Liberals are less tolerant of the views of others.

[Syphon]

Liberals are intolerant of the views of others.

There, fixed

says the guy with a GIF showing Obama groping a woman as his avatar.....

LIAR.

It shows Obama smacking the girls ass, not groping. Get your sexual harassment terminology right.

legal term would be groping.

When used in a sexual context, groping is touching or fondling another person in a sexual way using the hands; it generally has a negative connotation, and is considered molestation in most societies

so i guess this isnt intolerant either then.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Liberals are intolerant of the views of others.

There, fixed

says the guy with a GIF showing Obama groping a woman as his avatar.....

Yeah, I know.

I asked the Libs to pick a new Icon for me and gave them a choice of either Brian Terry (the Border Guard murdered by Holder's Fast and Furious) or the Chinese Obama Fried Chicken logo.

No votes to date

 

[Mr. Shaman]

wow... look at that... the most intolerant views expressed in this thread about the intolerance of liberals... came from liberals.

Who would have known?

Think they've blocked us yet??

Gee.....lemme try to imagine what that's like.

 

[Uncensored2008]

this is a guys blog and hes talking about people online... not all people.

Try again, stupid.

Pew Research did the study, not "some guys blog."

in general people online are less tolerant of other people simply because they can choose to avoid them easier than in real life.

And leftists are less tolerant than sane people, so the intolerance is magnified online.

the exact words from his blog say:
"Online, liberals far less tolerant than normal people"

then again, it much more civil to ignore someone than argue with them when they have comments like this:

What would YOU know about being civil?

Uncensored 2008 - Well goddamn Adolf

ROFL

Yo, stupid fuck, you get called "Adolf" when you start acting like an totalitarian thug - the epitome of intolerance.

Seriously boi, you PROVE the saw: The lower the IQ, the further to the left...

Grunt 11b - You left wing fucking assholes would slaughter gays as soon as you knew you would have complete control

there are plenty of example on this on the USMB.

What are they examples OF, dumbfuck?

Not what you imagine...

Standard Disclaimer: You hiding under the bed has no meaning to me, shit-fer-brains. You post moronic shit, you get taken apart, hiding behind "ignore" means nothing.

 

[Inthemiddle]

There is no need to debate the nuances of this subject.

Valerie, I think you're onto something. Look here. This is the point where someone's "view" is immediately dismissed. Not out of intolerance. But out of intelligence. We then laugh when we see it followed up with this:

We ALL know leftists are shrill, intolerant, loud mouths, period.

 

[Intense]

I think you are arguing with your own better Judgement and losing.

Face it, you are a Closet Conservative.

Closet Conservative Syndrome??? Looking for a second opinion.

I'm a centrist. I'm on the conservative side on several issues. Just not all of them.

That's not allowed... you're either with them, or a Marxist.

I mean, I'm all for Welfare reform that includes a "work for benefits" program, I'm basically anti-gun control, and I am also a Christian.

However, because I am Pro Universal Health Care, Pro-CHOICE(not pro-abortion), Pro Gay Rights, and feel that the key to our economic problems lie in higher wages for the people who actually drive the economy.... I'm considered to be a Marxist in their eyes.

Best Always to stand up for what you believe to be Just, it is not about what is popular, but what is the right thing to do. What good is any Club that you have to deny yourself in order to enter or participate?

 

[L.K.Eder]

wow... look at that... the most intolerant views expressed in this thread about the intolerance of liberals... came from liberals.

Who would have known?

Think they've blocked us yet??

Gee.....lemme try to imagine what that's like.

cannot rep you again, hahahahaha

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm a centrist.

BWAHAHAHAHA

As long as the "center" is defined as a bit left of Mao, that is.

I'm on the conservative side on several issues. Just not all of them.

And you just can't think of any, right now....

