Letter from my employer concerning Obamacare/Obamatax

[Bfgrn]

Oh i know.... pricing is going to go off the scale becasue of his little ponzi scheme

Everytime I see a Con saying that I just want to throw something at the computer.

Because you guys say that as if medical expenses weren't insane as is. And even if the costs aren't that bad to you, just wait a few years with medical costs rising 3x the rate of
inflation.

Stupid ass conservatives. You viciously attack Obamacare and whats your alternative? Nothing, becuase in Conservative land, no one gets sick.

Our goal was to find WHY costs were so high and to do something about it....not to find someone to simply pay the rising costs.

So we offered ideas such as more competition amongst the insurers as it is widely known that an increase in competition for market share results in lower prices to the consumer.......and less right to sue for a scar on ones toe as a result of toe surgery giving the health care professionals lower operating costs....

Stop ignoring the ideas of the GOP...they were there....presented....and ignored.

The current administration knows its supporters are poorly informed...and they are capitalizing oin it.

Curious...what is it like to support an administration that capitalizes on your lack of knowledge?

And conservatives have ignored that the current health care law is almost a carbon copy of the bill Republicans proposed back in 1993, right down to the BIG conservative idea; THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE.

And as far as the GOP presenting their ideas...they were single minded...destroy health care reform at any cost and destroy the President of the United States.

George W. Bush's former speechwriter let the truth out if the bag:

"At the beginning of this process we made a strategic decision: unlike, say, Democrats in 2001 when President Bush proposed his first tax cut, we would make no deal with the administration. No negotiations, no compromise, nothing. We were going for all the marbles. This would be Obama’s Waterloo – just as healthcare was Clinton’s in 1994."

And at the American Enterprise Institute, one of the BIG conservative think tanks that pushed the 1993 GOP plan, and who fired George W. Bush's former speechwriter for speaking that truth, their 'scholars' were ordered not to speak to the media because they agreed with too much of what Obama was trying to do.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan

 

[idb]

Oh i know.... pricing is going to go off the scale becasue of his little ponzi scheme

Everytime I see a Con saying that I just want to throw something at the computer.

Because you guys say that as if medical expenses weren't insane as is. And even if the costs aren't that bad to you, just wait a few years with medical costs rising 3x the rate of
inflation.

Stupid ass conservatives. You viciously attack Obamacare and whats your alternative? Nothing, becuase in Conservative land, no one gets sick.

Our goal was to find WHY costs were so high and to do something about it....not to find someone to simply pay the rising costs.

So we offered ideas such as more competition amongst the insurers as it is widely known that an increase in competition for market share results in lower prices to the consumer.......and less right to sue for a scar on ones toe as a result of toe surgery giving the health care professionals lower operating costs....

Stop ignoring the ideas of the GOP...they were there....presented....and ignored.

The current administration knows its supporters are poorly informed...and they are capitalizing oin it.

Curious...what is it like to support an administration that capitalizes on your lack of knowledge?

How can you say the GOP were ignored?
The AHA is based on a working example installed by a Republican governor.
They should be proud and rejoice!

 

[idb]

Everytime I see a Con saying that I just want to throw something at the computer.

Because you guys say that as if medical expenses weren't insane as is. And even if the costs aren't that bad to you, just wait a few years with medical costs rising 3x the rate of
inflation.

Stupid ass conservatives. You viciously attack Obamacare and whats your alternative? Nothing, becuase in Conservative land, no one gets sick.

Our goal was to find WHY costs were so high and to do something about it....not to find someone to simply pay the rising costs.

So we offered ideas such as more competition amongst the insurers as it is widely known that an increase in competition for market share results in lower prices to the consumer.......and less right to sue for a scar on ones toe as a result of toe surgery giving the health care professionals lower operating costs....

Stop ignoring the ideas of the GOP...they were there....presented....and ignored.

The current administration knows its supporters are poorly informed...and they are capitalizing oin it.

Curious...what is it like to support an administration that capitalizes on your lack of knowledge?

And conservatives have ignored that the current health care law is almost a carbon copy of the bill Republicans proposed back in 1993, right down to the BIG conservative idea; THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE.

And as far as the GOP presenting their ideas...they were single minded...destroy health care reform at any cost and destroy the President of the United States.

George W. Bush's former speechwriter let the truth out if the bag:

"At the beginning of this process we made a strategic decision: unlike, say, Democrats in 2001 when President Bush proposed his first tax cut, we would make no deal with the administration. No negotiations, no compromise, nothing. We were going for all the marbles. This would be Obama’s Waterloo – just as healthcare was Clinton’s in 1994."

