Liberal politics are a lose-lose situation

[bucs90]

I see now why leftists are so angry and bitter all the time. Their ideology is a guaranteed loss. How? Let me explain.

If the right wins in elections or talking points, the left loses. Thats a loss. Easy enough.

But if the left wins? Well, we are seeing time and time again throughout society where socialism and communism have failed. The entitlement lifestyle always fails. Greece is a perfect example. The USSR. North Korea. Cuba. Venezuela. If Canada had to spend money on national defense, they'd be in trouble to. Luckily, they got us. But, Spain is in trouble. England is in trouble. Germany is in trouble. All the socialist and communist states have failed or are failing.

So, if the left wins this culture war, all of the lefties will eventually end up rioting in the streets because they lost their benefits or free food or free rent or whatever. Whats the saying? "Eventually you run out of other people's money."?

So, the lefties know they've latched onto a failed philosophy. So, win or lose, they end up losing either way.

And before some bitter, whining lefties start crying "OH YEAH well how has that capitalism worked out for America, huh?"

It's worked out so good, our poor have obesity problems. So good, our minority black population would be the 5th richest nation on Earth if counted seperately. So good our "poor" on average own 2 cars, a color TV, fridge, washer and dryer, have air conditioning, microwave, cell phone, and get subsidized food, shelter and education.

Sorry lefties. If you beat us in this ideological battle, well, we're all gonna lose and end up like Greece one day. But if we win, well, we'll keep erecting crosses over top of our Wal-Marts and driving pickup trucks, while you still lose. Either way, you lose!

 

[bucs90]

Just listening to a talk radio show, and apparantly Oompa Loompa SC nominee wrote a senior thesis pondering how socialism never took hold in America? She wondered how in a free society, a socialist party (perhaps a National Socialist Party?) could never find it's way.

Well, the obvious reason would be that it is just a bad philosophy of governing. It doesn't work. See Greece.

But the troubling issue is that it puzzled her. Because in HER mind, it's a wonderful idea. It's sort of like asking how could Gatorade not become popular in a gym? It's like DUH it's a wonderful thing, I should right a senior thesis on it because it is so baffling on how this wonderful form of government never happened here? With all our resources?

Yep. To 90% of us the answer to her thesis is : Because socialism and communism suck and end up failing, they are a bad idea.

But she is among the 10% who see the USA without socialism a lot like a gym without Gatorade.

 

[rightwinger]

Didn't we try that let the right do things their way stuff?

What did we get?

- Worst terrorism attack in US History
- Two wars one of which they lied to us to start
- Massive recession
- Destruction and ridicule of the American image abroad
- Destruction of environmentaland labor laws
- Tax cut which added $2.5 trillion to debt

 

[skookerasbil]

Didn't we try that let the right do things their way stuff?

What did we get?

- Worst terrorism attack in US History
- Two wars one of which they lied to us to start
- Massive recession
- Destruction and ridicule of the American image abroad
- Destruction of environmentaland labor laws
- Tax cut which added $2.5 trillion to debt

- Worst terrorism attack in US History but nobody blames this on Bush
- Two wars one of which they lied to us to startAll Dems on board from the start
- Massive recessionHappens in every administration
- Destruction and ridicule of the American image abroadonly limpwristers care about "image"
- Destruction of environmental and labor lawsregulation for k00k causes destroy jobs
- Tax cut which added $2.5 trillion to debttotal bs.....due to out of control spending by Dems and Repubs in congress



The k00k lefties on this board never get it right!!!

 

[Bfgrn]

I see now why leftists are so angry and bitter all the time. Their ideology is a guaranteed loss. How? Let me explain.

If the right wins in elections or talking points, the left loses. Thats a loss. Easy enough.

But if the left wins? Well, we are seeing time and time again throughout society where socialism and communism have failed. The entitlement lifestyle always fails. Greece is a perfect example. The USSR. North Korea. Cuba. Venezuela. If Canada had to spend money on national defense, they'd be in trouble to. Luckily, they got us. But, Spain is in trouble. England is in trouble. Germany is in trouble. All the socialist and communist states have failed or are failing.

So, if the left wins this culture war, all of the lefties will eventually end up rioting in the streets because they lost their benefits or free food or free rent or whatever. Whats the saying? "Eventually you run out of other people's money."?

So, the lefties know they've latched onto a failed philosophy. So, win or lose, they end up losing either way.

And before some bitter, whining lefties start crying "OH YEAH well how has that capitalism worked out for America, huh?"

It's worked out so good, our poor have obesity problems. So good, our minority black population would be the 5th richest nation on Earth if counted seperately. So good our "poor" on average own 2 cars, a color TV, fridge, washer and dryer, have air conditioning, microwave, cell phone, and get subsidized food, shelter and education.