You are a hard left, extremely partisan, democrat.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Studies have revealed that liberals are far less tolerant than conservatives when it comes to other peoples' opinions According to an article written by Thomas Lifson on March 13, 2012:

“The new research found that instead of engaging in civil discourse or debate, fully 16% of liberals admitted to blocking, unfriending or overtly hiding someone on a social networking site because that person expressed views they disagreed with. That's double the percentage of conservatives and more than twice the percentage of political moderates who behaved like that.”

Lifson also observed that liberals were more prone to change the subject or to become angry when someone disagrees with them:

“When the realization hits that a cherished belief might be wrong, negative emotions will rush in, and the conversation will be terminated by tears, a change of subject to another emotional topic (this is frequent with family members), or an angry outburst.”

Mr. Lifson's entire article can be read in The American Thinker, March 14, 2012 at the following link:

Blog: Liberal intolerance, by the numbers

Christian Fundamentalist CONz label everyone that reject their nonsense as "liberals".

True story.

Bingo!!!

FIRST PLACE

*

Rubbing Jesus-Freaks' Noses
In The Obvious​

 

[Immanuel]

that there is a text book example of confirmation bias.

I might be open to being convinced that it depends on the side of the track you are coming from.

It is easy for me to see the intolerance of the left because they are intolerant of me and my beliefs. I have to look harder for the intolerance from the right because it is not generally directed at me.

On the other hand, you seem to accept Jillian's intolerant statement without a comment. Might that be because you don't see it as being intolerant? Yes, Jillian displayed intolerance (possibly deliberately due to the topic) of the view that people on her side were more intolerant than the other side.

The left doesn't believe itself to be intolerant. Which is hogwash. The way I see it. They are much more intolerant of differing views than the right. Take two issues one supported by the left wing and one by the right wing (examples gay marriage and religious freedoms) and I think you will find that taking the opposing point of view from the left will get you in much more trouble with them than doing so with the right. Since I find myself in opposition to both sides on many issues i.e. I support Welfare and the right not so much, I can tell you that those on the right seem to be much more tolerant of my "opposition" than those on the left do.

True that is not a scientific way to determine this question as other factors could definitely be involved such as the fact that I am seen as being more conservative than not by most people. Maybe that has something to do with it. But generally when this is not so much of an issue, I think you will find that people on the right are more willing to forgive your "transgressions" than those on the left.

Immie

my not commenting on a post should never be interpreted as agreeing or disagreeing with the uncommented post. that would be awkward.

the bolded part is the relevant part.

the more extreme the less intolerant.

that goes for everything.

blaming this on one side of the political spectrum is mindnumbingly simplistic.

Who's blaming?

I simply gave my view of how things appear. My view is as relevant as that of anyone else.

the more extreme the less intolerant.

WHAT!!!!

Are you frigging kidding me? Or was that a "mindnumbingly simplistic" typo? Did you mean to say the more extreme the less tolerant?

That has to be what you meant because only someone like tm, kg or rdean would make the statement that the more extreme one is the less intolerant they are. What you just said means the more extreme the more tolerant. I simply can't believe that is what you meant.

Immie

 

[Steelplate]

I'm a centrist. I'm on the conservative side on several issues. Just not all of them.

That's not allowed... you're either with them, or a Marxist.

I mean, I'm all for Welfare reform that includes a "work for benefits" program, I'm basically anti-gun control, and I am also a Christian.

However, because I am Pro Universal Health Care, Pro-CHOICE(not pro-abortion), Pro Gay Rights, and feel that the key to our economic problems lie in higher wages for the people who actually drive the economy.... I'm considered to be a Marxist in their eyes.

Best Always to stand up for what you believe to be Just, it is not about what is popular, but what is the right thing to do. What good is any Club that you have to deny yourself in order to enter or participate?

Ummmm.... OK? Want to elaborate?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Liberals are less tolerant of the views of others.

When Liberals start BOMBING anti-abortion facilities/efforts...or, ASSASSINATING their membership....we can start talking about intolerance.

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Do you mean when liberals stop destroying public property, personal property and crapping in the streets, you would be willing to discuss intolerance.

