Let's talk about the National Debt

[Wry Catcher]

First, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and our policy of foreign intervention has greatly contributed to the amount of money we owe; cutting taxes at a time of war and the Great Recession exacerbated a long term and growing issue.

The debt will come down, once we elect a fiscally responsible Congress. Note, fiscal conservatism and austerity are not solutions, they are political talking points. Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Borrowing and the Federal Debt

Whining about the national debt is one more wedge issue, a talking point by the Republican Party (and callow posters who parrot the current meme) who contributed greatly to the problem and now want to point fingers at President Obama. That's one more BIG LIE by the Party of Grover Limbaugh.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

First, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and our policy of foreign intervention has greatly contributed to the amount of money we owe; cutting taxes at a time of war and the Great Recession exacerbated a long term and growing issue.

The debt will come down, once we elect a fiscally responsible Congress. Note, fiscal conservatism and austerity are not solutions, they are political talking points. Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Borrowing and the Federal Debt

Whining about the national debt is one more wedge issue, a talking point by the Republican Party (and callow posters who parrot the current meme) who contributed greatly to the problem and now want to point fingers at President Obama. That's one more BIG LIE by the Party of Grover Limbaugh.

Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Excellent idea! Let's cut spending back to 2007 levels.
Then we'll look at tax hikes.

 

[Missourian]

Exactly. I'm not opposed to raising taxes...as long as the cuts come first.

When we do it the other way, the new taxes are enforced, but the proposed cuts evaporate.

Pick a target...if it's 2007 spending levels...that would be fine...when we reach that goal, new taxes kick in that go solely to reducing the debt...not new spending.

 

[hangover]

First, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and our policy of foreign intervention has greatly contributed to the amount of money we owe; cutting taxes at a time of war and the Great Recession exacerbated a long term and growing issue.

The debt will come down, once we elect a fiscally responsible Congress. Note, fiscal conservatism and austerity are not solutions, they are political talking points. Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Borrowing and the Federal Debt

Whining about the national debt is one more wedge issue, a talking point by the Republican Party (and callow posters who parrot the current meme) who contributed greatly to the problem and now want to point fingers at President Obama. That's one more BIG LIE by the Party of Grover Limbaugh.

Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Excellent idea! Let's cut spending back to 2007 levels.
Then we'll look at tax hikes.

Better yet, let's go back to before when Raygun cut corporate taxes in half. Let's go back to when corporate taxes were 90%. THAT ALONE WILL PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT IN TEN YEARS. If the national debt is ever going to get paid, that is how it must be done, because corporations and the 1%ers have all the money, not the peasants, which is the rest of us.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

First, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and our policy of foreign intervention has greatly contributed to the amount of money we owe; cutting taxes at a time of war and the Great Recession exacerbated a long term and growing issue.

The debt will come down, once we elect a fiscally responsible Congress. Note, fiscal conservatism and austerity are not solutions, they are political talking points. Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Borrowing and the Federal Debt

Whining about the national debt is one more wedge issue, a talking point by the Republican Party (and callow posters who parrot the current meme) who contributed greatly to the problem and now want to point fingers at President Obama. That's one more BIG LIE by the Party of Grover Limbaugh.

Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Excellent idea! Let's cut spending back to 2007 levels.
Then we'll look at tax hikes.

Better yet, let's go back to before when Raygun cut corporate taxes in half. Let's go back to when corporate taxes were 90%. THAT ALONE WILL PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT IN TEN YEARS. If the national debt is ever going to get paid, that is how it must be done, because corporations and the 1%ers have all the money, not the peasants, which is the rest of us.

Better yet, let's go back to before when Raygun cut corporate taxes in half.

He did no such thing.

Let's go back to when corporate taxes were 90%.

They were never anywhere close to that high.

THAT ALONE WILL PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT IN TEN YEARS.

Yes, driving all your employers away is the quickest path to paying off your debt.
Have you always been this stupid, or did it take lots of practice?

If you'd like to educate yourself, the below link might help.

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/Content/PDF/corporate_historical_bracket.pdf

 

[Wry Catcher]

First, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and our policy of foreign intervention has greatly contributed to the amount of money we owe; cutting taxes at a time of war and the Great Recession exacerbated a long term and growing issue.

The debt will come down, once we elect a fiscally responsible Congress. Note, fiscal conservatism and austerity are not solutions, they are political talking points. Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Borrowing and the Federal Debt

Whining about the national debt is one more wedge issue, a talking point by the Republican Party (and callow posters who parrot the current meme) who contributed greatly to the problem and now want to point fingers at President Obama. That's one more BIG LIE by the Party of Grover Limbaugh.

Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Excellent idea! Let's cut spending back to 2007 levels.
Then we'll look at tax hikes.

NO! The Tax cuts were one of the two events which created our current problem; even Reagan and Bush I raised taxes when necessary. Grover Norquist and his cut, cut, cut taxes ideology is insane. Reality gets in the way of ideology every time.

Cutting spending requires discipline, compromise and establishing priorities. Something no Congress in recent memory has every exhibited.

My idea is this:

• Repeal the 22nd Amendment; Change the term to six years; POTUS can only serve once;
• Amend Art. II and give POTUS the line-item veto; which like any veto can be overridden by the same vote in Congress as for any other veto.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

First, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and our policy of foreign intervention has greatly contributed to the amount of money we owe; cutting taxes at a time of war and the Great Recession exacerbated a long term and growing issue.

The debt will come down, once we elect a fiscally responsible Congress. Note, fiscal conservatism and austerity are not solutions, they are political talking points. Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Borrowing and the Federal Debt

Whining about the national debt is one more wedge issue, a talking point by the Republican Party (and callow posters who parrot the current meme) who contributed greatly to the problem and now want to point fingers at President Obama. That's one more BIG LIE by the Party of Grover Limbaugh.

Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Excellent idea! Let's cut spending back to 2007 levels.
Then we'll look at tax hikes.

NO! The Tax cuts were one of the two events which created our current problem; even Reagan and Bush I raised taxes when necessary. Grover Norquist and his cut, cut, cut taxes ideology is insane. Reality gets in the way of ideology every time.

Cutting spending requires discipline, compromise and establishing priorities. Something no Congress in recent memory has every exhibited.

My idea is this:

• Repeal the 22nd Amendment; Change the term to six years; POTUS can only serve once;
• Amend Art. II and give POTUS the line-item veto; which like any veto can be overridden by the same vote in Congress as for any other veto.

The Tax cuts were one of the two events which created our current problem;

What is our current problem?
Why did the tax cuts create it?

Grover Norquist and his cut, cut, cut taxes ideology is insane.

And so is the liberal idealogy of raise taxes and raise spending more.

Cutting spending requires discipline, compromise and establishing priorities. Something no Congress in recent memory has every exhibited.


And this makes you want to give them more tax revenues?

Amend Art. II and give POTUS the line-item veto; which like any veto can be overridden by the same vote in Congress as for any other veto.

Sounds good. Add term limits for Congress and privatizing Social Security.

 

[hangover]

First, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and our policy of foreign intervention has greatly contributed to the amount of money we owe; cutting taxes at a time of war and the Great Recession exacerbated a long term and growing issue.

The debt will come down, once we elect a fiscally responsible Congress. Note, fiscal conservatism and austerity are not solutions, they are political talking points. Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Borrowing and the Federal Debt

Whining about the national debt is one more wedge issue, a talking point by the Republican Party (and callow posters who parrot the current meme) who contributed greatly to the problem and now want to point fingers at President Obama. That's one more BIG LIE by the Party of Grover Limbaugh.

Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Excellent idea! Let's cut spending back to 2007 levels.
Then we'll look at tax hikes.

Better yet, let's go back to before when Raygun cut corporate taxes in half. Let's go back to when corporate taxes were 90%. THAT ALONE WILL PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT IN TEN YEARS. If the national debt is ever going to get paid, that is how it must be done, because corporations and the 1%ers have all the money, not the peasants, which is the rest of us.

Better yet, let's go back to before when Raygun cut corporate taxes in half.

He did no such thing.

Let's go back to when corporate taxes were 90%.

They were never anywhere close to that high.

THAT ALONE WILL PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT IN TEN YEARS.

Yes, driving all your employers away is the quickest path to paying off your debt.
Have you always been this stupid, or did it take lots of practice?

If you'd like to educate yourself, the below link might help.

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/Content/PDF/corporate_historical_bracket.pdf

Top Federal Income Tax Rate Was Once Over 90 Percent Tax Foundation

Economists Say We Should Tax The Rich At 90 Percent

Reagan pushed through sweeping tax cuts, slashing the top rate from 70.1 percent to 28.4 percent, and the lowest rate from 14 percent to 11 percent.

Read more here: The end of voodoo GOP changes Reagan approach to tax cuts The Sacramento Bee

I concede that corporate tax rates weren't 90%, it was income tax rates that were 90%.
But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich. And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

But we all know that corporations have all the money. And it's corporations that own the politicians too. With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

Less revenue, bigger deficits.

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did. There are no poor in congress.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

First, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and our policy of foreign intervention has greatly contributed to the amount of money we owe; cutting taxes at a time of war and the Great Recession exacerbated a long term and growing issue.

The debt will come down, once we elect a fiscally responsible Congress. Note, fiscal conservatism and austerity are not solutions, they are political talking points. Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Borrowing and the Federal Debt

Whining about the national debt is one more wedge issue, a talking point by the Republican Party (and callow posters who parrot the current meme) who contributed greatly to the problem and now want to point fingers at President Obama. That's one more BIG LIE by the Party of Grover Limbaugh.

Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Excellent idea! Let's cut spending back to 2007 levels.
Then we'll look at tax hikes.

Better yet, let's go back to before when Raygun cut corporate taxes in half. Let's go back to when corporate taxes were 90%. THAT ALONE WILL PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT IN TEN YEARS. If the national debt is ever going to get paid, that is how it must be done, because corporations and the 1%ers have all the money, not the peasants, which is the rest of us.

Better yet, let's go back to before when Raygun cut corporate taxes in half.

He did no such thing.

Let's go back to when corporate taxes were 90%.

They were never anywhere close to that high.

THAT ALONE WILL PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT IN TEN YEARS.

Yes, driving all your employers away is the quickest path to paying off your debt.
Have you always been this stupid, or did it take lots of practice?

If you'd like to educate yourself, the below link might help.

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/Content/PDF/corporate_historical_bracket.pdf

Top Federal Income Tax Rate Was Once Over 90 Percent Tax Foundation

Economists Say We Should Tax The Rich At 90 Percent

Reagan pushed through sweeping tax cuts, slashing the top rate from 70.1 percent to 28.4 percent, and the lowest rate from 14 percent to 11 percent.

Read more here: The end of voodoo GOP changes Reagan approach to tax cuts The Sacramento Bee

I concede that corporate tax rates weren't 90%, it was income tax rates that were 90%.
But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich. And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

But we all know that corporations have all the money. And it's corporations that own the politicians too. With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

Less revenue, bigger deficits.

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did. There are no poor in congress.

I concede that corporate tax rates weren't 90%

Excellent! You've probably been pushing that error for decades.

