Liberalism is far worse than either Communism or Socialism

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    Sure they all share the same economic ideas. But Liberalism’s social ideas make it far more dangerous than either Communism or Socialism. In Liberalism it is not the individual’s responsibility but it is society’s responsibility. It you commit murder it is not your fault it is the way you were brought up. If you steal it is not your fault, it is because of the education system. If you are poor, it is not your fault it is because of the rich.

    As a child my family was extremely poor. Growing up I lived in a poor conservative neighborhoods and in a poor Liberal neighborhoods. There was far more crime in the poor Liberal neighborhoods. In a Liberal neighborhood if you steal or kill it is not your fault it is societies fault. In a Conservative neighborhood it you steal or kill it is your fault and nobody else’s fault. But the fact is that the individual not the society decides to steal or kill. So when Liberals place the responsibility on society and not the individual it is a disaster. Society can not stop someone from killing they can only punish those that do. Only the individual can stop themselves from killing.

    The prisons are filled with Liberals. They are not Liberals because they are in prison they are in prison because they are Liberals. When everyone else is responsible for the position you are in then you have no reason to be responsible for yourself. It is everyone else’s job to get you the education you need. It is everyone else’s responsibility to keep you from killing. It is everyone else’s responsibility to stop you from being poor. Only one problem is that none of that is true. All those things are the individual’s responsibility and they are the only ones that can truly affect their lives.

    No amount of education will be enough to force someone to be educated. No amount of law enforcement or prisons will be enough to stop people from killing. For only so long will people tolerate others mooching of them for their survival. The Liberal social ideology is wrong. Only bad things will come from trying to implement their social ideology. Ask yourself if you had to walk the streets of a city every night as a job. Would you choose to walk the streets of a Liberal city or a Conservative city? After finding your answer, ask what a Liberal country would be like and what a Conservative country would be like? Which country would you want to live in?
     
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    At least Communists and Socialists are honest about the system of government they want, even though it always fails.


    Liberalism is just an ongoing lie.
     
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    Would you give us some examples of this conservative utopia you describe? Demark is the happiest country on the planet. Liberal or conservative?
     
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    Did I say Utopia? Conservatives never promise a Utopia. That is the Liberals that promise such things. Where is Demark? If you are referring to Denmark, then you need to realize there are differences in Europeans and Americans when it comes to Liberal social beliefs. Are you saying that Denmark is a Utopia?
     
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    Pure white.
     
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    An EXCELLENT post. Right on the money, you bet!! To a liberal a REAL criminal is one who fights back. UNLESS the victim of this "fighting back" is black or gay that is. Then that's a whole other story.
     
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    And conservatives are honest too, just like communists they promise everything to the people and never keep the promise.
     
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    You are projecting, but then again, Liberals Lie constantly.
     
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    Well . . . no, actually. But that doesn't seem to be what you're talking about here, so I'll let it slide for now.

    Hmm. Well, let's consider some of modern liberalism's social ideas. (I'll skip those of the past, like universal education or the abolition of slavery, and concentrate only on the ones emerging only in the 20th and 21st centuries.)

    That men and women should be equal before the law, in voting and other political rights, and in economic opportunity.

    That women should control their own sexuality and reproduction rather than having it be controlled by men.

    That everyone should be treated equally before the law, and have equal economic opportunity, regardless of race.

    That the earth we live on is finite in its capacity to support life, and should be treated with respect and proper, responsible husbandry, not merely used for a quick profit.

    That in a free society, no religion should be endorsed in any way by the government, lest this infringe the freedom of other faiths, or of the irreligious.

    That homosexuality is natural for a minority of the population, and that people should have the same rights under the law and equal economic opportunity regardless of sexual orientation.

    Yeah, those are really dangerous ideas, all right.

    To tyrants.
     
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    Conservatives don't make promises. They don't want to GIVE you anything, but the opportunity to make something of yourself, to follow your dream, to be a responsible productive citizen, be free, be able to defend yourself. Remember what JFK said: "Ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what YOU can do for your country." And HE professed to be "liberal." Imagine that!
     

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