I'd match Liberal "body-counts", against "conservative" body-counts, any day!!

​

 

[Immanuel]

The study is flawed in several ways. Here are a few:

1. Sample size is not convincing.

2. The categories are undefined and subjective. It relies on people to identify themselves as either very conservative, conservative, moderate, liberal, or very liberal. Two people could hold the exact same set of particular positions on given issues, yet identify themselves differently within those categories. A better approach would have been to administer a some kind of questionaire to assess a person's position within the political spectrum.

3. Even if we are to accept the categorization in the study, the data shows that many more of the participants were either liberal or very liberal, than were conservative or very conservative, or moderate. It stands to reason that we'll see more incidents from a greater number of people.

4. The study data, once again assuming that we are to accept the categorization used, also indicate that those on the left, however far on the left, are confronted by more incidences of friends holding different political views than they. This makes it possible that the real mechanism here is that liberals are more likely than conservatives to have "friends" on social media with whom they disagree politically and that conservatives are less likely to have friends of differing political persuasions. If that were the case, it could suggest that conservatives are actually much less tolerant of people with different political opinions because they don't make friends in the first place with people who have different perspectives. The study does not account for this possibility.

5. Based on that same set of data, it is equally possible that liberals are less likely to voice political topics via social media, which gives less opportunity to be "blocked" by conservative friends, while conservatives might be more likely to voice political topics. It is also possible that conservatives voice opinions on sensitive political issues moreso than liberals, or that they more offensive in their approach to voicing such things.

Good post although I would disagree with #3 in that it was percentage based so it could have been 1000 liberals and 500 conservatives but what was shown was the percentage of each.

Also, you have nothing to support your assumption of #4.

Nor do you have anything to back up #5.

Immie

 

[Conservative]

says the guy with a GIF showing Obama groping a woman as his avatar.....

LIAR.

It shows Obama smacking the girls ass, not groping. Get your sexual harassment terminology right.

legal term would be groping.

When used in a sexual context, groping is touching or fondling another person in a sexual way using the hands; it generally has a negative connotation, and is considered molestation in most societies

so i guess this isnt intolerant either then.

you appear to be correct in your definition.

As for the picture, they forgot the uniform.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I think you are arguing with your own better Judgement and losing.

Face it, you are a Closet Conservative.

Closet Conservative Syndrome??? Looking for a second opinion.

I'm a centrist. I'm on the conservative side on several issues. Just not all of them.

You're fucking delusional and are a classic example of why I say most self-identified "Centrists and Moderates" are either pathological liars or don't have the mental capacity to understand how politics works in the first place

 

[naturegirl]

One could write a dissertation on a subject with complete sincerity and have their "views" completely dismissed as part of the greater discussion on a particular issue because intelligent people realize more readily what has already been established as beyond a practical point in the discussion. In going beyond the tedium and repetition of what is and what is not beside the point, or what is apples and oranges, etc...people often get emotional and feel their views have been "dismissed" by others cracking jokes or whatever perceived "intolerance", and it really is because a few people in the room already realize what the ranting ignoramus does not.

There has been research that tells the liberals they are smarter than everyone else, they tend to believe that, they are superior in their own minds. I don't see them dismissing that study.

The example above shows that some feel their view is superior and therefore unworthy of practical point discussion because the other poster "doesn't get it". A ranting ignoramus can hold various degrees, no one knows everything about all things.

So because liberals think they are of superior intelligence, based on some research, they just dismiss the views of the right because it's tedious.

So it's best we just dismiss this research because it couldn't possibly be true.

 

[L.K.Eder]

I might be open to being convinced that it depends on the side of the track you are coming from.

It is easy for me to see the intolerance of the left because they are intolerant of me and my beliefs. I have to look harder for the intolerance from the right because it is not generally directed at me.

On the other hand, you seem to accept Jillian's intolerant statement without a comment. Might that be because you don't see it as being intolerant? Yes, Jillian displayed intolerance (possibly deliberately due to the topic) of the view that people on her side were more intolerant than the other side.