But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich.

It's true, he cut income tax rates for everybody.

And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

It's true, friends of Obama get reduced taxes. Those "Green Energy" loopholes are very lucrative for Obama's donors.

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did.

I know, those rich big spenders in Congress are awful!

 

[hangover]

First, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and our policy of foreign intervention has greatly contributed to the amount of money we owe; cutting taxes at a time of war and the Great Recession exacerbated a long term and growing issue.

The debt will come down, once we elect a fiscally responsible Congress. Note, fiscal conservatism and austerity are not solutions, they are political talking points. Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Borrowing and the Federal Debt

Whining about the national debt is one more wedge issue, a talking point by the Republican Party (and callow posters who parrot the current meme) who contributed greatly to the problem and now want to point fingers at President Obama. That's one more BIG LIE by the Party of Grover Limbaugh.

Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Excellent idea! Let's cut spending back to 2007 levels.
Then we'll look at tax hikes.

Better yet, let's go back to before when Raygun cut corporate taxes in half. Let's go back to when corporate taxes were 90%. THAT ALONE WILL PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT IN TEN YEARS. If the national debt is ever going to get paid, that is how it must be done, because corporations and the 1%ers have all the money, not the peasants, which is the rest of us.

Better yet, let's go back to before when Raygun cut corporate taxes in half.

He did no such thing.

Let's go back to when corporate taxes were 90%.

They were never anywhere close to that high.

THAT ALONE WILL PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT IN TEN YEARS.

Yes, driving all your employers away is the quickest path to paying off your debt.
Have you always been this stupid, or did it take lots of practice?

If you'd like to educate yourself, the below link might help.

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/Content/PDF/corporate_historical_bracket.pdf

Top Federal Income Tax Rate Was Once Over 90 Percent Tax Foundation

Economists Say We Should Tax The Rich At 90 Percent

Reagan pushed through sweeping tax cuts, slashing the top rate from 70.1 percent to 28.4 percent, and the lowest rate from 14 percent to 11 percent.

Read more here: The end of voodoo GOP changes Reagan approach to tax cuts The Sacramento Bee

I concede that corporate tax rates weren't 90%, it was income tax rates that were 90%.
But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich. And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

But we all know that corporations have all the money. And it's corporations that own the politicians too. With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

Less revenue, bigger deficits.

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did. There are no poor in congress.

I concede that corporate tax rates weren't 90%

Excellent! You've probably been pushing that error for decades.

But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich.

It's true, he cut income tax rates for everybody.

And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

It's true, friends of Obama get reduced taxes. Those "Green Energy" loopholes are very lucrative for Obama's donors.

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did.

I know, those rich big spenders in Congress are awful!

But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich.

It's true, he cut income tax rates for everybody.

That tax rate was "for the rich" and it's still over half.

And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

You've probably been telling that lie since Raygun.

With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

It's true, friends of Obama get reduced taxes. Those "Green Energy" loopholes are very lucrative for Obama's donors.

You trying to tell us big oil and war machine contractors don't do that?

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did.

I know, those rich big spenders in Congress are awful!

Yeah, those GOP war mongers wasted $3 trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan. But their buddies Halliburton got a trillion of it. And think of all the kickbacks those cons get from big oil from lobbyists and campaign contributions.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Excellent idea! Let's cut spending back to 2007 levels.
Then we'll look at tax hikes.

Better yet, let's go back to before when Raygun cut corporate taxes in half. Let's go back to when corporate taxes were 90%. THAT ALONE WILL PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT IN TEN YEARS. If the national debt is ever going to get paid, that is how it must be done, because corporations and the 1%ers have all the money, not the peasants, which is the rest of us.

Better yet, let's go back to before when Raygun cut corporate taxes in half.

He did no such thing.

Let's go back to when corporate taxes were 90%.

They were never anywhere close to that high.

THAT ALONE WILL PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT IN TEN YEARS.

Yes, driving all your employers away is the quickest path to paying off your debt.
Have you always been this stupid, or did it take lots of practice?

If you'd like to educate yourself, the below link might help.

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/Content/PDF/corporate_historical_bracket.pdf

Top Federal Income Tax Rate Was Once Over 90 Percent Tax Foundation

Economists Say We Should Tax The Rich At 90 Percent

Reagan pushed through sweeping tax cuts, slashing the top rate from 70.1 percent to 28.4 percent, and the lowest rate from 14 percent to 11 percent.

Read more here: The end of voodoo GOP changes Reagan approach to tax cuts The Sacramento Bee

I concede that corporate tax rates weren't 90%, it was income tax rates that were 90%.
But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich. And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

But we all know that corporations have all the money. And it's corporations that own the politicians too. With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

Less revenue, bigger deficits.

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did. There are no poor in congress.

I concede that corporate tax rates weren't 90%

Excellent! You've probably been pushing that error for decades.

But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich.

It's true, he cut income tax rates for everybody.

And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

It's true, friends of Obama get reduced taxes. Those "Green Energy" loopholes are very lucrative for Obama's donors.

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did.

I know, those rich big spenders in Congress are awful!

But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich.

It's true, he cut income tax rates for everybody.

That tax rate was "for the rich" and it's still over half.

And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

You've probably been telling that lie since Raygun.

With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

It's true, friends of Obama get reduced taxes. Those "Green Energy" loopholes are very lucrative for Obama's donors.

You trying to tell us big oil and war machine contractors don't do that?

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did.

I know, those rich big spenders in Congress are awful!

