Liberals/Progressives want to destroy ..not build

The truth is most conservatives like me believe that most people IN the past were taught personal and social responsibility.

Liberals/progressives believe most people are evil and are wild animals and need to be constantly policed and punished!

Most conservatives are smarter then liberals/progressives,recognizing the most efficient government is the government that does the least governing!

Most conservatives think if children are thoroughly educated that the most efficient least costly dictum is
"do unto others as you would have others do unto you, i.e.
the "Golden Rule" !

Liberals/progressives believe the "Golden Rule" is a religious statement and therefore not something to follow.

Most conservatives know smart people build,
while most liberal/progressives like are like idiots/animals just destroy!

AND everyone should agree even idiots that for example, the cell phones these idiot/liberal/progressives use (many get them for FREE!) were not built by people that wanted to destroy as idiots/liberals/progressives
want to do! But are the CREATION of people wanting to build!

Everyone should agree the advances of civilization do not come from people who want to destroy but from people that want to improve!

Societies do not advance if the majority of people want to destroy!

Therefore if societies are to be more civilized and less animalistic it isn't done by what idiots/liberals/progressives do i.e. destroy!

The scope of your denial, hypocrisy and willful ignorance is breathtaking. The mantra and actions of the neo-"conservative" are the exact opposite of your long winded claim.

This leaves the reader with a limited number of options on deciding what your concept of the definition of truth is.
 
Liberals never learned shit aint fair.

Fuck you too. Liberal thinking will save this country, just like Liberal thinking started it.

The only thing worse that hate being spewed is ignorant hate being spewed. Please try to learn a little history before spewing your hate.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/educa...th-conservatism-america-was-born-liberal.html

Hey I wanna play.....................:fu:


Are you a federalist or anti federalist?
 
arguing the 'argument' on issues of discourse is the way to approach it....the silliness of name calling, and negative lable-ization(sp?) in 'bulk' of other citizens/ human beings is meritless, and truly does no good....it's a waste of time from my experience....especially when all the bulk complaints never include ones own sides faults, even if they are the same as ones foes....again, imo.

care

What is even siller is knowing what you posted, yet taking a punitive side against one side (the side which does not align with your ethos of course )for doing it here.

Loop
no one from the left started this thread did they? I have no problems in criticising the positions of the left, when i differ with them....i am more of a centrist, leaning left, though most 'political tests' have me as a centrist, but slightly on the right.

Generalizations are a waste of time....and name calling is definitely a waste of time, in my book! IT only distracts from legitimate diffences that need debating...

oh, and please don't take this as coming from a moderator, or as if i am forcing free speech out of the window! you both are free to continue with all the simplistc bashing that you want....

my comments are from me, as a poster...i would be posting in red ink if i were posting as a mod....it's my personal opinion.

Just take your bashing and labeling over to the Flame Zone, where that shit belongs and stop cluttering up the Politics Forum -the grown-ups are trying to have a conversation here.
 
I apologize if I gave the false impression I was "holier than thou"!
Sorry.
I am an observer though and when you step back for a second and see what the differences are between conservatives (i.e. keeping what has been built) and liberal/progressives who want to tear down.. who want to destroy.. who want more govt intervention..) I just ask which group has a greater respect for the common man?
I mean why would anyone want to tear down Wall Street. And replace with what?
Nothing by the liberal/progressives!
Yet if people like you that evidently have NO idea of what has caused the severe economy by blame it on wall street don't seem to know that the number one cause of the problem was the successful destruction of responsibility in making house payments!
Yes that simple fact that sub-prime loans guaranteed by the Federal govt. finally caught up and burst!
If subprime mortgages were never made, the problem would not have existed!
But supposedly good intentioned politicians starting with Obama in 1991 forced banks to make unsecured loans and the only way the banks could legally do it was by selling these toxic loans to the government, i.e. Fannie/Freddie!
Fannie Freddie.. said:
Oct. 23,2008 (Bloomberg) --
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have an ``effective'' federal guarantee, not the
"full faith and credit'' of the U.S. government,
Federal Housing Finance Agency Director James Lockhart
said after the hearing.
That does give them effectively a guarantee of the U.S. government.''
Lockhart's Fannie, Freddie Guarantee Remarks Stir Up Confusion - Bloomberg
i know quite a bit on what made our economy collapse and your single focus on one single entity out of many does not give the true, WHOLE picture....only one single aspect of what went wrong.

Wall street WAS a key part of it, all on their own, without fannie/freddie....you can't exclude them, from wrong doing!

oh, and i accept your apology in the begining of your post! TY! ;)

care
 
Simple and fair taxes = you pay rich sons a' bitch

Simple and fair taxes = EVERYONE pays their fair share.