The left doesn't believe itself to be intolerant. Which is hogwash. The way I see it. They are much more intolerant of differing views than the right. Take two issues one supported by the left wing and one by the right wing (examples gay marriage and religious freedoms) and I think you will find that taking the opposing point of view from the left will get you in much more trouble with them than doing so with the right. Since I find myself in opposition to both sides on many issues i.e. I support Welfare and the right not so much, I can tell you that those on the right seem to be much more tolerant of my "opposition" than those on the left do.

True that is not a scientific way to determine this question as other factors could definitely be involved such as the fact that I am seen as being more conservative than not by most people. Maybe that has something to do with it. But generally when this is not so much of an issue, I think you will find that people on the right are more willing to forgive your "transgressions" than those on the left.

Immie

my not commenting on a post should never be interpreted as agreeing or disagreeing with the uncommented post. that would be awkward.

the bolded part is the relevant part.

the more extreme the less intolerant.

that goes for everything.

blaming this on one side of the political spectrum is mindnumbingly simplistic.

Who's blaming?

I simply gave my view of how things appear. My view is as relevant as that of anyone else.

the more extreme the less intolerant.

WHAT!!!!

Are you frigging kidding me? Or was that a "mindnumbingly simplistic" typo? Did you mean to say the more extreme the less tolerant?

That has to be what you meant because only someone like tm, kg or rdean would make the statement that the more extreme one is the less intolerant they are. What you just said means the more extreme the more tolerant. I simply can't believe that is what you meant.

Immie

that was a mindnumbingly stupid and obvious mistake, not a typo.

more extreme less tolerant.

the blaming part i got from the OP, not from you.

 

[Inthemiddle]

Good post although I would disagree with #3 in that it was percentage based so it could have been 1000 liberals and 500 conservatives but what was shown was the percentage of each.

Also, you have nothing to support your assumption of #4.

Nor do you have anything to back up #5.

Immie

Now that I look at it, you're actually right about #3. The other points are meant just to demonstrate that the survey fails to account for several other alternative possibilities, and as such is flawed. I'm not, in any way, trying to claim that those possibilities are in fact the reality, nor would I suggest that they are the only possible alternatives. Just that the data leaves the door wide open for too many things to be useful to identify any kind of pattern to behaviors. It's little more than a tally card for a handful of people.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What does it really mean to be tolerant of others views...? In what context?

It means actually listening/reading the view of others, prior to comment.

Often times in a forum like this, intelligent people tend to be intolerant of ignoramuses who think their opinion is significant to an issue which is not even a matter of opinion.

Yes but;

Intelligent people tend to be conservative, where the study shows that it is the ignoramuses, the leftists, who are most intolerant of opposing views.

One could write a dissertation on a subject with complete sincerity and have their "views" completely dismissed as part of the greater discussion on a particular issue because intelligent people realize more readily what has already been established as beyond a practical point in the discussion. In going beyond the tedium and repetition of what is and what is not beside the point, or what is apples and oranges, etc...people often get emotional and feel their views have been "dismissed" by others cracking jokes or whatever perceived "intolerance", and it really is because a few people in the room already realize what the ranting ignoramus does not.

Did you have a point?

Please note, this happens on both ends of the political spectrum but...

The study shows that the left side of the spectrum is less open to considering views or facts that challenge the dogma of their party.

 

[Uncensored2008]

That's not allowed... you're either with them, or a Marxist.

He's consistently to the left of you, sparky.

I mean, I'm all for Welfare reform that includes a "work for benefits" program, I'm basically anti-gun control, and I am also a Christian.

You want a cookie?

However, because I am Pro Universal Health Care, Pro-CHOICE(not pro-abortion), Pro Gay Rights, and feel that the key to our economic problems lie in higher wages for the people who actually drive the economy.... I'm considered to be a Marxist in their eyes.

Imagine, considering an advocate of socialized medicine to be a socialist....