Liberals Win Again!

[The Irish Ram]

The more you liberals win, the less freedom America has. First ours, then yours.

Society places limits on "freedom", for the good of us all. Sorry, but not really.

Government places restrictions, not society. What law did you write? The government is using you, not defending you. Hands up is a perfect example. Incite, then control.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The more you liberals win, the less freedom America has. First ours, then yours.

Society places limits on "freedom", for the good of us all. Sorry, but not really.

Government places restrictions, not society. What law did you write? The government is using you, not protecting you. Hands up is a perfect example. Incite, then control.

Society owns the government. They are the toolbox, we are the hands.

 

[The Irish Ram]

That's a joke. Hands up, hammer down. You're a puppet. Has Harry Reid taught you nothing?
Incite, then control. Lie and manipulate....

 

[B. Kidd]

The more you liberals win, the less freedom America has. First ours, then yours.

Society places limits on "freedom", for the good of us all. Sorry, but not really.

Government places restrictions, not society. What law did you write? The government is using you, not protecting you. Hands up is a perfect example. Incite, then control.

Society owns the government. They are the toolbox, we are the hands.

Spoken like a true muppet! (a big-Gov't one, that is....)

 

[Stephanie]

Ultra-Conservative Senator/Governor Mike Pence has changed his position.

Southern Conservative Senator/Governor Asa Huchinson is calling for a re-write before he signs it, making clear there will be no discrimination, and pointing out that the Federal law will be his guidepost, not a 'States Rights' position.

Liberals win again.

Well, pack yer' ass with gerbils, and jump for joy!

another expert on gerbil packing speaks.

This countrys' preoccupation with all things gay is another sign of our un-exceptionalism when we are actually facing a multitude of significant pressing problems that take a back seat to the whims of what amounts to 4% of our population.

The phenomenon of gay acceptance is sweeping the entire Western World. It isn't just happening in America. Don't you have any knowledge of reality outside your own backyard?

BBC News - Gay marriage around the world

oh ok, since BBC says it surly it must be the truth. Funny they didn't poll China, Iran, and other parts of the middle east it seems. BBC pfeeesh

I can say watching all this garbage over some "state law". has probably turned off more PEOPLE for homosexuals...nobodies Fault but their own

 

[rightwinger]

In what way?

When they are Forced to bake cakes or cater at gay weddings.
This is against the 1st amendment and prohibits them from their free exercise.
It does not prohibit any gay couples to go to another business that will do it for them nor does it stop any other sale products from those businesses selling to gays.
Both groups have their rights and gay rights are not being violated when they have plenty of businesses to choose from.
Gays are not being banned from the businesses that would be a violation of their rights.
Forcing religious businesses owners to go against their religious views is a violation of their rights.

But it does violate the rights of others

Nobody is forcing religious beliefs or establishing a religion. You have a freedom of religion guaranteed in the first amendment, but you don't have the right to use your religion to violate the equal rights of others

They are not violating their rights, now if there was a sign in the window that said no gays allowed that would be a violation of their rights.
To some Religious people marriage is a contract between a couple and God.
Thus the words till death do us part, because there is no marriage in heaven.
The marriage between two men or two women is not just a sin it's an abomination in Gods eyes. This is their right to their religious beliefs based on the Bible.

Nobody is asking them to marry them. You own a business and must not discriminate. Nobody is asking you to condone a marriage

If the bride is pregnant, should your business provide a cake? Isn't that an abomination?

NO it is sin to have the kid out of wedlock.
They are being forced to bake the cakes by the court.
Judge Orders Colorado Cake Maker To Serve Gay Couples CBS Denver

Both sides have their rights not just one and they should not be forced to bake a wedding cake through the courts.
Just like businesses have signs that say no shirt, no shoes no service.
Why does that not violate shirtless, shoe less peoples rights?

Because shoes and shirts are required by the local health code

Also, the signs do not say that gays are required to wear shirts and shoes while everyone else can wear what they want

 

[mudwhistle]

Ultra-Conservative Senator/Governor Mike Pence has changed his position.

Southern Conservative Senator/Governor Asa Huchinson is calling for a re-write before he signs it, making clear there will be no discrimination, and pointing out that the Federal law will be his guidepost, not a 'States Rights' position.

Liberals win again.

Ultra-Conservative Senator/Governor Mike Pence has changed his position.

Southern Conservative Senator/Governor Asa Huchinson is calling for a re-write before he signs it, making clear there will be no discrimination, and pointing out that the Federal law will be his guidepost, not a 'States Rights' position.

Liberals win again.

Liar.

Obama changed his position. Pence called for clarification.

