT "private clubs". Damn Skull, you can't muster up enough for intelligent sarcasm!

No it's you who don't know the difference between public and private property.

I've lost power many times because the power utility around me sucks which is why I had a propane generator installed and buried a 500 gallon propane tank in my back yard

Goody for you! And if you EVER got off your dopey ass and did some REAL research (or paid attention to local/national news), you'd know that such generators become common in areas that are prone to such natural disasters like floods or flash fires for people who can afford them....and the sales of such are NOT indicative of political/social ideology. Then again, if YOU are REALLY a "survivalist" who's just taken on a more socially cool moniker, then I can partially understand the reasoning for your silly assertions/statements.

Where did I say buying a generator was a political statement? And you'd be surprised how many people don't have generators around me. They are not common place in the least. Where did the term survivalist come into the conversation? If being financially savvy and protecting ones property and assets against disaster is being a survivalist then what do you call sheep like you who wait for other people to bail them out?

And I see the need to explain again that there is a difference between the federal government giving aid to a state government and individuals taking federal aid.

You can't even get your personal BS straight, bunky....so you're attempts to "explain" anything via spouting moot points is laughable at best. No matter how you try to spin it, Ron Paul's bullshit is DOCUMENTED, and it would get his flabby ass kicked in Dallas, TX...let alone laughed out of town given the recent HISTORY of REQUIRED AND REQUESTED federal aide to Texas and it's citizens. Deal with it.

Again who brought up a politician in this conversation. I never mentioned Ron Paul did I. Personal responsibility has nothing to do with politicians. So maybe you should start taking care of yourself and don't put too much faith in politicians.

You people don't seem to understand that if you take care of yourself you get better results than you would if you wait for the fucking government

More delusional rhetoric parroted by another willfully ignorant libertarian lunkhead. I noticed you avoided all the FACTS I previously presented that disproved your original assertions, and instead just burden us all with more of your supposition, conjecture and fabricated claptrap.

You're one sad Skull-fucked joke of a pilot, bunky. Carry on.

You haven't presented any facts. All you have done is assume.
 
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What a self aggrandizing load of nonsense I'm reading here.

We liberatariaisna are INDEPENDENT they write on the government invention called the internet.

We're not like you socialists who drive newer cars than us and live like grashoppers compared to to us productive ants.

Honestly kiddie, grow the frake up.

People aren't cartoon characters.

Piss off Ed.

I am only comparing people i know and deal with every day to myself. And if my comparison isn't valid then how come most people are in debt?

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I didn't say all libertarians are like me. I said a true libertarian is like me. Big difference

Oh spare us all the lame ass attempt by you to dodge the issue.....whenever libertarian lunkheads are caught flat footed WRONG about their dogma, they try to play games.

"True libertarians?" Are you so fucking deluded that you think a "true libertarian" is the ONLY person that's insured like you are? Newsflash, bunky....there are Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives, progressives, tea partiers, independents and new conservatives that have done the same as you.....the REALITY is that ONLY libertarian lunkheads are deluded enough to think that they are somehow wholly independent of the benefits of our federal gov't. Like I said before, your insurance coverage DOES NOT cover the infrastructure repair of your town/city/state needed for all that nifty "comfort" you're so smug about. Think it through before you type next time, my empty skull libertarian.

They could afford insurance if it was a priority. I hear people like you whine all the time that they can't afford shit but then I look and notice they have a newer car than I do, a more expensive cell phone than I do, twice as many clothes in their closet as I do etc.

Wait, hold the phone......are you the same asshole that parroted this dumb line a year or so ago on the old AOL boards under another screen name? You were calling yourself a "new conservative" back then! I mean, jeez....haven't you been made the fool of enough with this prejudicial clap-trap of yours? So you're pissed because some people have more than you do? Grow the fuck up! Am I to take that you'd be well off save for all that alleged insurance you have, just waiting for a disaster while you sit in a crappy one room apartment wearing rags and eating dog food? And then you go out and take a census of everyone else to confirm your seething jealousy. Man, you skull-fucked yourself everytime you just keep expanding on these fanciful tales of yours. Pathetic!
And I have yet to find a public bar. Most bars I have ever frequented are privately owned.

It's an expression, you dimwit...it describes the FACT that most bars and taverns SERVE THE PUBLIC, and are NOT "private clubs". Damn Skull, you can't muster up enough for intelligent sarcasm!

I've lost power many times because the power utility around me sucks which is why I had a propane generator installed and buried a 500 gallon propane tank in my back yard

Goody for you! And if you EVER got off your dopey ass and did some REAL research (or paid attention to local/national news), you'd know that such generators become common in areas that are prone to such natural disasters like floods or flash fires for people who can afford them....and the sales of such are NOT indicative of political/social ideology. Then again, if YOU are REALLY a "survivalist" who's just taken on a more socially cool moniker, then I can partially understand the reasoning for your silly assertions/statements.