Yeah, those GOP war mongers wasted $3 trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan. But their buddies Halliburton got a trillion of it. And think of all the kickbacks those cons get from big oil from lobbyists and campaign contributions.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

You've probably been telling that lie since Raygun.

1980 517,112
1981 599,272
1982 617,766
1983 600,562
1984 666,438
1985 734,037
1986 769,155
1987 854,287
1988 909,238
1989 991,104
Total revenues went from $517 billion in 1980, to $991 billion in 1989.

You trying to tell us big oil and war machine contractors don't do that?

They get loopholes from Obama? Bastards!

 

[Wry Catcher]

First, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and our policy of foreign intervention has greatly contributed to the amount of money we owe; cutting taxes at a time of war and the Great Recession exacerbated a long term and growing issue.

The debt will come down, once we elect a fiscally responsible Congress. Note, fiscal conservatism and austerity are not solutions, they are political talking points. Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Borrowing and the Federal Debt

Whining about the national debt is one more wedge issue, a talking point by the Republican Party (and callow posters who parrot the current meme) who contributed greatly to the problem and now want to point fingers at President Obama. That's one more BIG LIE by the Party of Grover Limbaugh.

Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Excellent idea! Let's cut spending back to 2007 levels.
Then we'll look at tax hikes.

NO! The Tax cuts were one of the two events which created our current problem; even Reagan and Bush I raised taxes when necessary. Grover Norquist and his cut, cut, cut taxes ideology is insane. Reality gets in the way of ideology every time.

Cutting spending requires discipline, compromise and establishing priorities. Something no Congress in recent memory has every exhibited.

My idea is this:

• Repeal the 22nd Amendment; Change the term to six years; POTUS can only serve once;
• Amend Art. II and give POTUS the line-item veto; which like any veto can be overridden by the same vote in Congress as for any other veto.

The Tax cuts were one of the two events which created our current problem;

What is our current problem?
Why did the tax cuts create it?

Grover Norquist and his cut, cut, cut taxes ideology is insane.

And so is the liberal idealogy of raise taxes and raise spending more.

Cutting spending requires discipline, compromise and establishing priorities. Something no Congress in recent memory has every exhibited.


And this makes you want to give them more tax revenues?

Amend Art. II and give POTUS the line-item veto; which like any veto can be overridden by the same vote in Congress as for any other veto.

Sounds good. Add term limits for Congress and privatizing Social Security.

The current problem is the debt, but in fact it's not a serious problem.
Why did tax cuts create it? Duh, less revenue and more spending (how much per month did the Iraq war cost?)

Tax and spend liberals is a cliche, and a talking point without valid evidence that only Democrats spend like drunken Marines.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

First, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and our policy of foreign intervention has greatly contributed to the amount of money we owe; cutting taxes at a time of war and the Great Recession exacerbated a long term and growing issue.

The debt will come down, once we elect a fiscally responsible Congress. Note, fiscal conservatism and austerity are not solutions, they are political talking points. Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Borrowing and the Federal Debt

Whining about the national debt is one more wedge issue, a talking point by the Republican Party (and callow posters who parrot the current meme) who contributed greatly to the problem and now want to point fingers at President Obama. That's one more BIG LIE by the Party of Grover Limbaugh.

Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Excellent idea! Let's cut spending back to 2007 levels.
Then we'll look at tax hikes.

NO! The Tax cuts were one of the two events which created our current problem; even Reagan and Bush I raised taxes when necessary. Grover Norquist and his cut, cut, cut taxes ideology is insane. Reality gets in the way of ideology every time.

Cutting spending requires discipline, compromise and establishing priorities. Something no Congress in recent memory has every exhibited.

My idea is this:

• Repeal the 22nd Amendment; Change the term to six years; POTUS can only serve once;
• Amend Art. II and give POTUS the line-item veto; which like any veto can be overridden by the same vote in Congress as for any other veto.

The Tax cuts were one of the two events which created our current problem;

What is our current problem?
Why did the tax cuts create it?

Grover Norquist and his cut, cut, cut taxes ideology is insane.

And so is the liberal idealogy of raise taxes and raise spending more.

Cutting spending requires discipline, compromise and establishing priorities. Something no Congress in recent memory has every exhibited.


And this makes you want to give them more tax revenues?

Amend Art. II and give POTUS the line-item veto; which like any veto can be overridden by the same vote in Congress as for any other veto.

Sounds good. Add term limits for Congress and privatizing Social Security.

The current problem is the debt, but in fact it's not a serious problem.
Why did tax cuts create it? Duh, less revenue and more spending (how much per month did the Iraq war cost?)

Tax and spend liberals is a cliche, and a talking point without valid evidence that only Democrats spend like drunken Marines.

Why did tax cuts create it? Duh, less revenue and more spending

Obama fixed the Bush economy, won the wars and raised taxes on the rich.
Let's cut spending to 2007 levels and balance the budget already.

 

[hangover]

Better yet, let's go back to before when Raygun cut corporate taxes in half. Let's go back to when corporate taxes were 90%. THAT ALONE WILL PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT IN TEN YEARS. If the national debt is ever going to get paid, that is how it must be done, because corporations and the 1%ers have all the money, not the peasants, which is the rest of us.

Better yet, let's go back to before when Raygun cut corporate taxes in half.

He did no such thing.

Let's go back to when corporate taxes were 90%.

They were never anywhere close to that high.

THAT ALONE WILL PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT IN TEN YEARS.

Yes, driving all your employers away is the quickest path to paying off your debt.
Have you always been this stupid, or did it take lots of practice?

If you'd like to educate yourself, the below link might help.

