Liberal Rag Mother Jones Predicted California Fires

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You know for sure that your environmental policies are wacky when Mother Jones disagrees with you. Trump is, has been, and will always be right.

“We have 100 years of fire suppression that has led to this huge accumulation of fuel loads, just dead and downed debris from trees and plant material in our forests, and in our woodlands,” says Berleman. “As a result of that, our forests and woodlands are not healthy, and we’re getting more catastrophic fire behavior than we would otherwise.”

"Addressing the problem will require a revolution in land management and in people’s relationship with fire"

"Native Americans used fire for thousands of years to manage forests and grasslands and protect their villages. Tribes regularly burned California’s oak woodlands, for instance, to remove underbrush and fight pests. It helped them spot prey more easily, keep weevils out of the acorns they gathered for food, and safeguard their homes from wildfire."

A century of fire suppression is why California is in flames
 
No, not really. On the other hand, when the forest service let fires burn in Yellowstone like they did till 88', then the ginormous fires occur, it's also THEIR "fault". Mismanagement of the forest floor? It rings hollow.
Seems to me, building in high fire areas is the fault here. Overpopulation might be more at fault here. Global warming. Ya' know?
 
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Were the Tree Huggers hugging the rotten bug infested trees before these fires.............
 
Californians complain about floods and mudslides when it's wet and fires when it is dry so they elect a freaking pot head who blames the rest of the country for "global warming" and everyone feels better about it.
 
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Were the Tree Huggers hugging the rotten bug infested trees before these fires.............


You're a truly deplorable person. You just made a thousand hippies cry, thanks to you picture.

Shame on you..

 
You know for sure that your environmental policies are wacky when Mother Jones disagrees with you. Trump is, has been, and will always be right.

“We have 100 years of fire suppression that has led to this huge accumulation of fuel loads, just dead and downed debris from trees and plant material in our forests, and in our woodlands,” says Berleman. “As a result of that, our forests and woodlands are not healthy, and we’re getting more catastrophic fire behavior than we would otherwise.”

"Addressing the problem will require a revolution in land management and in people’s relationship with fire"

"Native Americans used fire for thousands of years to manage forests and grasslands and protect their villages. Tribes regularly burned California’s oak woodlands, for instance, to remove underbrush and fight pests. It helped them spot prey more easily, keep weevils out of the acorns they gathered for food, and safeguard their homes from wildfire."

A century of fire suppression is why California is in flames

Funny how that happens:

Further complicating the picture is climate change—the major factor behind the longer fire seasons and bigger fires. This creates a feedback loop, where megafires exacerbate climate change, which then encourages even bigger wildfires. One study found that from 1984 to 2015, climate change doubled the area burned by wildfires across the West, compared to what would have burned without climate change. As the globe keeps warming, scientists expect forests to continue getting warmer, drier and more flammable. Unless people reduce greenhouse gas emissions, climate change will significantly increase the frequency of wildfires. One study projected that if fossil fuels remain the dominant source of global energy and greenhouse gas emissions keep rising, by 2085 the acreage burned by fire in California will increase one-third to three-fourths.​
 
1tmvcr.jpg


Were the Tree Huggers hugging the rotten bug infested trees before these fires.............


You're a truly deplorable person. You just made a thousand hippies cry, thanks to you picture.

Shame on you..



A cow peed upstream from that guy drinking water from that stream
1tmvcr.jpg


Were the Tree Huggers hugging the rotten bug infested trees before these fires.............


You're a truly deplorable person. You just made a thousand hippies cry, thanks to you picture.

Shame on you..



A cow peed upstream from that guy drinking water from that stream
 
You know for sure that your environmental policies are wacky when Mother Jones disagrees with you. Trump is, has been, and will always be right.

“We have 100 years of fire suppression that has led to this huge accumulation of fuel loads, just dead and downed debris from trees and plant material in our forests, and in our woodlands,” says Berleman. “As a result of that, our forests and woodlands are not healthy, and we’re getting more catastrophic fire behavior than we would otherwise.”

"Addressing the problem will require a revolution in land management and in people’s relationship with fire"

"Native Americans used fire for thousands of years to manage forests and grasslands and protect their villages. Tribes regularly burned California’s oak woodlands, for instance, to remove underbrush and fight pests. It helped them spot prey more easily, keep weevils out of the acorns they gathered for food, and safeguard their homes from wildfire."

A century of fire suppression is why California is in flames

Funny how that happens:

Further complicating the picture is climate change—the major factor behind the longer fire seasons and bigger fires. This creates a feedback loop, where megafires exacerbate climate change, which then encourages even bigger wildfires. One study found that from 1984 to 2015, climate change doubled the area burned by wildfires across the West, compared to what would have burned without climate change. As the globe keeps warming, scientists expect forests to continue getting warmer, drier and more flammable. Unless people reduce greenhouse gas emissions, climate change will significantly increase the frequency of wildfires. One study projected that if fossil fuels remain the dominant source of global energy and greenhouse gas emissions keep rising, by 2085 the acreage burned by fire in California will increase one-third to three-fourths.​

But California is 110% climate change-compliant. No other state has the strictest laws which force the reduction of "greenhouse gasses".

Sorta like the states which enacted the strictest gun laws, also have the highest murder rates. Get what I mean?
 
Get what I mean?

It isn't hard to see what you mean: You don't have the beginnings of a hint of a clue, and misrepresenting, distorting, and lying about your own source is just okay. Yep, that should be about it.
 
Get what I mean?

It isn't hard to see what you mean: You don't have the beginnings of a hint of a clue, and misrepresenting, distorting, and lying about your own source is just okay. Yep, that should be about it.

