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    My goodness, you certainly do project a bunch of traits onto him that he has not expressed.

    You sound even more fearful than Juaquin.
     
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    Welcome, we will see how your infatuation with Trump turns out
     
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    Beats the hell outta me - You'd have to ask a right winger. I take it your definition of "right winger" is somebody who staunchly supports same-sex marriage and gays in the military, universal background checks and waiting periods for firearms purchases, who was delighted when the US finally reopened full diplomatic & trade relations with Cuba, fully supports euthanasia, believes Terry Schiavo's husband did the right thing and those who vilified him were way outta line, supports progressive tax rates, supports legal marijuana for both medical and recreational purposes even though I don't use it myself, supports embryonic stem-cell research, is a huge Jon Stewart fan and despises Limbaugh (and Breitbart, BTW), cheered out loud when that bombastic asshole Bill O'Reilly finally got his comeuppance, can't help rolling my eyes in amusement anytime I run across somebody who still refuses to accept that evolution is an undeniable fact, would never support any effort to cut programs like welfare, food stamps & HUD housing, sees nothing wrong with sex-ed in schools, voted for both Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, and plenty more.

    That's what you call a "right winger"?? You have a very strange definition...

    And speaking of definitions, thank you for going to the trouble of posting the definition of "liberal" in a subsequent post. But you failed to point out which specifics don't apply to me. Can you? Will you?
     
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    Naw, nothing wrong with Joaquin's definition.

    You fell for the Trumpy's preposterous photo-op in Singapore, which alone at least makes you a suspect right-winger, for these critters fall for crowing loudly while carrying a limp stick every time.

    While crowing about your respect for science, you have no problem with the Trumpy disregarding and sidelining sciences when they stand in the way of his deleterious policies.

    While crowing about your support for abortion, you have no problem with the Trumpy disrespecting women in a way not seen since about the 1950s.

    While crowing about your support for SNAP, you have no problem with the Trumpy cutting same.

    While you dislike the walking, talking and shitting personality defect that is the Trumpy, you have no problem with that narcissistic megalomaniac undoing the (largely) U.S.-created international order that stands at the root of reigning in the scourge of humankind, that is, war.

    Loudly proclaiming your "liberalism", you have no problem with the Trumpy's all-out deregulatory frenzy resulting, quite predictably, in unhealthy living conditions (etc.) and an increasingly ailing population (etc.), no problem with the Trumpy's all-out assault on minority voting, no problem whatsoever with the Trumpy's habitual, compulsive lying...

    And on and on it goes.

    Because, he's just great at presidencing. You are a right-winger, with some declaratory utterances that look like libertarianism, which don't seem to influence your judgment, posturing as a liberal heartthrob. That, again, is evidence for a compartmentalized brain, which again is a defining characteristic of authoritarians, that is, right-wingers.

    The only question that remains unanswered is whether you really don't know who you are - that would point to your suffering of anosognosia, a wide-spread ailment among right-wingers - or whether you are lying on an anonymous chatboard about who you are. In the latter case you definitely are a right-winger.
     
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    He's boldly staking out a liberal position on yesteryear's wedge issues. I didn't see him mention abortion, though I may have missed it. Immigration, healthcare, religious 'freedom' issues, SS funding? Those are missing.
     
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    It's because I don't take you at face value after you declared 'leftists made liberal a dirty word'. That's the World According to Sean Hannity. The truth is rightwing hatemongers have spent 25 years turning 'liberal' into a dirty word. If you don't know that, you're the idiot.
     
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    You are right, I've been jumping to the conclusion on abortion support based on his support for same-sex marriage, which would align with "keep the state out of what adults do with their body" libertarianism. Apologies...

    There's a lot missing, and every item on the list demonstrating the Trumpy's greatness is either a misunderstanding or the Trumpy riding on (despised) President Obama's coattails. Which is a slightly puzzling stance for a "liberal".
     
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    LOL. Well sure enough, one runs into people like you on every board. Tell yourselves whatever makes you happy. I notice you mention things like Trump's mistreatment of women (a decade before he ran for prez), but no mention of Bill Clinton's depredations while prez (and before you make even bigger fools of yourselves with the predictable "See! He hates Clinton!", LOL, remember I voted for him. I think he was a very good president. I'm merely pointing out your own lopsided hypocrisy.) Or how about your mentioning of Trump's "habitual compulsive lying", but no mention of Hillary's pathological lying (and again, that's merely another example of your own lopsided hypocrisy, nothing more.) And just for shits & giggles, please explain Trump's "assault on minority voting". But funniest of all was the "authoritarian" comment, ROFL. Could you possibly be more ridiculous? You wanna talk about authoritarians? Can't nobody out-authoritarian today's Democrats! Sheesh, they wanna restrict/regulate/control every aspect of everything.

    I obviously have no idea how old (or young) you are. But if you're younger than, say 60, I suppose you can be forgiven for being so clueless about what classical liberalism was. Back in the 60's the liberal mantras were things like "Do your own thing, and leave me alone to do my own thing"....."More government, less freedom"....."If it feels good, do it"...."Free speech for everybody" (i.e. not just those who agree with you, and riot when somebody you don't agree with is scheduled to speak).....in 1971 Graham Nash's biggest hit song included the line "Rules and regulations, who needs them?".....and so on. Today's leftist intrusion into everything, what you're "allowed" to think, "allowed" to say, etc, is pure anathema to true liberalism.
     
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    Well, well... I'd add stereotyping to the list of your (typical right-wing) characteristics. Also, no sign of a willingness to learn from your interlocutors, rather LOLing to yourself about not really existing funny.

    If you are in it for a real debate, look out for Joaquin. He's among the sharpest you find here, with a handful of others, or two, who can keep up.

    In case you'd rather keep missing what evolved since the 1970s, you'll find fellow Trumpletons who always have a pat on the head for one of their own.

    Either way, have fun!
     
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    Funny? You want funny, just look at a post accusing "stereotyping", and yet including comments like "typical right-wing" and "Trumpletons". Hypocrite much? And you may rest assured I have indeed paid careful attention to what has "evolved" on the left since the 1970's (and it ain't pretty), and that's exactly why it's so necessary to emphasize the stark differences between classic liberalism and today's leftists.

    As for Joaquin, I hope you're right; I sincerely hope he's sharper than his posts so far have indicated, and that he can keep up. I already know lots of sites where I can have reasonable, objective debate with rightwingers. I came here specifically hoping to find reasonable, objective leftwingers, but have so far been sadly disappointed.
     
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