Libertarians to the Rescue?

[taichiliberal]

I sure would like to see Ron Paul go to Dallas, TX tomorrow and tell those tornado victims:

"Don't take any federal money! Your churches and neighboring cities will help you out!"

I bet you that'll be the first time in his political career that Paul wished for a better gun control law!

 

[Paulie]

You don't think those neighboring towns and churches are going to help out at all? You've got a really grim view of your fellow man.

Where have you been living all your life while the rest of this country has repeatedly pulled together during times of crises from the local level to the national level, to help fellow citizens out?

After 9/11, people pulled together and raised BILLIONS.

 

[Oddball]

You don't think those neighboring towns and churches are going to help out at all? You've got a really grim view of your fellow man.

Where have you been living all your life while the rest of this country has repeatedly pulled together during times of crises from the local level to the national level, to help fellow citizens out?

After 9/11, people pulled together and raised BILLIONS.

Except, of course, when that fellow man happens to be a socialist politician or bureaucrat....Then they're all complete angels.

 

[taichiliberal]

You don't think those neighboring towns and churches are going to help out at all? You've got a really grim view of your fellow man.

Where have you been living all your life while the rest of this country has repeatedly pulled together during times of crises from the local level to the national level, to help fellow citizens out?

After 9/11, people pulled together and raised BILLIONS.

Nice try at distortion, Paulie, but you fail miserably.

Did I say ANYTHING to allude to my being against towns and chruches helping out?

Nope!

Are YOU stating that 9/11 assistance was WITHOUT federal assistance on all levels? Billions? I'd like to see that documentation.

Sorry to burst your libertarian bubble, but given the various bad season hurricanes, tornados, droughts, floods, etc., etc.... only a delusional fool would think that there is no need for federal assistance. Like I said, go tell it to the Texans in Dallas.

 

[uscitizen]

Who is paying for the 911 reconstruction?

I really do not know.

 

[uscitizen]

the Guv of ohio started to decline federal tornado aid money . That lasted less than a day.

 

[taichiliberal]

You don't think those neighboring towns and churches are going to help out at all? You've got a really grim view of your fellow man.

Where have you been living all your life while the rest of this country has repeatedly pulled together during times of crises from the local level to the national level, to help fellow citizens out?

After 9/11, people pulled together and raised BILLIONS.

Except, of course, when that fellow man happens to be a socialist politician or bureaucrat....Then they're all complete angels.

Here's what I told your buddy Paulie:

Nice try at distortion, Paulie, but you fail miserably.

Did I say ANYTHING to allude to my being against towns and chruches helping out?

Nope!

Are YOU stating that 9/11 assistance was WITHOUT federal assistance on all levels? Billions? I'd like to see that documentation.

Sorry to burst your libertarian bubble, but given the various bad season hurricanes, tornados, droughts, floods, etc., etc.... only a delusional fool would think that there is no need for federal assistance. Like I said, go tell it to the Texans in Dallas.

And PLEASE get a near by adult to explain what socialism is to you, my Odd little man....because the idea of sharing community resources across city & state lines in the same country is a socialist ideal....about time you libertarian lunkheads got that.

But do please go to Dallas, TX and try and sell them Ron Paul's idealism....I suggest you do that from a fast moving truck.

 

[taichiliberal]

Who is paying for the 911 reconstruction?

I really do not know.

Paulit thinks it's entirely from donations and charities....man, I'd like to know what he's drinking!

 

[rightwinger]

Who is paying for the 911 reconstruction?

I really do not know.

I think it is the New York Port Authority and private owners

 

[uscitizen]

Who is paying for the 911 reconstruction?

I really do not know.

I think it is the New York Port Authority and private owners

Yep I think you are correct I just did some googling.

So the government is doing it?
Liberty bond sales were mentioned as were insurance settlements.

 

[Si modo]

You don't think those neighboring towns and churches are going to help out at all? You've got a really grim view of your fellow man.

Where have you been living all your life while the rest of this country has repeatedly pulled together during times of crises from the local level to the national level, to help fellow citizens out?

After 9/11, people pulled together and raised BILLIONS.

Except, of course, when that fellow man happens to be a socialist politician or bureaucrat....Then they're all complete angels.

Here's what I told your buddy Paulie:

Nice try at distortion, Paulie, but you fail miserably.

Did I say ANYTHING to allude to my being against towns and chruches helping out?

Nope!

Are YOU stating that 9/11 assistance was WITHOUT federal assistance on all levels? Billions? I'd like to see that documentation.