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/Content/PDF/corporate_historical_bracket.pdf

Top Federal Income Tax Rate Was Once Over 90 Percent Tax Foundation

Economists Say We Should Tax The Rich At 90 Percent

Reagan pushed through sweeping tax cuts, slashing the top rate from 70.1 percent to 28.4 percent, and the lowest rate from 14 percent to 11 percent.

Read more here: The end of voodoo GOP changes Reagan approach to tax cuts The Sacramento Bee

I concede that corporate tax rates weren't 90%, it was income tax rates that were 90%.
But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich. And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

But we all know that corporations have all the money. And it's corporations that own the politicians too. With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

Less revenue, bigger deficits.

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did. There are no poor in congress.

I concede that corporate tax rates weren't 90%

Excellent! You've probably been pushing that error for decades.

But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich.

It's true, he cut income tax rates for everybody.

And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

It's true, friends of Obama get reduced taxes. Those "Green Energy" loopholes are very lucrative for Obama's donors.

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did.

I know, those rich big spenders in Congress are awful!

But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich.

It's true, he cut income tax rates for everybody.

That tax rate was "for the rich" and it's still over half.

And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

You've probably been telling that lie since Raygun.

With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

It's true, friends of Obama get reduced taxes. Those "Green Energy" loopholes are very lucrative for Obama's donors.

You trying to tell us big oil and war machine contractors don't do that?

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did.

I know, those rich big spenders in Congress are awful!

Yeah, those GOP war mongers wasted $3 trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan. But their buddies Halliburton got a trillion of it. And think of all the kickbacks those cons get from big oil from lobbyists and campaign contributions.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

You've probably been telling that lie since Raygun.

1980 517,112
1981 599,272
1982 617,766
1983 600,562
1984 666,438
1985 734,037
1986 769,155
1987 854,287
1988 909,238
1989 991,104
Total revenues went from $517 billion in 1980, to $991 billion in 1989.
.
You trying to tell us big oil and war machine contractors don't do that?

They get loopholes from Obama? Bastards!

Congress has the purse strings, not Obama. Congress makes the loopholes, not Obama.

1980 517,112
1981 599,272
1982 617,766
1983 600,562
1984 666,438
1985 734,037
1986 769,155
1987 854,287
1988 909,238
1989 991,104
Total revenues went from $517 billion in 1980, to $991 billion in 1989.

Two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together"constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime,"

more asset sales became taxable and tax-advantaged contributions and benefits under pension plans were further limited.
There were other notable tax increases under Reagan.

In 1983, for example, he signed off on Social Security reform legislation that, among other things, accelerated an increase in the payroll tax rate, required that higher-income beneficiaries pay income tax on part of their benefits, and required the self-employed to pay the full payroll tax rate, rather than just the portion normally paid by employees.

The tax reform of 1986, meanwhile, wasn't designed to increase federal tax revenue. But that didn't mean that no one's taxes went up. Because the reform bill eliminated or reduced many tax breaks and shelters, high-income tax filers who previously paid little ended up with bigger tax bills.

All told, the tax increases Reagan approved ended up canceling out much of the reduction in tax revenue that resulted from his 1981 legislation.
Taxes What people forget about Reagan - Sep. 8 2010
In straight language, it means Raygun cut taxes on the rich and raised them on everybody else.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Better yet, let's go back to before when Raygun cut corporate taxes in half.

He did no such thing.

Let's go back to when corporate taxes were 90%.

They were never anywhere close to that high.

THAT ALONE WILL PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT IN TEN YEARS.

Yes, driving all your employers away is the quickest path to paying off your debt.
Have you always been this stupid, or did it take lots of practice?

If you'd like to educate yourself, the below link might help.

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/Content/PDF/corporate_historical_bracket.pdf

Top Federal Income Tax Rate Was Once Over 90 Percent Tax Foundation

Economists Say We Should Tax The Rich At 90 Percent

Reagan pushed through sweeping tax cuts, slashing the top rate from 70.1 percent to 28.4 percent, and the lowest rate from 14 percent to 11 percent.

Read more here: The end of voodoo GOP changes Reagan approach to tax cuts The Sacramento Bee

I concede that corporate tax rates weren't 90%, it was income tax rates that were 90%.
But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich. And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

But we all know that corporations have all the money. And it's corporations that own the politicians too. With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

Less revenue, bigger deficits.

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did. There are no poor in congress.

I concede that corporate tax rates weren't 90%

Excellent! You've probably been pushing that error for decades.

But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich.

It's true, he cut income tax rates for everybody.

And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

It's true, friends of Obama get reduced taxes. Those "Green Energy" loopholes are very lucrative for Obama's donors.

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did.

I know, those rich big spenders in Congress are awful!

But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich.

It's true, he cut income tax rates for everybody.

That tax rate was "for the rich" and it's still over half.

And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

You've probably been telling that lie since Raygun.

With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

It's true, friends of Obama get reduced taxes. Those "Green Energy" loopholes are very lucrative for Obama's donors.

You trying to tell us big oil and war machine contractors don't do that?

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did.

I know, those rich big spenders in Congress are awful!

Yeah, those GOP war mongers wasted $3 trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan. But their buddies Halliburton got a trillion of it. And think of all the kickbacks those cons get from big oil from lobbyists and campaign contributions.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

You've probably been telling that lie since Raygun.

1980 517,112
1981 599,272
1982 617,766
1983 600,562
1984 666,438
1985 734,037
1986 769,155
1987 854,287
1988 909,238
1989 991,104
Total revenues went from $517 billion in 1980, to $991 billion in 1989.
.
You trying to tell us big oil and war machine contractors don't do that?

They get loopholes from Obama? Bastards!