Sorry lefties. If you beat us in this ideological battle, well, we're all gonna lose and end up like Greece one day. But if we win, well, we'll keep erecting crosses over top of our Wal-Marts and driving pickup trucks, while you still lose. Either way, you lose!

Win/lose? I guess it all depends on what the ultimate reward is...

Luke 16:13-15…

[13] No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and mammon (money)

[14] The Pharisees, who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus.

[15] He said to them, "You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts. What is highly valued among men is detestable in God's sight.

 

[Mr Natural]

I see now why leftists are so angry and bitter all the time. Their ideology is a guaranteed loss. How? Let me explain.

If the right wins in elections or talking points, the left loses. Thats a loss. Easy enough.

But if the left wins? Well, we are seeing time and time again throughout society where socialism and communism have failed. The entitlement lifestyle always fails. Greece is a perfect example. The USSR. North Korea. Cuba. Venezuela. If Canada had to spend money on national defense, they'd be in trouble to. Luckily, they got us. But, Spain is in trouble. England is in trouble. Germany is in trouble. All the socialist and communist states have failed or are failing.

So, if the left wins this culture war, all of the lefties will eventually end up rioting in the streets because they lost their benefits or free food or free rent or whatever. Whats the saying? "Eventually you run out of other people's money."?

So, the lefties know they've latched onto a failed philosophy. So, win or lose, they end up losing either way.

And before some bitter, whining lefties start crying "OH YEAH well how has that capitalism worked out for America, huh?"

It's worked out so good, our poor have obesity problems. So good, our minority black population would be the 5th richest nation on Earth if counted seperately. So good our "poor" on average own 2 cars, a color TV, fridge, washer and dryer, have air conditioning, microwave, cell phone, and get subsidized food, shelter and education.

Sorry lefties. If you beat us in this ideological battle, well, we're all gonna lose and end up like Greece one day. But if we win, well, we'll keep erecting crosses over top of our Wal-Marts and driving pickup trucks, while you still lose. Either way, you lose!

I'm thankful and grateful to live in a country where the poorest among us can be fat and have stuff.

 

[editec]

I see now why leftists are so angry and bitter all the time. Their ideology is a guaranteed loss. How? Let me explain.

If the right wins in elections or talking points, the left loses. Thats a loss. Easy enough.

But if the left wins? Well, we are seeing time and time again throughout society where socialism and communism have failed. The entitlement lifestyle always fails. Greece is a perfect example. The USSR. North Korea. Cuba. Venezuela. If Canada had to spend money on national defense, they'd be in trouble to. Luckily, they got us. But, Spain is in trouble. England is in trouble. Germany is in trouble. All the socialist and communist states have failed or are failing.

So, if the left wins this culture war, all of the lefties will eventually end up rioting in the streets because they lost their benefits or free food or free rent or whatever. Whats the saying? "Eventually you run out of other people's money."?

So, the lefties know they've latched onto a failed philosophy. So, win or lose, they end up losing either way.

And before some bitter, whining lefties start crying "OH YEAH well how has that capitalism worked out for America, huh?"

It's worked out so good, our poor have obesity problems. So good, our minority black population would be the 5th richest nation on Earth if counted seperately. So good our "poor" on average own 2 cars, a color TV, fridge, washer and dryer, have air conditioning, microwave, cell phone, and get subsidized food, shelter and education.

Sorry lefties. If you beat us in this ideological battle, well, we're all gonna lose and end up like Greece one day. But if we win, well, we'll keep erecting crosses over top of our Wal-Marts and driving pickup trucks, while you still lose. Either way, you lose!

Ah but if only it were only as simple a world as you imagine it to be.

How easily we could solve our problems if that were the case.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I see now why leftists are so angry and bitter all the time.

Whew!!

How old ARE you???????

​

 

[Murf76]

Win/lose? I guess it all depends on what the ultimate reward is...

Luke 16:13-15…

[13] No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and mammon (money)

[14] The Pharisees, who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus.

[15] He said to them, "You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts. What is highly valued among men is detestable in God's sight.

The difference between Christian charity and theft... is CHOICE.

If I rob you at gunpoint, and then give your money to a beggar, you've still been mugged. And I don't think God is likely to consider the robbery as mitigating on the Day of Judgment if you've been a bastard all your life. It wouldn't be as if you'd made a personal choice to help a beggar.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Didn't we try that let the right do things their way stuff?

What did we get?

- Worst terrorism attack in US History
- Two wars one of which they lied to us to start
- Massive recession
- Destruction and ridicule of the American image abroad
- Destruction of environmentaland labor laws
- Tax cut which added $2.5 trillion to debt

- Worst terrorism attack in US History but nobody blames this on Bush

Whew!!