Sorry to burst your libertarian bubble, but given the various bad season hurricanes, tornados, droughts, floods, etc., etc.... only a delusional fool would think that there is no need for federal assistance. Like I said, go tell it to the Texans in Dallas.

And PLEASE get a near by adult to explain what socialism is to you, my Odd little man....because the idea of sharing community resources across city & state lines in the same country is a socialist ideal....about time you libertarian lunkheads got that.

But do please go to Dallas, TX and try and sell them Ron Paul's idealism....I suggest you do that from a fast moving truck.

And a libertarian ideal is to have the freedom to choose how one's earned money is spent.

The money will be spent, too. The government can do it inefficiently, or the community can do it efficiently.

I know which makes more sense.

 

[Crackerjack]

"Don't take any federal money! Your churches and neighboring cities will help you out!"

That's a gross distortion of his position on the issue, but don't let that get in the way of your guffawing.

 

[Oddball]

You don't think those neighboring towns and churches are going to help out at all? You've got a really grim view of your fellow man.

Where have you been living all your life while the rest of this country has repeatedly pulled together during times of crises from the local level to the national level, to help fellow citizens out?

After 9/11, people pulled together and raised BILLIONS.

Except, of course, when that fellow man happens to be a socialist politician or bureaucrat....Then they're all complete angels.

Here's what I told your buddy Paulie:

Nice try at distortion, Paulie, but you fail miserably.

Did I say ANYTHING to allude to my being against towns and chruches helping out?

Nope!

Are YOU stating that 9/11 assistance was WITHOUT federal assistance on all levels? Billions? I'd like to see that documentation.

Sorry to burst your libertarian bubble, but given the various bad season hurricanes, tornados, droughts, floods, etc., etc.... only a delusional fool would think that there is no need for federal assistance. Like I said, go tell it to the Texans in Dallas.

And PLEASE get a near by adult to explain what socialism is to you, my Odd little man....because the idea of sharing community resources across city & state lines in the same country is a socialist ideal....about time you libertarian lunkheads got that.

But do please go to Dallas, TX and try and sell them Ron Paul's idealism....I suggest you do that from a fast moving truck.

Piss off, boy.

Try having an adult explain to you what distortion, deletion, generalization, non sequitur, post hoc ergo propter hoc, false equivalence and other fallacious "logic" (for lack of a better term) that socialist windbags like you employ.

 

[taichiliberal]

Except, of course, when that fellow man happens to be a socialist politician or bureaucrat....Then they're all complete angels.

Here's what I told your buddy Paulie:

Nice try at distortion, Paulie, but you fail miserably.

Did I say ANYTHING to allude to my being against towns and chruches helping out?

Nope!

Are YOU stating that 9/11 assistance was WITHOUT federal assistance on all levels? Billions? I'd like to see that documentation.

Sorry to burst your libertarian bubble, but given the various bad season hurricanes, tornados, droughts, floods, etc., etc.... only a delusional fool would think that there is no need for federal assistance. Like I said, go tell it to the Texans in Dallas.

And PLEASE get a near by adult to explain what socialism is to you, my Odd little man....because the idea of sharing community resources across city & state lines in the same country is a socialist ideal....about time you libertarian lunkheads got that.

But do please go to Dallas, TX and try and sell them Ron Paul's idealism....I suggest you do that from a fast moving truck.

And a libertarian ideal is to have the freedom to choose how one's earned money is spent.

No shit sherlock....that's pretty much one of the corner stones of this country....it's this insane libertarian fantasy that one can exist at the level of security and comfort WITHOUT federal assistance/oversight in any way, shape or form that's a blatant farce which made up Ron Paul's recent public foray.

The money will be spent, too. The government can do it inefficiently, or the community can do it efficiently.

Really? And exactly how much money do you think Dallas, TX can cover? How much can be donated from individuals/charity groups from other states? and for how long? Like it or not, bunky....HISTORY has proven that federal gov't assistance (albeit not perfect by any means) has been able to provide resourses that greatly supplement or surpass local capabilities during a natural disaster....when under proper management (i.e., no more Shrub or "Brownie".)

I know which makes more sense.

Based on your slogan laden, logic lacking rift here, I find your "sense" dubious at best.

 

[Si modo]

Here's what I told your buddy Paulie:

Nice try at distortion, Paulie, but you fail miserably.

Did I say ANYTHING to allude to my being against towns and chruches helping out?

Nope!

Are YOU stating that 9/11 assistance was WITHOUT federal assistance on all levels? Billions? I'd like to see that documentation.

Sorry to burst your libertarian bubble, but given the various bad season hurricanes, tornados, droughts, floods, etc., etc.... only a delusional fool would think that there is no need for federal assistance. Like I said, go tell it to the Texans in Dallas.