And at the American Enterprise Institute, one of the BIG conservative think tanks that pushed the 1993 GOP plan, and who fired George W. Bush's former speechwriter for speaking that truth, their 'scholars' were ordered not to speak to the media because they agreed with too much of what Obama was trying to do.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Step forward Mr McConnell..."the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

 

[daveman]

Our goal was to find WHY costs were so high and to do something about it....not to find someone to simply pay the rising costs.

So we offered ideas such as more competition amongst the insurers as it is widely known that an increase in competition for market share results in lower prices to the consumer.......and less right to sue for a scar on ones toe as a result of toe surgery giving the health care professionals lower operating costs....

Stop ignoring the ideas of the GOP...they were there....presented....and ignored.

The current administration knows its supporters are poorly informed...and they are capitalizing oin it.

Curious...what is it like to support an administration that capitalizes on your lack of knowledge?

And conservatives have ignored that the current health care law is almost a carbon copy of the bill Republicans proposed back in 1993, right down to the BIG conservative idea; THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE.

And as far as the GOP presenting their ideas...they were single minded...destroy health care reform at any cost and destroy the President of the United States.

George W. Bush's former speechwriter let the truth out if the bag:

"At the beginning of this process we made a strategic decision: unlike, say, Democrats in 2001 when President Bush proposed his first tax cut, we would make no deal with the administration. No negotiations, no compromise, nothing. We were going for all the marbles. This would be Obama’s Waterloo – just as healthcare was Clinton’s in 1994."

And at the American Enterprise Institute, one of the BIG conservative think tanks that pushed the 1993 GOP plan, and who fired George W. Bush's former speechwriter for speaking that truth, their 'scholars' were ordered not to speak to the media because they agreed with too much of what Obama was trying to do.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Step forward Mr McConnell..."the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

That would be great for America.

 

[idb]

And conservatives have ignored that the current health care law is almost a carbon copy of the bill Republicans proposed back in 1993, right down to the BIG conservative idea; THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE.

And as far as the GOP presenting their ideas...they were single minded...destroy health care reform at any cost and destroy the President of the United States.

George W. Bush's former speechwriter let the truth out if the bag:

"At the beginning of this process we made a strategic decision: unlike, say, Democrats in 2001 when President Bush proposed his first tax cut, we would make no deal with the administration. No negotiations, no compromise, nothing. We were going for all the marbles. This would be Obama’s Waterloo – just as healthcare was Clinton’s in 1994."

And at the American Enterprise Institute, one of the BIG conservative think tanks that pushed the 1993 GOP plan, and who fired George W. Bush's former speechwriter for speaking that truth, their 'scholars' were ordered not to speak to the media because they agreed with too much of what Obama was trying to do.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Step forward Mr McConnell..."the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

That would be great for America.

By conducting a scorched earth policy?

 

[daveman]

Step forward Mr McConnell..."the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

That would be great for America.

By conducting a scorched earth policy?

"...the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

 

[idb]

That would be great for America.

By conducting a scorched earth policy?

"...the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

Don't you find that chilling?
What about..."the single most important thing we want to achieve is to lift the US economy out of the mess it's in and ease the burden of those honest hardworking Americans caught up in a global and national disaster that is not of their making."?

 

[daveman]

By conducting a scorched earth policy?

"...the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

Don't you find that chilling?
What about..."the single most important thing we want to achieve is to lift the US economy out of the mess it's in and ease the burden of those honest hardworking Americans caught up in a global and national disaster that is not of their making."?

The GOP's trying, but the Dem-controlled Senate and Obama won't let them. So it looks like power is more important to Democrats than the nation is.

Meanwhile, removing Obama from power so he can't do any more damage is the first step to repairing the damage he's done.

 

[hortysir]

By conducting a scorched earth policy?

"...the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

Don't you find that chilling?
What about..."the single most important thing we want to achieve is to lift the US economy out of the mess it's in and ease the burden of those honest hardworking Americans caught up in a global and national disaster that is not of their making."?

There is an order to things.
We can't accomplish your statement without, first, fulfilling idb's

 

[The T]

"...the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

Don't you find that chilling?
What about..."the single most important thing we want to achieve is to lift the US economy out of the mess it's in and ease the burden of those honest hardworking Americans caught up in a global and national disaster that is not of their making."?

The GOP's trying, but the Dem-controlled Senate and Obama won't let them. So it looks like power is more important to Democrats than the nation is.

Meanwhile, removing Obama from power so he can't do any more damage is the first step to repairing the damage he's done.

First priority of any TRUE American.

 

[idb]

"...the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

Don't you find that chilling?
What about..."the single most important thing we want to achieve is to lift the US economy out of the mess it's in and ease the burden of those honest hardworking Americans caught up in a global and national disaster that is not of their making."?

The GOP's trying, but the Dem-controlled Senate and Obama won't let them. So it looks like power is more important to Democrats than the nation is.

Meanwhile, removing Obama from power so he can't do any more damage is the first step to repairing the damage he's done.