Congress has the purse strings, not Obama. Congress makes the loopholes, not Obama.

1980 517,112
1981 599,272
1982 617,766
1983 600,562
1984 666,438
1985 734,037
1986 769,155
1987 854,287
1988 909,238
1989 991,104
Total revenues went from $517 billion in 1980, to $991 billion in 1989.

Two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together"constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime,"

more asset sales became taxable and tax-advantaged contributions and benefits under pension plans were further limited.
There were other notable tax increases under Reagan.

In 1983, for example, he signed off on Social Security reform legislation that, among other things, accelerated an increase in the payroll tax rate, required that higher-income beneficiaries pay income tax on part of their benefits, and required the self-employed to pay the full payroll tax rate, rather than just the portion normally paid by employees.

The tax reform of 1986, meanwhile, wasn't designed to increase federal tax revenue. But that didn't mean that no one's taxes went up. Because the reform bill eliminated or reduced many tax breaks and shelters, high-income tax filers who previously paid little ended up with bigger tax bills.

All told, the tax increases Reagan approved ended up canceling out much of the reduction in tax revenue that resulted from his 1981 legislation.
Taxes What people forget about Reagan - Sep. 8 2010
In straight language, it means Raygun cut taxes on the rich and raised them on everybody else.

In straight language, it means Raygun cut taxes on the rich and raised them on everybody else.

LOL!

Congress has the purse strings, not Obama. Congress makes the loopholes, not Obama.

Obama didn't sign those "Green Energy" loopholes into law?
Are you sure?

 

[hangover]

Top Federal Income Tax Rate Was Once Over 90 Percent Tax Foundation

Economists Say We Should Tax The Rich At 90 Percent

Reagan pushed through sweeping tax cuts, slashing the top rate from 70.1 percent to 28.4 percent, and the lowest rate from 14 percent to 11 percent.

Read more here: The end of voodoo GOP changes Reagan approach to tax cuts The Sacramento Bee

I concede that corporate tax rates weren't 90%, it was income tax rates that were 90%.
But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich. And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

But we all know that corporations have all the money. And it's corporations that own the politicians too. With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

Less revenue, bigger deficits.

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did. There are no poor in congress.

I concede that corporate tax rates weren't 90%

Excellent! You've probably been pushing that error for decades.

But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich.

It's true, he cut income tax rates for everybody.

And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

It's true, friends of Obama get reduced taxes. Those "Green Energy" loopholes are very lucrative for Obama's donors.

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did.

I know, those rich big spenders in Congress are awful!

But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich.

It's true, he cut income tax rates for everybody.

That tax rate was "for the rich" and it's still over half.

And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

You've probably been telling that lie since Raygun.

With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

It's true, friends of Obama get reduced taxes. Those "Green Energy" loopholes are very lucrative for Obama's donors.

You trying to tell us big oil and war machine contractors don't do that?

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did.

I know, those rich big spenders in Congress are awful!

Yeah, those GOP war mongers wasted $3 trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan. But their buddies Halliburton got a trillion of it. And think of all the kickbacks those cons get from big oil from lobbyists and campaign contributions.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

You've probably been telling that lie since Raygun.

1980 517,112
1981 599,272
1982 617,766
1983 600,562
1984 666,438
1985 734,037
1986 769,155
1987 854,287
1988 909,238
1989 991,104
Total revenues went from $517 billion in 1980, to $991 billion in 1989.
.
You trying to tell us big oil and war machine contractors don't do that?

They get loopholes from Obama? Bastards!

Congress has the purse strings, not Obama. Congress makes the loopholes, not Obama.

1980 517,112
1981 599,272
1982 617,766
1983 600,562
1984 666,438
1985 734,037
1986 769,155
1987 854,287
1988 909,238
1989 991,104
Total revenues went from $517 billion in 1980, to $991 billion in 1989.

Two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together"constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime,"

more asset sales became taxable and tax-advantaged contributions and benefits under pension plans were further limited.
There were other notable tax increases under Reagan.

In 1983, for example, he signed off on Social Security reform legislation that, among other things, accelerated an increase in the payroll tax rate, required that higher-income beneficiaries pay income tax on part of their benefits, and required the self-employed to pay the full payroll tax rate, rather than just the portion normally paid by employees.

The tax reform of 1986, meanwhile, wasn't designed to increase federal tax revenue. But that didn't mean that no one's taxes went up. Because the reform bill eliminated or reduced many tax breaks and shelters, high-income tax filers who previously paid little ended up with bigger tax bills.

All told, the tax increases Reagan approved ended up canceling out much of the reduction in tax revenue that resulted from his 1981 legislation.
Taxes What people forget about Reagan - Sep. 8 2010
In straight language, it means Raygun cut taxes on the rich and raised them on everybody else.

In straight language, it means Raygun cut taxes on the rich and raised them on everybody else.

LOL!

Congress has the purse strings, not Obama. Congress makes the loopholes, not Obama.

Obama didn't sign those "Green Energy" loopholes into law?
Are you sure?

In straight language, it means Raygun cut taxes on the rich and raised them on everybody else.

LOL!

Cons always laugh wen the GOP fucks Americans.
Congress has the purse strings, not Obama. Congress makes the loopholes, not Obama.

Obama didn't sign those "Green Energy" loopholes into law?
Are you sure

He can only sign them when congress puts the bill on his desk. But nice deflection of big oil and war machine corporations.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I concede that corporate tax rates weren't 90%

Excellent! You've probably been pushing that error for decades.

But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich.

It's true, he cut income tax rates for everybody.