And PLEASE get a near by adult to explain what socialism is to you, my Odd little man....because the idea of sharing community resources across city & state lines in the same country is a socialist ideal....about time you libertarian lunkheads got that.

But do please go to Dallas, TX and try and sell them Ron Paul's idealism....I suggest you do that from a fast moving truck.

And a libertarian ideal is to have the freedom to choose how one's earned money is spent.

No shit sherlock....that's pretty much one of the corner stones of this country....it's this insane libertarian fantasy that one can exist at the level of security and comfort WITHOUT federal assistance/oversight in any way, shape or form that's a blatant farce which made up Ron Paul's recent public foray.

The money will be spent, too. The government can do it inefficiently, or the community can do it efficiently.

Really? And exactly how much money do you think Dallas, TX can cover? How much can be donated from individuals/charity groups from other states? and for how long? Like it or not, bunky....HISTORY has proven that federal gov't assistance (albeit not perfect by any means) has been able to provide resourses that greatly supplement or surpass local capabilities during a natural disaster....when under proper management (i.e., no more Shrub or "Brownie".)

I know which makes more sense.

Based on your slogan laden, logic lacking rift here, I find your "sense" dubious at best.

Well, I was addressing your comment about community across municipal lines and state lines (my bolding that part of your post should have been a clue). So, it's not just the money folks in Dallas have, now is it? As, we are talking about community that extends past municipal and state lines - YOUR words that I bolded.

 

[taichiliberal]

Except, of course, when that fellow man happens to be a socialist politician or bureaucrat....Then they're all complete angels.

Here's what I told your buddy Paulie:

Nice try at distortion, Paulie, but you fail miserably.

Did I say ANYTHING to allude to my being against towns and chruches helping out?

Nope!

Are YOU stating that 9/11 assistance was WITHOUT federal assistance on all levels? Billions? I'd like to see that documentation.

Sorry to burst your libertarian bubble, but given the various bad season hurricanes, tornados, droughts, floods, etc., etc.... only a delusional fool would think that there is no need for federal assistance. Like I said, go tell it to the Texans in Dallas.

And PLEASE get a near by adult to explain what socialism is to you, my Odd little man....because the idea of sharing community resources across city & state lines in the same country is a socialist ideal....about time you libertarian lunkheads got that.

But do please go to Dallas, TX and try and sell them Ron Paul's idealism....I suggest you do that from a fast moving truck.

Piss off, boy.

Try having an adult explain to you what distortion, deletion, generalization, non sequitur, post hoc ergo propter hoc, false equivalence and other fallacious "logic" (for lack of a better term) that socialist windbags like you employ.

Awww, what's the matter my Odd little man? Did I make such a fool of you that you just stamp your widdle feet and babble nonsense?

You don't have the brains, stones or honesty to answer my previous post point for point...that's the problem with you Libertarian lunkheads...taken to task, your rhetoric just doesn't bear up under scrutiny, and you try to bluff and dodge as you do here.

Like I said, go tell the tornado victims of Dallas, TX folk to REJECT all federal assistance.....and see if they don't kick your sorry ass back to where you came from. Carry on.

 

[taichiliberal]

"Don't take any federal money! Your churches and neighboring cities will help you out!"

That's a gross distortion of his position on the issue, but don't let that get in the way of your guffawing.

Maybe you need to get your head out of Paul's wrinkled ass and stop drinking his Kool-Aid.

Here's a guy who puts it all into perspective better than I can:

Ron Paul: Get Rid of FEMA and the National Flood Insurance Program - Blogcritics Politics

And then there's this little gem:

Ron Paul Thinks Hurricane Aid Is Wasteful, Touts Return To 1900 | Crooks and Liars

 

[Oddball]

Here's what I told your buddy Paulie:

Nice try at distortion, Paulie, but you fail miserably.

Did I say ANYTHING to allude to my being against towns and chruches helping out?

Nope!

Are YOU stating that 9/11 assistance was WITHOUT federal assistance on all levels? Billions? I'd like to see that documentation.

Sorry to burst your libertarian bubble, but given the various bad season hurricanes, tornados, droughts, floods, etc., etc.... only a delusional fool would think that there is no need for federal assistance. Like I said, go tell it to the Texans in Dallas.

And PLEASE get a near by adult to explain what socialism is to you, my Odd little man....because the idea of sharing community resources across city & state lines in the same country is a socialist ideal....about time you libertarian lunkheads got that.

But do please go to Dallas, TX and try and sell them Ron Paul's idealism....I suggest you do that from a fast moving truck.

Piss off, boy.