And I see the need to explain again that there is a difference between the federal government giving aid to a state government and individuals taking federal aid.

You can't even get your personal BS straight, bunky....so you're attempts to "explain" anything via spouting moot points is laughable at best. No matter how you try to spin it, Ron Paul's bullshit is DOCUMENTED, and it would get his flabby ass kicked in Dallas, TX...let alone laughed out of town given the recent HISTORY of REQUIRED AND REQUESTED federal aide to Texas and it's citizens. Deal with it.

You people don't seem to understand that if you take care of yourself you get better results than you would if you wait for the fucking government

More delusional rhetoric parroted by another willfully ignorant libertarian lunkhead. I noticed you avoided all the FACTS I previously presented that disproved your original assertions, and instead just burden us all with more of your supposition, conjecture and fabricated claptrap.

You're one sad Skull-fucked joke of a pilot, bunky. Carry on.

Says the fucking moron who can't use the quote function correctly.

If I can read EVERYTHING that's posted, so can you, my intellectually bankrupt and dishonest Skull Pilot, so you're full of it as usual.

Bottom line: I took your BS to task and exposed it for the neocon/libertarian bullshit that it is.....one more skull fucked libertarian for the ideological trash heap! Now, repeat your empty rhetoric while avoiding the points I made whupping your sorry ass. Carry on.
 
I didn't say all libertarians are like me. I said a true libertarian is like me. Big difference

Oh spare us all the lame ass attempt by you to dodge the issue.....whenever libertarian lunkheads are caught flat footed WRONG about their dogma, they try to play games.

"True libertarians?" Are you so fucking deluded that you think a "true libertarian" is the ONLY person that's insured like you are? Newsflash, bunky....there are Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives, progressives, tea partiers, independents and new conservatives that have done the same as you.....the REALITY is that ONLY libertarian lunkheads are deluded enough to think that they are somehow wholly independent of the benefits of our federal gov't. Like I said before, your insurance coverage DOES NOT cover the infrastructure repair of your town/city/state needed for all that nifty "comfort" you're so smug about. Think it through before you type next time, my empty skull libertarian.

There is no right or wrong here. The OP was an attempt to slam those who identify themselves as libertarian. If one who says he is libertarian and actually lives by his beliefs then he won't have to take government aid. So where you get right or wrong about that I don't know and it seems neither do you.

I point out the FACTS, you libertarian bullshit artist! The FACT that your political bullhorn Ron Paul has been DOCUMENTED expousing a philosophy that is TOTALLY out of step with historical and current FACTS regarding federal aid in times of disaster. I linked to FACTS to support my statements. And as the chronology of the posts shows, it has been YOU who have done nothing but try to pass off your opinion, supposition and conjecture as a substitute for those facts I presented. I PROVED that YOU are full of shit, plain and simple. So your attempt to distort and "gray area" everything is nothing more than a piss in the wind.



Where did I ever say that only libertarians have insurance? That's your own inadequacies that are making you defensive. And If you bothered to read what I said earlier you'd see that I said a state government getting federal aid in not the same as individual people getting aid. You might want to slow down when you read no one will make fun of you if you move lips either

YOU stated that "true" libertarians do as you do when I merely pointed out what malarky your original statements were. Your other lame attempt to save your sorry ass by trying to separate federal aide to the states and individuals came later in the chronology ofthe posts...and THAT is a fucking joke because State aid goes to HELPING THE PEOPLE IN THAT STATE with infrastructure repair and restoration. Federal aid to individuals is IN ADDITION to that of the state, you idiot. So try as you might, your little delusion of independence from the federal gov't in times of disaster is just that...a delusion. Unless you can provide PROOF that your water, electricity, food quality, etc., are all wholly independent of State filtered federal regulation/assistance. If not, then you're just blowing smoke as usual.

They could afford insurance if it was a priority. I hear people like you whine all the time that they can't afford shit but then I look and notice they have a newer car than I do, a more expensive cell phone than I do, twice as many clothes in their closet as I do etc.


Which doesn't change the FACTS that Ron Paul is ass backwards wrong regarding federal aide to the States in times of disaster, as my links clearly proved regarding Texas. WTF is your problem, Skull? Do you think stating all these moot points will somehow erase the other historically documented FACTS that blows your Spartan-esque wet dream out the window? Grow up!


I have never been on an AOL board so once again you are assuming facts not in evidence. In fact this is the only board on which I post. I don't have time to surf multiple message boards.