 

[mudwhistle]

It's another indication that the United States Of America is getting more Progressive every day. People are starting to wake up and discard stifling Conservative dogma and are embracing real freedom - the freedom to live your life without discrimination or being treated less in the Government's eyes and laws.

Liberals win again.

Liar. The people are staying out of it....but they are taking notes.....and will vote accordingly in 2016.

 

[Stephanie]

It's another indication that the United States Of America is getting more Progressive every day. People are starting to wake up and discard stifling Conservative dogma and are embracing real freedom - the freedom to live your life without discrimination or being treated less in the Government's eyes and laws.

Liberals win again.

Liar. The people are staying out of it....but they are taking notes.....and will vote accordingly in 2016.

Poor liberals. they just lost their asses in the last elections. but they still REFUSE to accept it was because of their ugly progressive BS, policies and Obama

realty is hard to swallow for some of these people..one can only shake their heads and laugh at a post like his...

 

[peach174]

When they are Forced to bake cakes or cater at gay weddings.
This is against the 1st amendment and prohibits them from their free exercise.
It does not prohibit any gay couples to go to another business that will do it for them nor does it stop any other sale products from those businesses selling to gays.
Both groups have their rights and gay rights are not being violated when they have plenty of businesses to choose from.
Gays are not being banned from the businesses that would be a violation of their rights.
Forcing religious businesses owners to go against their religious views is a violation of their rights.

But it does violate the rights of others

Nobody is forcing religious beliefs or establishing a religion. You have a freedom of religion guaranteed in the first amendment, but you don't have the right to use your religion to violate the equal rights of others

They are not violating their rights, now if there was a sign in the window that said no gays allowed that would be a violation of their rights.
To some Religious people marriage is a contract between a couple and God.
Thus the words till death do us part, because there is no marriage in heaven.
The marriage between two men or two women is not just a sin it's an abomination in Gods eyes. This is their right to their religious beliefs based on the Bible.

Nobody is asking them to marry them. You own a business and must not discriminate. Nobody is asking you to condone a marriage

If the bride is pregnant, should your business provide a cake? Isn't that an abomination?

NO it is sin to have the kid out of wedlock.
They are being forced to bake the cakes by the court.
Judge Orders Colorado Cake Maker To Serve Gay Couples CBS Denver

Both sides have their rights not just one and they should not be forced to bake a wedding cake through the courts.
Just like businesses have signs that say no shirt, no shoes no service.
Why does that not violate shirtless, shoe less peoples rights?

Because shoes and shirts are required by the local health code

Also, the signs do not say that gays are required to wear shirts and shoes while everyone else can wear what they want

There is no signs in theses businesses saying no gays shall be served either.
How is it a health hazard if one person has no shoes and everybody else does?
Having no shirt is not a health issue at all.

 

[rightwinger]

Liberals won on Civil Rights
Liberals won on environmental protection
Liberals won on Womens rights
Liberals won on Gay rights

Do Conservatives ever tire of being wrong?

 

[rightwinger]

But it does violate the rights of others

Nobody is forcing religious beliefs or establishing a religion. You have a freedom of religion guaranteed in the first amendment, but you don't have the right to use your religion to violate the equal rights of others

They are not violating their rights, now if there was a sign in the window that said no gays allowed that would be a violation of their rights.
To some Religious people marriage is a contract between a couple and God.
Thus the words till death do us part, because there is no marriage in heaven.
The marriage between two men or two women is not just a sin it's an abomination in Gods eyes. This is their right to their religious beliefs based on the Bible.

Nobody is asking them to marry them. You own a business and must not discriminate. Nobody is asking you to condone a marriage

If the bride is pregnant, should your business provide a cake? Isn't that an abomination?

NO it is sin to have the kid out of wedlock.
They are being forced to bake the cakes by the court.
Judge Orders Colorado Cake Maker To Serve Gay Couples CBS Denver

Both sides have their rights not just one and they should not be forced to bake a wedding cake through the courts.
Just like businesses have signs that say no shirt, no shoes no service.
Why does that not violate shirtless, shoe less peoples rights?

Because shoes and shirts are required by the local health code

Also, the signs do not say that gays are required to wear shirts and shoes while everyone else can wear what they want

There is no signs in theses businesses saying no gays shall be served either.
How is it a health hazard if one person has no shoes and everybody else does?
Having no shirt is not a health issue at all.

But still, refusing to provide service to gays that is available to everyone else violates the law

 

[mudwhistle]

Ultra-Conservative Senator/Governor Mike Pence has changed his position.

Southern Conservative Senator/Governor Asa Huchinson is calling for a re-write before he signs it, making clear there will be no discrimination, and pointing out that the Federal law will be his guidepost, not a 'States Rights' position.

