Let's Put People Back to Work On Our Continent.

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    We could save North America by creating a North American Co Prosperity Economic Sphere and trading only between the countries of North America for the time being.

    Food, Industry, Clothing, would be abundant and we could still hold on to capitalism. We need to stop buying product from China and put our people back to work. It can be done, and we should just set out to do it.

    Over the years I have said I would run for president (I was never serious since I am just an average guy.) with a campaign built upon protectionism. We need to protect our people first, and it is about time that a non Republican and non Democrat stands up and says so(I never vote for parties, just the candidate or the issues. A platform to unify the continent would really wake up the people of these neighboring countries).

    PUT NORTH AMERICANS TO WORK FOR NORTH AMERICA AND FREEDOM AND STABILITY.

    Mexico and Central America are wallowing in poverty when they could be producing product a lot cheaper than China can with all of their Communist subsidies to their workers.

    If you want to see Communism collapse put people to work in real jobs. That is the best remedy for dreams of socialist utopias. Why we are subsidizing a Communist dictatorship in China right now when we should be putting people to work on our continent is beyond rational understanding. We used to want to be good neighbors with the countries to the south of us. Now, we shun them in place of assisting a Communist "Utopia."

    By they way, if we could create a North American Co Prosperity Sphere, I would extend an offer to England and Ireland to join us if they wanted to break away from Germany dominated Europe. If Greenland and Iceland wanted to join, I'd welcome them, too. Not much population there, but Europe certainly has not done them any favors.

    Consider me a candidate until somebody who is better looking offers to run on my platform.
     
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    I predict you will either be ignored or trampled by all the "free trade is da bomb" crowd.
     
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    Charles, you are most certainly correct. Still, somebody has to advance this proposition, even if it is an old man like me.:clap2::clap2::clap2:
     
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    Am I the only one that's heard of NAFTA?:confused:
     
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    I know all about it. I have also spent many years of my life in Mexico. I would like to retire down there on the shores of the Pacific, but would prefer that it be part of the US, or the US be part of a larger country with about 88 states as would be the case if we allowed Mexican states and Canadian provinces and Central American countries to come in as states in the New Union of North America .
     
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    Trampled is more like it. And by economic reality.
    If such zones were good ideas the Warsaw Pact would be a world economic power by now. What you are proposing simply raises costs for the consumer and will create an artificial uncompetitive economy.
    If we really want to put people to work we can do three things:
    1) Suspend the minimum wage for 2 years. There is plenty of work out there but it isnt profitable to do at $8/hr. Eliminate it. If someone wants to work for $4 and that is his best alternative, let him do it.

    2) Suspend the payroll tax for 2 years. If you make something more expensive, you get less of it. This is Econ 101. Make it cheaper to hire people and more people will get hired.

    3) Suspend any new OSHA reg and eliminate those that have been shown not to achieve their purpose. Regulation is another form of taxation, increasing costs. Many jobs got eliminated and sent offshore because regulation made it impossible to keep them.
     
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    Yes we will need to get used to having less.
     
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    I remember Jimmy Carter saying exactly the same in 1979. That was followed by the largest post war peace time expansion in our nation's wealth in history.
    Sucks being a tool, I know.
     
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    But we had to get used to less for a while there didn't we?


    This is a new situation Beyond Carters scope. Interesting stuff coming.

    You da tool, I just observe and come to conclusions.
     
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    and the elite will have to get used to having more...oh the humanity...perhaps we should throw them a party, cheer them up a bit :cool:

    BTW, @Neubarth, ever heard of the NAU (North American Union)? Well, it's more of a conspiracy theory than fact, but it's suggested that Mr. Bush was trying to do just what you mentioned in your OP (who knows, maybe Obama is leaning that way as well).

    Well, I'll say this much, if the corporatists (i.e. those inclined to fascism) have it their way, you will get what you're looking for. Though I get the feeling that the pros of job creation may have a terrible time balancing the cons of a corporatist state. I'm not calling you a fascist or anything, only that your approach seems overly simplistic.

    There's more than one way to do something, and I think you're suggesting the worst option available.
     
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