Yeah sure, the Republicans alone are trying to work co-operatively with the other side in the best interests of the country.

 

[Bfgrn]

Don't you find that chilling?
What about..."the single most important thing we want to achieve is to lift the US economy out of the mess it's in and ease the burden of those honest hardworking Americans caught up in a global and national disaster that is not of their making."?

The GOP's trying, but the Dem-controlled Senate and Obama won't let them. So it looks like power is more important to Democrats than the nation is.

Meanwhile, removing Obama from power so he can't do any more damage is the first step to repairing the damage he's done.

Yeah sure, the Republicans alone are trying to work co-operatively with the other side in the best interests of the country.

Republicans already admitted that the country can suffer, just as long as THEY re-gain power. They don't consider Obama the legitimate President of the United States. What they did during the health care debate should earn them permanent censure by We, the People. But their mindless followers just keep parroting their lies day and night on this board.

 

[daveman]

Don't you find that chilling?
What about..."the single most important thing we want to achieve is to lift the US economy out of the mess it's in and ease the burden of those honest hardworking Americans caught up in a global and national disaster that is not of their making."?

The GOP's trying, but the Dem-controlled Senate and Obama won't let them. So it looks like power is more important to Democrats than the nation is.

Meanwhile, removing Obama from power so he can't do any more damage is the first step to repairing the damage he's done.

Yeah sure, the Republicans alone are trying to work co-operatively with the other side in the best interests of the country.

Not what I said. But considering the Democrats are refusing to allow GOP bills to come up for Senate debate because one of them might work and the GOP would get the credit, it's plain that the Dems are putting politics ahead of the nation.

 

[daveman]

The GOP's trying, but the Dem-controlled Senate and Obama won't let them. So it looks like power is more important to Democrats than the nation is.

Meanwhile, removing Obama from power so he can't do any more damage is the first step to repairing the damage he's done.

Yeah sure, the Republicans alone are trying to work co-operatively with the other side in the best interests of the country.

Republicans already admitted that the country can suffer, just as long as THEY re-gain power. They don't consider Obama the legitimate President of the United States. What they did during the health care debate should earn them permanent censure by We, the People. But their mindless followers just keep parroting their lies day and night on this board.

Oh, you mean health care debate like "we have to pass it before we can know what's in it"? That kind of debate?

NOTE: Telling the truth about liberals is not a lie, no matter how much you stamp your feet.

 

[Bfgrn]

Yeah sure, the Republicans alone are trying to work co-operatively with the other side in the best interests of the country.

Republicans already admitted that the country can suffer, just as long as THEY re-gain power. They don't consider Obama the legitimate President of the United States. What they did during the health care debate should earn them permanent censure by We, the People. But their mindless followers just keep parroting their lies day and night on this board.

Oh, you mean health care debate like "we have to pass it before we can know what's in it"? That kind of debate?

NOTE: Telling the truth about liberals is not a lie, no matter how much you stamp your feet.

Thank you for parroting right wing propaganda on cue.

No, I mean THIS:

What do you call what Republicans have done since Obama was elected President?

• What about Republican leaders and officials who got together during Obama's inauguration in the infamous, secret pact meeting to vow to destroy him at all costs—including the cost to the country?

• What about what Republicans did during the health care debate later revealed by George W. Bush's former speechwriter?

"At the beginning of this process we made a strategic decision: unlike, say, Democrats in 2001 when President Bush proposed his first tax cut, we would make no deal with the administration. No negotiations, no compromise, nothing. We were going for all the marbles. This would be Obama’s Waterloo – just as healthcare was Clinton’s in 1994."

• What about the use of INSURGENCY by House Republicans?

Insurgency

Friday, February 6, 2009

Texas Republican Congressman Pete Sessions compares GOP strategy to Taliban insurgency

"Insurgency, we understand perhaps a little bit more because of the Taliban, and that is that they went about systematically understanding how to disrupt and change a person's entire processes. And these Taliban -- I'm not trying to say the Republican Party is the Taliban. No, that's not what we're saying. I'm saying an example of how you go about [sic] is to change a person from their messaging to their operations to their frontline message. And we need to understand that insurgency may be required when the other side, the House leadership, does not follow the same commands, which we entered the game with."

Congressman Pete Sessions Compares House Republicans To Taliban | Capitol Annex

 

[francoHFW]

Those Pub "jobs bills" are pure electioneering BS that would have no effect for years- all either polluting or screwing workers rights- designed only for propaganda .

Pelosi meant the bill had to be implemented to be understood. No dupes understand it yet- that's for sure.

 

[theliq]

It will just like all other nationalized health care countries.... you pay for national shit plan...and pay for the premium plan you want that will provide you with the care and standards you are used to having.

And in time prices for everything else will rise, just as they did in Canada... Because the money has to come from somewhere. The working class won't be able to foot the entire Bill.