No, seriously. Where does California get most of its climate and weather patterns? They come in from the coast, from wet to east, as most weather does.

Blame China, not me.
 
You know for sure that your environmental policies are wacky when Mother Jones disagrees with you. Trump is, has been, and will always be right.

“We have 100 years of fire suppression that has led to this huge accumulation of fuel loads, just dead and downed debris from trees and plant material in our forests, and in our woodlands,” says Berleman. “As a result of that, our forests and woodlands are not healthy, and we’re getting more catastrophic fire behavior than we would otherwise.”

"Addressing the problem will require a revolution in land management and in people’s relationship with fire"

"Native Americans used fire for thousands of years to manage forests and grasslands and protect their villages. Tribes regularly burned California’s oak woodlands, for instance, to remove underbrush and fight pests. It helped them spot prey more easily, keep weevils out of the acorns they gathered for food, and safeguard their homes from wildfire."

A century of fire suppression is why California is in flames

Funny how that happens:

Further complicating the picture is climate change—the major factor behind the longer fire seasons and bigger fires. This creates a feedback loop, where megafires exacerbate climate change, which then encourages even bigger wildfires. One study found that from 1984 to 2015, climate change doubled the area burned by wildfires across the West, compared to what would have burned without climate change. As the globe keeps warming, scientists expect forests to continue getting warmer, drier and more flammable. Unless people reduce greenhouse gas emissions, climate change will significantly increase the frequency of wildfires. One study projected that if fossil fuels remain the dominant source of global energy and greenhouse gas emissions keep rising, by 2085 the acreage burned by fire in California will increase one-third to three-fourths.​

But California is 110% climate change-compliant. No other state has the strictest laws which force the reduction of "greenhouse gasses".

Sorta like the states which enacted the strictest gun laws, also have the highest murder rates. Get what I mean?
Specious logic
 
You know for sure that your environmental policies are wacky when Mother Jones disagrees with you. Trump is, has been, and will always be right.

“We have 100 years of fire suppression that has led to this huge accumulation of fuel loads, just dead and downed debris from trees and plant material in our forests, and in our woodlands,” says Berleman. “As a result of that, our forests and woodlands are not healthy, and we’re getting more catastrophic fire behavior than we would otherwise.”

"Addressing the problem will require a revolution in land management and in people’s relationship with fire"

"Native Americans used fire for thousands of years to manage forests and grasslands and protect their villages. Tribes regularly burned California’s oak woodlands, for instance, to remove underbrush and fight pests. It helped them spot prey more easily, keep weevils out of the acorns they gathered for food, and safeguard their homes from wildfire."

A century of fire suppression is why California is in flames

Funny how that happens:

Further complicating the picture is climate change—the major factor behind the longer fire seasons and bigger fires. This creates a feedback loop, where megafires exacerbate climate change, which then encourages even bigger wildfires. One study found that from 1984 to 2015, climate change doubled the area burned by wildfires across the West, compared to what would have burned without climate change. As the globe keeps warming, scientists expect forests to continue getting warmer, drier and more flammable. Unless people reduce greenhouse gas emissions, climate change will significantly increase the frequency of wildfires. One study projected that if fossil fuels remain the dominant source of global energy and greenhouse gas emissions keep rising, by 2085 the acreage burned by fire in California will increase one-third to three-fourths.​

But California is 110% climate change-compliant. No other state has the strictest laws which force the reduction of "greenhouse gasses".

Sorta like the states which enacted the strictest gun laws, also have the highest murder rates. Get what I mean?
Specious logic

It sure as hell isn't burning here. We're having a normal Fall/Winter with temperatures in the teen and a light snowfall.
 
You know for sure that your environmental policies are wacky when Mother Jones disagrees with you. Trump is, has been, and will always be right.

“We have 100 years of fire suppression that has led to this huge accumulation of fuel loads, just dead and downed debris from trees and plant material in our forests, and in our woodlands,” says Berleman. “As a result of that, our forests and woodlands are not healthy, and we’re getting more catastrophic fire behavior than we would otherwise.”

"Addressing the problem will require a revolution in land management and in people’s relationship with fire"

"Native Americans used fire for thousands of years to manage forests and grasslands and protect their villages. Tribes regularly burned California’s oak woodlands, for instance, to remove underbrush and fight pests. It helped them spot prey more easily, keep weevils out of the acorns they gathered for food, and safeguard their homes from wildfire."

A century of fire suppression is why California is in flames

Funny how that happens:

Further complicating the picture is climate change—the major factor behind the longer fire seasons and bigger fires. This creates a feedback loop, where megafires exacerbate climate change, which then encourages even bigger wildfires. One study found that from 1984 to 2015, climate change doubled the area burned by wildfires across the West, compared to what would have burned without climate change. As the globe keeps warming, scientists expect forests to continue getting warmer, drier and more flammable. Unless people reduce greenhouse gas emissions, climate change will significantly increase the frequency of wildfires. One study projected that if fossil fuels remain the dominant source of global energy and greenhouse gas emissions keep rising, by 2085 the acreage burned by fire in California will increase one-third to three-fourths.​

But California is 110% climate change-compliant. No other state has the strictest laws which force the reduction of "greenhouse gasses".

Sorta like the states which enacted the strictest gun laws, also have the highest murder rates. Get what I mean?
How many greenhouse gases were released into the atmosphere by this once in a lifetime dual killer wild fires in Northern and Southern California simultaneously?

How does this fit into Jerry Brown's vision of leading the nation in reduction of global warming gasses?
Who is going to hold him accountable when his epic mismanagement of California forests is personally responsible
for rising ocean levels, dying polar bears and Barbara Steisand's beach front Malibu home is under water (if not already burnt down)? Fuck you, Moonbeam!
 

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