And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

It's true, friends of Obama get reduced taxes. Those "Green Energy" loopholes are very lucrative for Obama's donors.

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did.

I know, those rich big spenders in Congress are awful!

But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich.

It's true, he cut income tax rates for everybody.

That tax rate was "for the rich" and it's still over half.

And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

You've probably been telling that lie since Raygun.

With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

It's true, friends of Obama get reduced taxes. Those "Green Energy" loopholes are very lucrative for Obama's donors.

You trying to tell us big oil and war machine contractors don't do that?

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did.

I know, those rich big spenders in Congress are awful!

Yeah, those GOP war mongers wasted $3 trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan. But their buddies Halliburton got a trillion of it. And think of all the kickbacks those cons get from big oil from lobbyists and campaign contributions.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

You've probably been telling that lie since Raygun.

1980 517,112
1981 599,272
1982 617,766
1983 600,562
1984 666,438
1985 734,037
1986 769,155
1987 854,287
1988 909,238
1989 991,104
Total revenues went from $517 billion in 1980, to $991 billion in 1989.
.
You trying to tell us big oil and war machine contractors don't do that?

They get loopholes from Obama? Bastards!

Congress has the purse strings, not Obama. Congress makes the loopholes, not Obama.

1980 517,112
1981 599,272
1982 617,766
1983 600,562
1984 666,438
1985 734,037
1986 769,155
1987 854,287
1988 909,238
1989 991,104
Total revenues went from $517 billion in 1980, to $991 billion in 1989.

Two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together"constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime,"

more asset sales became taxable and tax-advantaged contributions and benefits under pension plans were further limited.
There were other notable tax increases under Reagan.

In 1983, for example, he signed off on Social Security reform legislation that, among other things, accelerated an increase in the payroll tax rate, required that higher-income beneficiaries pay income tax on part of their benefits, and required the self-employed to pay the full payroll tax rate, rather than just the portion normally paid by employees.

The tax reform of 1986, meanwhile, wasn't designed to increase federal tax revenue. But that didn't mean that no one's taxes went up. Because the reform bill eliminated or reduced many tax breaks and shelters, high-income tax filers who previously paid little ended up with bigger tax bills.

All told, the tax increases Reagan approved ended up canceling out much of the reduction in tax revenue that resulted from his 1981 legislation.
Taxes What people forget about Reagan - Sep. 8 2010
In straight language, it means Raygun cut taxes on the rich and raised them on everybody else.

In straight language, it means Raygun cut taxes on the rich and raised them on everybody else.

LOL!

Congress has the purse strings, not Obama. Congress makes the loopholes, not Obama.

Obama didn't sign those "Green Energy" loopholes into law?
Are you sure?

In straight language, it means Raygun cut taxes on the rich and raised them on everybody else.

LOL!

Cons always laugh wen the GOP fucks Americans.
Congress has the purse strings, not Obama. Congress makes the loopholes, not Obama.

Obama didn't sign those "Green Energy" loopholes into law?
Are you sure

He can only sign them when congress puts the bill on his desk. But nice deflection of big oil and war machine corporations.

Cons always laugh wen the GOP fucks Americans.

I alway laugh at idiot libs.

He can only sign them when congress puts the bill on his desk.

He signed them? Is he in the pocket of big oil and big war? Bastard!

 

[hangover]

But Raygun did cut income tax rates from 70% down to 28% for the rich.

It's true, he cut income tax rates for everybody.

That tax rate was "for the rich" and it's still over half.

And because of it, he tripled the national debt in eight years.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

You've probably been telling that lie since Raygun.

With all the loop holes corporations get, most pay NO TAXES AT ALL.

It's true, friends of Obama get reduced taxes. Those "Green Energy" loopholes are very lucrative for Obama's donors.

You trying to tell us big oil and war machine contractors don't do that?

The poor didn't run up the national debt, the rich did.

I know, those rich big spenders in Congress are awful!

Yeah, those GOP war mongers wasted $3 trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan. But their buddies Halliburton got a trillion of it. And think of all the kickbacks those cons get from big oil from lobbyists and campaign contributions.

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

You've probably been telling that lie since Raygun.

1980 517,112
1981 599,272
1982 617,766
1983 600,562
1984 666,438
1985 734,037
1986 769,155
1987 854,287
1988 909,238
1989 991,104
Total revenues went from $517 billion in 1980, to $991 billion in 1989.
.
You trying to tell us big oil and war machine contractors don't do that?

They get loopholes from Obama? Bastards!

Congress has the purse strings, not Obama. Congress makes the loopholes, not Obama.

1980 517,112
1981 599,272
1982 617,766
1983 600,562
1984 666,438
1985 734,037
1986 769,155
1987 854,287
1988 909,238
1989 991,104
Total revenues went from $517 billion in 1980, to $991 billion in 1989.

Two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together"constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime,"

more asset sales became taxable and tax-advantaged contributions and benefits under pension plans were further limited.
There were other notable tax increases under Reagan.

In 1983, for example, he signed off on Social Security reform legislation that, among other things, accelerated an increase in the payroll tax rate, required that higher-income beneficiaries pay income tax on part of their benefits, and required the self-employed to pay the full payroll tax rate, rather than just the portion normally paid by employees.

The tax reform of 1986, meanwhile, wasn't designed to increase federal tax revenue. But that didn't mean that no one's taxes went up. Because the reform bill eliminated or reduced many tax breaks and shelters, high-income tax filers who previously paid little ended up with bigger tax bills.

All told, the tax increases Reagan approved ended up canceling out much of the reduction in tax revenue that resulted from his 1981 legislation.
Taxes What people forget about Reagan - Sep. 8 2010
In straight language, it means Raygun cut taxes on the rich and raised them on everybody else.