If not, the taxes are neither simple or fair.

Are you like 12 or something? Do I need to cut you some slack 'cause you're still wet behind the ears?
 
Well the proof of my point is look at the quality of the people like you that were stung by the criticism and how they responded!
The evidence is in that liberal progressives like Mr. Shaman for example or you better yet don't really get it do you?
If you were NOT so destructive why are you attempting along with Shaman to show your negative side to the simple premise.. "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"?
I didn't put any bombastic statements like you or shaman!
I simple asked why are liberals/progressives so willing to destroy and why are they so needy to have govt. intervene in their everyday lives to such an extent they now have to have Michelle tell them 'don't eat the french fries"!!!

You didn't ask anything. Since you have such a short memory perhaps you should go back and check your post!
 
Simple and fair taxes = you pay rich sons a' bitch

Simple and fair taxes = EVERYONE pays their fair share.

If not, the taxes are neither simple or fair.

Are you like 12 or something? Do I need to cut you some slack 'cause you're still wet behind the ears?

Yes ass wipe spell it out..................

Give us the specific parameters of what a fair tax is.

Be precise.
 
The country should be run somewhat like the NFL. It is a model of capitalism with rules that promote the safety and protection of the workers and the value to the consumer based on the concept that if one team is allowed to game the system and achieve insurmountable superiority then the association as a whole fails.
 
How is that "least governing" thing working out in Somalia?

The OP has a problem with Michele Obama telling our morbidly obese society not to eat French Fries. Were they offering up the same criticism to Laura Bush who told people to read?

There are some problems or issues that are too big for the individual to solve...and that is what government is for. As a liberal I don't want big government, I want good government.
 
As a liberal I don't want big government, I want good government.

OUTSTANDING......................

I wish more of you guys felt that way.
 
Simple and fair taxes = you pay rich sons a' bitch

Simple and fair taxes = EVERYONE pays their fair share.

If not, the taxes are neither simple or fair.

Are you like 12 or something? Do I need to cut you some slack 'cause you're still wet behind the ears?

Yes ass wipe spell it out..................

Give us the specific parameters of what a fair tax is.

Be precise.


I can get behind Herman Cain's 9-9-9 proposal. 9% personal income tax, 9% business income tax and 9% general sales tax.

As long as congress doesn't water it down with a bunch of deductions and favoritism, it's fair because it's simple.

And if you want to keep having this discussion, you'll keep the personal barbs out of it.


:eusa_think: Ass wipe? What are you, 13?
 
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As a liberal I don't want big government, I want good government.

OUTSTANDING......................

I wish more of you guys felt that way.

Try reading some of the posts with a desire to understand instead of simply planning your next attack. You'll find there are several liberals on this board who choose to be liberals because they understand the history behind the term.
 
Well the proof of my point is look at the quality of the people like you that were stung by the criticism and how they responded!
The evidence is in that liberal progressives like Mr. Shaman for example or you better yet don't really get it do you?
If you were NOT so destructive why are you attempting along with Shaman to show your negative side to the simple premise.. "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"?
I didn't put any bombastic statements like you or shaman!
I simple asked why are liberals/progressives so willing to destroy and why are they so needy to have govt. intervene in their everyday lives to such an extent they now have to have Michelle tell them 'don't eat the french fries"!!!

My bet, he's in the 8th grade (and not doing well).
 
The truth is most conservatives like me believe that most people IN the past were taught personal and social responsibility.

Liberals/progressives believe most people are evil and are wild animals and need to be constantly policed and punished!

Most conservatives are smarter then liberals/progressives,recognizing the most efficient government is the government that does the least governing!

Most conservatives think if children are thoroughly educated that the most efficient least costly dictum is
"do unto others as you would have others do unto you, i.e.
the "Golden Rule" !

Liberals/progressives believe the "Golden Rule" is a religious statement and therefore not something to follow.

Most conservatives know smart people build,
while most liberal/progressives like are like idiots/animals just destroy!

AND everyone should agree even idiots that for example, the cell phones these idiot/liberal/progressives use (many get them for FREE!) were not built by people that wanted to destroy as idiots/liberals/progressives
want to do! But are the CREATION of people wanting to build!

Everyone should agree the advances of civilization do not come from people who want to destroy but from people that want to improve!

Societies do not advance if the majority of people want to destroy!

Therefore if societies are to be more civilized and less animalistic it isn't done by what idiots/liberals/progressives do i.e. destroy!
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