How old ARE you???????

​

 

[WillowTree]

come to think of it the lefites have been whining and bitching pretty much non stop since they "won, sit down and stfu, let the adults run the show, did you know we won, you are irrelevant white people" election. just saying.

 

[Murf76]

I'm thankful and grateful to live in a country where the poorest among us can be fat and have stuff.

But they're not going to be able to stay fat and have stuff when the money is gone, are they?
Once you've destroyed our capitalist system, the money dries up.

See... that's the difference between socialists and capitalists. Socialists figure that there's only so much pie and everyone should have a little slice. Capitalists understand that we can always make more pie.

 

[HUGGY]

Bucky..... The way I see it..it is people like you that depend on socialism more than any other group of americans.

The anger and the words you own suggest you live way out in the wilderness in a stone house next to a pure water spring with plentiful nutricious food at your doostep. You must be blessed with excellent heath and being a man will never suffer childbirth.

You obviously do not need any other people in your life. Except to whine to..of course.

Lucky you.

Most of the rest of America does not share your idylic life.

We unlike you frequently need to travel safely and reasonably quickly on the socialist highways. It beats blazing trails with a machete when we need to go somewhere. We do not live free from the threat of fire like youself and must all chip in for a fire department.

We do not have your beautiful sparkling spring so we must build and maintain resevoirs then pipe the water to our homes. We had to pay for this luxury.

I could go on and on but you still might not get it... In fact...never mind.....it is another day in america and you just aren't worth saving.

 

[Bfgrn]

I see now why leftists are so angry and bitter all the time. Their ideology is a guaranteed loss. How? Let me explain.

If the right wins in elections or talking points, the left loses. Thats a loss. Easy enough.

But if the left wins? Well, we are seeing time and time again throughout society where socialism and communism have failed. The entitlement lifestyle always fails. Greece is a perfect example. The USSR. North Korea. Cuba. Venezuela. If Canada had to spend money on national defense, they'd be in trouble to. Luckily, they got us. But, Spain is in trouble. England is in trouble. Germany is in trouble. All the socialist and communist states have failed or are failing.

So, if the left wins this culture war, all of the lefties will eventually end up rioting in the streets because they lost their benefits or free food or free rent or whatever. Whats the saying? "Eventually you run out of other people's money."?

So, the lefties know they've latched onto a failed philosophy. So, win or lose, they end up losing either way.

And before some bitter, whining lefties start crying "OH YEAH well how has that capitalism worked out for America, huh?"

It's worked out so good, our poor have obesity problems. So good, our minority black population would be the 5th richest nation on Earth if counted seperately. So good our "poor" on average own 2 cars, a color TV, fridge, washer and dryer, have air conditioning, microwave, cell phone, and get subsidized food, shelter and education.

Sorry lefties. If you beat us in this ideological battle, well, we're all gonna lose and end up like Greece one day. But if we win, well, we'll keep erecting crosses over top of our Wal-Marts and driving pickup trucks, while you still lose. Either way, you lose!

Ah but if only it were only as simple a world as you imagine it to be.

How easily we could solve our problems if that were the case.

But it IS simple for the right...as long as human beings evaporate, especially all those 'lazy' dependents... children, elderly and the disabled...

60000 Reichsmarks ...
this is what this person suffering from hereditary defects costs the Community of Germans during his lifetime ...
Fellow Citizen, that is your money, too

 

[Mr Natural]

I'm thankful and grateful to live in a country where the poorest among us can be fat and have stuff.

But they're not going to be able to stay fat and have stuff when the money is gone, are they?
Once you've destroyed our capitalist system, the money dries up.

See... that's the difference between socialists and capitalists. Socialists figure that there's only so much pie and everyone should have a little slice. Capitalists understand that we can always make more pie.

So you're in favor of the poor living like animals the way they do in third-world shit holes.

No thanks, you go live in your conservative utopia, I'll stick with what we have right here.

God Bless America!​

 

[Care4all]

Win/lose? I guess it all depends on what the ultimate reward is...

Luke 16:13-15…

[13] No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and mammon (money)

[14] The Pharisees, who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus.

[15] He said to them, "You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts. What is highly valued among men is detestable in God's sight.

The difference between Christian charity and theft... is CHOICE.

If I rob you at gunpoint, and then give your money to a beggar, you've still been mugged. And I don't think God is likely to consider the robbery as mitigating on the Day of Judgment if you've been a bastard all your life. It wouldn't be as if you'd made a personal choice to help a beggar.

then by all means, why in the heck don;t you CHOOSE to help our neediest fellow citizens, not getting help from your church or charity, through some of your taxes? you CHOOSE TO KILL others with your taxes, you choose to bail out the crooks who took us on Wall street, why not choose to help some of your own....? (the general you)

Choosing to help others is not suppose to stop at your church's door, you are NOT suppose to just turn in to cold wax in your secular life, is what I was taught....