You're a liar, because you sure as hell put in a LOT of time surfing to get to this particular board. And your writing style and EXACT copy of your prejudiced rants about other people's possessions and purchasing habits means that either you are the same person under a different screen name or that all you libertarian lunkheads/neocons don't have an original thought between you.

And I'm not pissed at anyone in fact I know I make more than most people here. I just handle my money better. I own a business and have 12 employees. I know what they make and I know what I make. I hear them whine just like sheep like you do that they can't afford this or that but 4 out of the 12 bought brand new cars last year. I have never bought a new car and never will because it's a waste of money. I don't trade in my cell phone every 6 months when the next latest greatest gadget comes out.

Yep, that's the EXACT same fabricated bullshit you used a few years back. You keep claiming you know EXACTLY what your neighbors make and how they spend their money....HOW you know this you NEVER explain to the reader. Now if you're bitching about your employees alone, then you've hired 12 of the stupidest people on earth, who would ALL be broke within a year if what you say were true (unless you are paying them WAY, WAY above the standard scale while offering health benefits above and beyond the state requirements)...and 12 people are NOT indicative of an entire state, let alone an entire country.

No one begrudges you your business earnings, and quite frankly no one cares. What people WON'T allow is bitter assholes like you with some sort of axe to grind to prevent them from gov't assistence in times of crisis. Fuck you, buddy. You work your side of the street, and everyone else will work theirs. And since YOU use the commons like everyone else regardless of economic status, that federal aid is going to help YOU continue your business, plain and simple. Deal with it.


My wife and I live on 5 acres in the country and are currently building a new house. And we're doing it without loans. I won't be saddled with debt like you are.

Man, this fairy tale of yours just keeps growing and growing like a survivalist's wet dream. So you run a business with only 12 employees that is so amazingly successful that you can afford all types of amazing insurance (health and financial) and build an additional a country house on 5 acres wholly out of pocket. In short, you're an upper middle class (rich?) guy WHO USES THE COMMONS JUST LIKE YOUR EMPLOYEES, AND THEREFORE BENEFITS IN TIMES OF DISASTER FROM FEDERAL ASSISTANCE TO YOUR STATE. You're business isn't worth a damn if the COMMONS infrastructure is down, genius....and if your city, state doesn't have the scratch to fix it, that's when the feds come in. Back to square one....like Ron Paul, you're full of shit...unless you have your own meat and water and product inspection service.


No it's you who don't know the difference between public and private property.

Your sour grapes mean NOTHING, my skull fucked friend. The chronology of the post clearly demonstrates who can back up what they say with links to documented facts, and who is just blowing smoke out his libertarian lame ass.


Where did I say buying a generator was a political statement? And you'd be surprised how many people don't have generators around me. They are not common place in the least. Where did the term survivalist come into the conversation? If being financially savvy and protecting ones property and assets against disaster is being a survivalist then what do you call sheep like you who wait for other people to bail them out?

Why do you keep accusing me of saying things when the chronology of the post clearly shows I did not. Are you fucking stupid, incapable of comprehending what you read or just a liar? YOU bragged about having a generator following your "true libertarian" assertion..alluding to that your political/social philosophy enables you alone with the forsight to have such. I just pointed out that is not the case...and I'm sure YOU would be surprised as to how many people outside your limited scope do have a generator! But since we're not discussing documented fact, but rather your sheer personal speculation, that's a pointless conversation. I also merely pointed out that your BS is very much akin to the "survivalist" philosophy of the 1980's......which is hysterical given that THOSE assholes are for the most part now in their 60's and either taken part in federal programs like Social Security and Medicare/medicaid...because the stock market in the last 25 years REALLY fucked up a lot of small investors.



Again who brought up a politician in this conversation. I never mentioned Ron Paul did I. Personal responsibility has nothing to do with politicians. So maybe you should start taking care of yourself and don't put too much faith in politicians.

Maybe you should stop braying like an ass, my skull fucked friend. I started this thread to point out how WRONG Ron Paul is on this matter regarding Dallas, TX. YOU and like minded libertarian toadies jumped in to defend that philosophy....and were proven flat out WRONG with VERIFIED, DOCUMENTED FACT! Now you're pissed because you can't deny those facts without looking the fool, so you just stamp your widdle feet about "personal responsibility" while desperately trying to ignore the FACT that YOU use and DEPEND on the COMMONS just like the people you have such contempt for.

You people don't seem to understand that if you take care of yourself you get better results than you would if you wait for the fucking government

More delusional rhetoric parroted by another willfully ignorant libertarian lunkhead. I noticed you avoided all the FACTS I previously presented that disproved your original assertions, and instead just burden us all with more of your supposition, conjecture and fabricated claptrap.