Oh i know.... pricing is going to go off the scale becasue of his little ponzi scheme

Really Sy,You are somewhat myopic on this matter,we find it incredible you do not have universal health care.But then by most 1st world standard,America seems 3rd world in anything that helps the whole nation.steve

 

[theliq]

Republicans already admitted that the country can suffer, just as long as THEY re-gain power. They don't consider Obama the legitimate President of the United States. What they did during the health care debate should earn them permanent censure by We, the People. But their mindless followers just keep parroting their lies day and night on this board.

Oh, you mean health care debate like "we have to pass it before we can know what's in it"? That kind of debate?

NOTE: Telling the truth about liberals is not a lie, no matter how much you stamp your feet.

Thank you for parroting right wing propaganda on cue.

No, I mean THIS:

What do you call what Republicans have done since Obama was elected President?

• What about Republican leaders and officials who got together during Obama's inauguration in the infamous, secret pact meeting to vow to destroy him at all costs—including the cost to the country?

• What about what Republicans did during the health care debate later revealed by George W. Bush's former speechwriter?

"At the beginning of this process we made a strategic decision: unlike, say, Democrats in 2001 when President Bush proposed his first tax cut, we would make no deal with the administration. No negotiations, no compromise, nothing. We were going for all the marbles. This would be Obama’s Waterloo – just as healthcare was Clinton’s in 1994."

• What about the use of INSURGENCY by House Republicans?

Insurgency

Friday, February 6, 2009

Texas Republican Congressman Pete Sessions compares GOP strategy to Taliban insurgency

"Insurgency, we understand perhaps a little bit more because of the Taliban, and that is that they went about systematically understanding how to disrupt and change a person's entire processes. And these Taliban -- I'm not trying to say the Republican Party is the Taliban. No, that's not what we're saying. I'm saying an example of how you go about [sic] is to change a person from their messaging to their operations to their frontline message. And we need to understand that insurgency may be required when the other side, the House leadership, does not follow the same commands, which we entered the game with."

Congressman Pete Sessions Compares House Republicans To Taliban | Capitol Annex

SAY NO TO NUTS

 

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The reason I post this, is because every time I hear a moron liberal who claims you wont be affected at all unless you do not have a plan, I want to throw something at the TV, radio, or computer screen.
I've been around the block a few times, and you cannot sit there and tell me I wont be affected no matter what. This is a whole new entitlement program that will have it's own burecracy of the federal government. Ever know one of those that do anything but grow ?

Wont affect me or you my ass ! Just wait a few years dumbasses !

You know, instead of waiting around till 2018, you could just find out what the law actually says, right?


Do you need me to find out for you?

Or would only a moron liberal resort to factual reality in place of fearmongering?

 

[daveman]

Republicans already admitted that the country can suffer, just as long as THEY re-gain power. They don't consider Obama the legitimate President of the United States. What they did during the health care debate should earn them permanent censure by We, the People. But their mindless followers just keep parroting their lies day and night on this board.

Oh, you mean health care debate like "we have to pass it before we can know what's in it"? That kind of debate?

NOTE: Telling the truth about liberals is not a lie, no matter how much you stamp your feet.

Thank you for parroting right wing propaganda on cue.

Telling the truth about liberals is not right wing propaganda, although I understand you've been programmed to say that.

No, I mean THIS:

What do you call what Republicans have done since Obama was elected President?

• What about Republican leaders and officials who got together during Obama's inauguration in the infamous, secret pact meeting to vow to destroy him at all costs—including the cost to the country?

• What about what Republicans did during the health care debate later revealed by George W. Bush's former speechwriter?

"At the beginning of this process we made a strategic decision: unlike, say, Democrats in 2001 when President Bush proposed his first tax cut, we would make no deal with the administration. No negotiations, no compromise, nothing. We were going for all the marbles. This would be Obama’s Waterloo – just as healthcare was Clinton’s in 1994."

• What about the use of INSURGENCY by House Republicans?

Insurgency

Friday, February 6, 2009

Texas Republican Congressman Pete Sessions compares GOP strategy to Taliban insurgency

"Insurgency, we understand perhaps a little bit more because of the Taliban, and that is that they went about systematically understanding how to disrupt and change a person's entire processes. And these Taliban -- I'm not trying to say the Republican Party is the Taliban. No, that's not what we're saying. I'm saying an example of how you go about [sic] is to change a person from their messaging to their operations to their frontline message. And we need to understand that insurgency may be required when the other side, the House leadership, does not follow the same commands, which we entered the game with."

Congressman Pete Sessions Compares House Republicans To Taliban | Capitol Annex

You seem to be confused. You actually think the GOP is obligated to rubber-stamp Obama's agenda.

The GOP works for their constituents, not for the President.