After first hearing about the ironically named Swiftboat Veterans for Truth, I expected it to die down in a couple of days, but I have long since been proven wrong. The lowest of all the accusations takes place in this thread http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10991. I knew that this couldn't be right when I saw this last afternoon, and of course after watching the actual program I was proven right. The spokesman actually said that it was possible, with an emphasis on the possible, that it could have been self inflicted, it was during the heat of battle afterall. But even if it was self inflicted, Kerry deserves the Purple Heart because he was under enemy fire, it is part of the law that you get a purple heart, self inflicted or otherwise, if you are wounded while under fire. So there is another "truth" debunked. 20 men with reportedly only 150k were able to create an ad that goes against all military documentation of what really happened and to my knowledge 3 of the men have been proven liars, yet there seems to be no end, the conservative fringe will simply not admit that both John Kerry and President Bush are telling the truth when they say that Kerry served admirably and with honor. But this really isn't about what took place in Viet Nam, its really a 30 year old fight between the hawks and doves of the 70s, represented in this case by O'Neil and Kerry. VVT exists today because Kerry was an anti-war protestor, the hatred and vengeance shown by O'Neill is due to the strong language and accusations Kerry made before Congress, which is legitimate criticism, but taking it to this level is wrong on O'Neil's part.