Do good in all that you do.

This does not stop once you leave church or mass or synagogue or mosque or temple on sundays, fridays or saturdays....

that's my personal view on it, as a devout Christian.

Saying all of that, this does not mean that I do not see problems with our systems to take care of the neediest among us....this does not mean I do not see govt waste....but in many cases, many many many cases, charities are ineffective....where MOST or too darn much of their charity money goes towards their admin costs and salaries and overhead and waste to where 25-50 cents on the dollar you donated, makes it to the actual person in need....both systems have deficiencies....

and we need reform, all around, so that government help should focus more on education and lifting the person up through teaching them to support themselves....I agree with all that....

but with me, charity for the neediest does not stop at the church door....

care

 

[Bfgrn]

Win/lose? I guess it all depends on what the ultimate reward is...

Luke 16:13-15…

[13] No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and mammon (money)

[14] The Pharisees, who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus.

[15] He said to them, "You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts. What is highly valued among men is detestable in God's sight.

The difference between Christian charity and theft... is CHOICE.

If I rob you at gunpoint, and then give your money to a beggar, you've still been mugged. And I don't think God is likely to consider the robbery as mitigating on the Day of Judgment if you've been a bastard all your life. It wouldn't be as if you'd made a personal choice to help a beggar.

CHOICE? That's what I was getting at... God's...

He said to them, "You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts. What is highly valued among men is detestable in God's sight.

 

[Murf76]

I'm thankful and grateful to live in a country where the poorest among us can be fat and have stuff.

But they're not going to be able to stay fat and have stuff when the money is gone, are they?
Once you've destroyed our capitalist system, the money dries up.

See... that's the difference between socialists and capitalists. Socialists figure that there's only so much pie and everyone should have a little slice. Capitalists understand that we can always make more pie.

So you're in favor of the poor living like animals the way they do in third-world shit holes.

No thanks, you go live in your conservative utopia, I'll stick with what we have right here.

God Bless America!]

Reading comprehension isn't your thing, is it?

Let me simplify... you can't fund any programs to help the poor when you have NO MONEY. No capitalism = No money.

 

[Murf76]

then by all means, why in the heck don;t you CHOOSE to help our neediest fellow citizens, not getting help from your church or charity, through some of your taxes? you CHOOSE TO KILL others with your taxes, you choose to bail out the crooks who took us on Wall street, why not choose to help some of your own....? (the general you)

Choosing to help others is not suppose to stop at your church's door, you are NOT suppose to just turn in to cold wax in your secular life, is what I was taught....

Do good in all that you do.

This does not stop once you leave church or mass or synagogue or mosque or temple on sundays, fridays or saturdays....

that's my personal view on it, as a devout Christian.

Saying all of that, this does not mean that I do not see problems with our systems to take care of the neediest among us....this does not mean I do not see govt waste....but in many cases, many many many cases, charities are ineffective....where MOST or too darn much of their charity money goes towards their admin costs and salaries and overhead and waste to where 25-50 cents on the dollar you donated, makes it to the actual person in need....both systems have deficiencies....

and we need reform, all around, so that government help should focus more on education and lifting the person up through teaching them to support themselves....I agree with all that....

but with me, charity for the neediest does not stop at the church door....

care

Do not presume to know what I choose to do, or not do, in the name of charity. It makes you look hysterical.

You do NOT have the right to rob me for the sake of YOUR charitable choices. That does not make you a good Christian. It merely makes you a good THIEF.

The fucking federal government has no business engaging in "charity". There's no enumerated power for it to do so. Social welfare should come at the state level in whatever amounts the States choose to provide it. And if the federal government would stop robbing us all blind, maybe the States might be able to collect a little themselves to run their budgets on.

 

[Murf76]

Win/lose? I guess it all depends on what the ultimate reward is...

Luke 16:13-15…

[13] No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and mammon (money)

[14] The Pharisees, who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus.

[15] He said to them, "You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts. What is highly valued among men is detestable in God's sight.

The difference between Christian charity and theft... is CHOICE.

If I rob you at gunpoint, and then give your money to a beggar, you've still been mugged. And I don't think God is likely to consider the robbery as mitigating on the Day of Judgment if you've been a bastard all your life. It wouldn't be as if you'd made a personal choice to help a beggar.

CHOICE? That's what I was getting at... God's...

He said to them, "You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts. What is highly valued among men is detestable in God's sight.

An all-powerful God does not need YOU to do His mugging for Him.