In straight language, it means Raygun cut taxes on the rich and raised them on everybody else.

LOL!

Congress has the purse strings, not Obama. Congress makes the loopholes, not Obama.

Obama didn't sign those "Green Energy" loopholes into law?
Are you sure?

In straight language, it means Raygun cut taxes on the rich and raised them on everybody else.

LOL!

Cons always laugh wen the GOP fucks Americans.
Congress has the purse strings, not Obama. Congress makes the loopholes, not Obama.

Obama didn't sign those "Green Energy" loopholes into law?
Are you sure

He can only sign them when congress puts the bill on his desk. But nice deflection of big oil and war machine corporations.

Cons always laugh wen the GOP fucks Americans.

I alway laugh at idiot libs.

He can only sign them when congress puts the bill on his desk.

He signed them? Is he in the pocket of big oil and big war? Bastard!

Cons always laugh wen the GOP fucks Americans.

I alway laugh at idiot libs.
Mentally challenged cons calling libs idiots, always happens every time they lose on an issue that they're on the wrong side of, healthcare, confederate flag, equal rights, just this week alone.
He can only sign them when congress puts the bill on his desk.

He signed them? Is he in the pocket of big oil and big war? Bastard!
^^^^Mentally challenged tries to pretend big oil and war was created by Obama because the reality of Iraq is to shameful for him to own up to. You're so lame, if you were a horse they'd have to shoot you.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The rate cuts didn't reduce government revenues.

You've probably been telling that lie since Raygun.

1980 517,112
1981 599,272
1982 617,766
1983 600,562
1984 666,438
1985 734,037
1986 769,155
1987 854,287
1988 909,238
1989 991,104
Total revenues went from $517 billion in 1980, to $991 billion in 1989.
.
You trying to tell us big oil and war machine contractors don't do that?

They get loopholes from Obama? Bastards!

Congress has the purse strings, not Obama. Congress makes the loopholes, not Obama.

1980 517,112
1981 599,272
1982 617,766
1983 600,562
1984 666,438
1985 734,037
1986 769,155
1987 854,287
1988 909,238
1989 991,104
Total revenues went from $517 billion in 1980, to $991 billion in 1989.

Two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together"constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime,"

more asset sales became taxable and tax-advantaged contributions and benefits under pension plans were further limited.
There were other notable tax increases under Reagan.

In 1983, for example, he signed off on Social Security reform legislation that, among other things, accelerated an increase in the payroll tax rate, required that higher-income beneficiaries pay income tax on part of their benefits, and required the self-employed to pay the full payroll tax rate, rather than just the portion normally paid by employees.

The tax reform of 1986, meanwhile, wasn't designed to increase federal tax revenue. But that didn't mean that no one's taxes went up. Because the reform bill eliminated or reduced many tax breaks and shelters, high-income tax filers who previously paid little ended up with bigger tax bills.

All told, the tax increases Reagan approved ended up canceling out much of the reduction in tax revenue that resulted from his 1981 legislation.
Taxes What people forget about Reagan - Sep. 8 2010
In straight language, it means Raygun cut taxes on the rich and raised them on everybody else.

In straight language, it means Raygun cut taxes on the rich and raised them on everybody else.

LOL!

Congress has the purse strings, not Obama. Congress makes the loopholes, not Obama.

Obama didn't sign those "Green Energy" loopholes into law?
Are you sure?

In straight language, it means Raygun cut taxes on the rich and raised them on everybody else.

LOL!

Cons always laugh wen the GOP fucks Americans.
Congress has the purse strings, not Obama. Congress makes the loopholes, not Obama.

Obama didn't sign those "Green Energy" loopholes into law?
Are you sure

He can only sign them when congress puts the bill on his desk. But nice deflection of big oil and war machine corporations.

Cons always laugh wen the GOP fucks Americans.

I alway laugh at idiot libs.

He can only sign them when congress puts the bill on his desk.

He signed them? Is he in the pocket of big oil and big war? Bastard!

Cons always laugh wen the GOP fucks Americans.

I alway laugh at idiot libs.
Mentally challenged cons calling libs idiots, always happens every time they lose on an issue that they're on the wrong side of, healthcare, confederate flag, equal rights, just this week alone.
He can only sign them when congress puts the bill on his desk.

He signed them? Is he in the pocket of big oil and big war? Bastard!
^^^^Mentally challenged tries to pretend big oil and war was created by Obama because the reality of Iraq is to shameful for him to own up to. You're so lame, if you were a horse they'd have to shoot you.

You're the idiot who said we should raise corporate tax rates to 90%.
You're the idiot who said they used to be 90%.

I didn't say anything about big oil and war being created by Obama.
If you don't like the loopholes Obama put into effect for corporations like GE,
you should just come right out and say it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

First, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and our policy of foreign intervention has greatly contributed to the amount of money we owe; cutting taxes at a time of war and the Great Recession exacerbated a long term and growing issue.

The debt will come down, once we elect a fiscally responsible Congress. Note, fiscal conservatism and austerity are not solutions, they are political talking points. Raising taxes and cutting unnecessary spending is the solution!

Borrowing and the Federal Debt

Whining about the national debt is one more wedge issue, a talking point by the Republican Party (and callow posters who parrot the current meme) who contributed greatly to the problem and now want to point fingers at President Obama. That's one more BIG LIE by the Party of Grover Limbaugh.

Obama Fulffers motto: Obama had nothing to do with the debt, its all somebody else's fault

Even the failed stimulus wasn't his fault