You're one sad Skull-fucked joke of a pilot, bunky. Carry on.

You haven't presented any facts. All you have done is assume.

And as with all Libertarians, you LIE when you can't BS your way past someone in a debate. The chronology of the posts on this thread shows the links I provided to document what I've put forth. To date, all YOU'VE done is just spin some undocumented tales along with opinion, supposition and conjecture. Here's the previous exchange in it's entirety for those interested in an accurate, objective reading of the conversation thus far:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/5082489-post46.html

You're pathtic, Skull Pilot. I wonder how your 12 employees would feel if they knew you consider them nothing more than "sheep"?
 
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Ooooo...Another socialist dickweed declaring victory for himself!

Here's your trophy, asswipe.

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Seems whenever this Oddball is humiliated in an open discussion, he regresses to a grade school kid.

The chronology of the posts shows Oddball to be just another libertarian stooge incapable of rational thought and intellectual honesty beyond a limited point. So there is no further point in engaging him or acknowledging his rhetoric.


Good luck in Dallas, TX my Odd little man! :lol:
 
What a self aggrandizing load of nonsense I'm reading here.

We liberatariaisna are INDEPENDENT they write on the government invention called the internet.

We're not like you socialists who drive newer cars than us and live like grashoppers compared to to us productive ants.

Honestly kiddie, grow the frake up.

People aren't cartoon characters.

Piss off Ed.

I am only comparing people i know and deal with every day to myself. And if my comparison isn't valid then how come most people are in debt?

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Of course you leave out little things like the S&L scandal, Enron, the mortgage bank scandal, Wall St. deregulation abuses, outsourcing, 30 years of failed reaganomics......just a few things that SCREWED hard working middle class people who saved their money, invested, and BELIEVED in the system.

You're such a fucking 1% tool, my skull fucked friend. But good luck in Dallas, TX telling people who's home and neighborhood was WIPED OUT in a tornado or flood or wildfire that it's their fault for not being financially well off and that they should NOT put in for FEMA relief or have their state take any such aide. I'll send flowers to your widow. :D
 
More delusional rhetoric parroted by another willfully ignorant libertarian lunkhead. I noticed you avoided all the FACTS I previously presented that disproved your original assertions, and instead just burden us all with more of your supposition, conjecture and fabricated claptrap.

You're one sad Skull-fucked joke of a pilot, bunky. Carry on.

Says the fucking moron who can't use the quote function correctly.

If I can read EVERYTHING that's posted, so can you, my intellectually bankrupt and dishonest Skull Pilot, so you're full of it as usual.

Bottom line: I took your BS to task and exposed it for the neocon/libertarian bullshit that it is.....one more skull fucked libertarian for the ideological trash heap! Now, repeat your empty rhetoric while avoiding the points I made whupping your sorry ass. Carry on.

You assumed positions I never took.

You are a fucking hack with a 2 dimensional view of the world just like the rest of the sheep.
 
What a self aggrandizing load of nonsense I'm reading here.

We liberatariaisna are INDEPENDENT they write on the government invention called the internet.

We're not like you socialists who drive newer cars than us and live like grashoppers compared to to us productive ants.

Honestly kiddie, grow the frake up.

People aren't cartoon characters.

Piss off Ed.

I am only comparing people i know and deal with every day to myself. And if my comparison isn't valid then how come most people are in debt?

lY2Cr.jpg
smallavfamily.JPG


Of course you leave out little things like the S&L scandal, Enron, the mortgage bank scandal, Wall St. deregulation abuses, outsourcing, 30 years of failed reaganomics......just a few things that SCREWED hard working middle class people who saved their money, invested, and BELIEVED in the system.

So enron is the reason that people don't save for retirement?

And was it the mortgage scandal as you call it that hurt people or the fact that those people were refinancing their homes multiple times as the value went up or taking out mortgages on an ARM where they could barely afford the low end?

I have never defended Reagan in fact I have stated many times that Reagan was just another big government dupe pretending to believe in small government to fool the sheep.

You're such a fucking 1% tool, my skull fucked friend. But good luck in Dallas, TX telling people who's home and neighborhood was WIPED OUT in a tornado or flood or wildfire that it's their fault for not being financially well off and that they should NOT put in for FEMA relief or have their state take any such aide. I'll send flowers to your widow. :D

And here you go again I never said it was someone's fault if their home got destroyed did I? I said that they should be prepared for such things. And you don't have to be financially well off to be prepared you just have to prioritize and sacrifice two things that sheep like you don't do very well.
 
You really get a glimpse inside the hearts and minds of a liberal in this thread..

not a pretty thing

and all over WHAT?
 

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