Try having an adult explain to you what distortion, deletion, generalization, non sequitur, post hoc ergo propter hoc, false equivalence and other fallacious "logic" (for lack of a better term) that socialist windbags like you employ.

Awww, what's the matter my Odd little man? Did I make such a fool of you that you just stamp your widdle feet and babble nonsense?

You don't have the brains, stones or honesty to answer my previous post point for point...that's the problem with you Libertarian lunkheads...taken to task, your rhetoric just doesn't bear up under scrutiny, and you try to bluff and dodge as you do here.

Like I said, go tell the tornado victims of Dallas, TX folk to REJECT all federal assistance.....and see if they don't kick your sorry ass back to where you came from. Carry on.

When have the fine citizens of Texas been left exempt from federal tax looting, so that they may be free of the presumption that far away bureaucrats will know best how to get them through their natural disasters?

You may now crawl back under your rock, boy.

 

[taichiliberal]

And a libertarian ideal is to have the freedom to choose how one's earned money is spent.

No shit sherlock....that's pretty much one of the corner stones of this country....it's this insane libertarian fantasy that one can exist at the level of security and comfort WITHOUT federal assistance/oversight in any way, shape or form that's a blatant farce which made up Ron Paul's recent public foray.

The money will be spent, too. The government can do it inefficiently, or the community can do it efficiently.

Really? And exactly how much money do you think Dallas, TX can cover? How much can be donated from individuals/charity groups from other states? and for how long? Like it or not, bunky....HISTORY has proven that federal gov't assistance (albeit not perfect by any means) has been able to provide resourses that greatly supplement or surpass local capabilities during a natural disaster....when under proper management (i.e., no more Shrub or "Brownie".)

I know which makes more sense.

Based on your slogan laden, logic lacking rift here, I find your "sense" dubious at best.

Well, I was addressing your comment about community across municipal lines and state lines (my bolding that part of your post should have been a clue). So, it's not just the money folks in Dallas have, now is it? As, we are talking about community that extends past municipal and state lines - YOUR words that I bolded.

And how does this additional babbling alter the validity of what I stated one iota, chuckles? Let me dumb it down for you: given the bad weather that has literally terrorized that region of the country in the last year from droughts to tornados to floods, it's seriously in doubt whether the state of Texas, let alone it's neighboring states can muster and sustain for the long term the financial resources necessary to rebuild and support the areas that are (again) afflicted. That's what Fema is for...and that's what an idealogue like Paul is against. But hey, don't take my word for it:

Ron Paul Thinks Hurricane Aid Is Wasteful, Touts Return To 1900 | Crooks and Liars

It would be interesting to see what happens when folk are told, "well, sorry but that's all the charities, the State and your neighbors can do to help...guess you're out in the street and on your own...but on a good note, you'll be destitute knowing that you never got any of that evil federal gov't assistance!"

 

[taichiliberal]

Piss off, boy.

Try having an adult explain to you what distortion, deletion, generalization, non sequitur, post hoc ergo propter hoc, false equivalence and other fallacious "logic" (for lack of a better term) that socialist windbags like you employ.

Awww, what's the matter my Odd little man? Did I make such a fool of you that you just stamp your widdle feet and babble nonsense?

You don't have the brains, stones or honesty to answer my previous post point for point...that's the problem with you Libertarian lunkheads...taken to task, your rhetoric just doesn't bear up under scrutiny, and you try to bluff and dodge as you do here.

Like I said, go tell the tornado victims of Dallas, TX folk to REJECT all federal assistance.....and see if they don't kick your sorry ass back to where you came from. Carry on.

When have the fine citizens of Texas been left exempt from federal tax looting, so that they may be free of the presumption that far away bureaucrats will know best how to get them through their natural disasters?

You may now crawl back under your rock, boy.

I'm talking "A", and this Odd little man is talking "- 12".

See folks, insipidly stubborn parrots like Oddball just IGNORE what they don't like and keep repeating their mantras in various forms. Bottom line: the reality that Dallas, TX is going to NEED federal assistance for relief from the tornados just really burns the asses of libertarian lunkheads who know full well that Texas is unable to handle the financial burden alone after a YEAR of disasterous heat waves, droughts, floods and now tornados. So the libertarian lunkheads just go into denial...or create some sort of fantasy land, just like Ron Paul:

Ron Paul Thinks Hurricane Aid Is Wasteful, Touts Return To 1900 | Crooks and Liars

Like I said, I would love to see Oddball go to Dallas and tell someone who lost EVERYTHING that they won't get a dime of federal assistance....from what I hear Texans are a touchy lot when they realized they're getting sandbagged.