Liberals win again.

Well, pack yer' ass with gerbils, and jump for joy!

another expert on gerbil packing speaks.

This countrys' preoccupation with all things gay is another sign of our un-exceptionalism when we are actually facing a multitude of significant pressing problems that take a back seat to the whims of what amounts to 4% of our population.

The phenomenon of gay acceptance is sweeping the entire Western World. It isn't just happening in America. Don't you have any knowledge of reality outside your own backyard?

BBC News - Gay marriage around the world

A phenomenon is something that is amazing and observable.

There's nothing about it that just happened on it's own. To sum it up.....Agree with us or else......

 

[peach174]

It's another indication that the United States Of America is getting more Progressive every day. People are starting to wake up and discard stifling Conservative dogma and are embracing real freedom - the freedom to live your life without discrimination or being treated less in the Government's eyes and laws.

Liberals win again.

Not when this President calls conservatives the enemy.

 

[rightwinger]

It's another indication that the United States Of America is getting more Progressive every day. People are starting to wake up and discard stifling Conservative dogma and are embracing real freedom - the freedom to live your life without discrimination or being treated less in the Government's eyes and laws.

Liberals win again.

Not when this President calls conservatives the enemy.

What do conservatives call him?

 

[peach174]

They are not violating their rights, now if there was a sign in the window that said no gays allowed that would be a violation of their rights.
To some Religious people marriage is a contract between a couple and God.
Thus the words till death do us part, because there is no marriage in heaven.
The marriage between two men or two women is not just a sin it's an abomination in Gods eyes. This is their right to their religious beliefs based on the Bible.

Nobody is asking them to marry them. You own a business and must not discriminate. Nobody is asking you to condone a marriage

If the bride is pregnant, should your business provide a cake? Isn't that an abomination?

NO it is sin to have the kid out of wedlock.
They are being forced to bake the cakes by the court.
Judge Orders Colorado Cake Maker To Serve Gay Couples CBS Denver

Both sides have their rights not just one and they should not be forced to bake a wedding cake through the courts.
Just like businesses have signs that say no shirt, no shoes no service.
Why does that not violate shirtless, shoe less peoples rights?

Because shoes and shirts are required by the local health code

Also, the signs do not say that gays are required to wear shirts and shoes while everyone else can wear what they want

There is no signs in theses businesses saying no gays shall be served either.
How is it a health hazard if one person has no shoes and everybody else does?
Having no shirt is not a health issue at all.

But still, refusing to provide service to gays that is available to everyone else violates the law

They can have their cakes baked at any other bakery of their choosing.
It would be against the law if they could not get that service any where else at all.

 

[peach174]

It's another indication that the United States Of America is getting more Progressive every day. People are starting to wake up and discard stifling Conservative dogma and are embracing real freedom - the freedom to live your life without discrimination or being treated less in the Government's eyes and laws.

Liberals win again.

Not when this President calls conservatives the enemy.

What do conservatives call him?

Not a good leader and a socialist

 

[Pedro de San Patricio]

So... Grandstanding because another potential threat to Hillary was successfully disposed of? Isn't that a little tasteless?

 

[rightwinger]

Nobody is asking them to marry them. You own a business and must not discriminate. Nobody is asking you to condone a marriage

If the bride is pregnant, should your business provide a cake? Isn't that an abomination?

NO it is sin to have the kid out of wedlock.
They are being forced to bake the cakes by the court.
Judge Orders Colorado Cake Maker To Serve Gay Couples CBS Denver

Both sides have their rights not just one and they should not be forced to bake a wedding cake through the courts.
Just like businesses have signs that say no shirt, no shoes no service.
Why does that not violate shirtless, shoe less peoples rights?

Because shoes and shirts are required by the local health code

Also, the signs do not say that gays are required to wear shirts and shoes while everyone else can wear what they want

There is no signs in theses businesses saying no gays shall be served either.
How is it a health hazard if one person has no shoes and everybody else does?
Having no shirt is not a health issue at all.

But still, refusing to provide service to gays that is available to everyone else violates the law

They can have their cakes baked at any other bakery of their choosing.
It would be against the law if they could not get that service any where else at all.

Oh ....I've heard of that

Separate but equal

 

[peach174]

Liberals won on Civil Rights
Liberals won on environmental protection
Liberals won on Womens rights
Liberals won on Gay rights

Do Conservatives ever tire of being wrong?

Civil Rights was won by both cons and libs.
EPA Dept. was done by President Nixon-(R).
Women's rights movement was both sides. Libs stole the movement and took it over in the early 70's and made it into an anti-men, anti- marriage movement.
Gay rights are still being fought so that is not a win yet.