Let's give them what they want

[rh287]

Whine all you want fuckers. You got what you wanted... another four years of partisan gridlock, more debt, and further economic destruction. It's what YOU voted for.

Whine?.....WHINE?!?!?!

us whining......what a crock of shit. It's you guys that are whining.....you and all the "billionaires" you know are the ones that are taking your ball and going home, like some spoiled brat on a playground.

I do find it amusing that so many people on an anonymous message board either....run their own business and are "closing up shop", Know Billionaires who are closing plants down, and are ready to leave this country on their yachts and catamarans.

Well of course there are far more millionaire than billionaire entrepreneurs in the USA. Both make decisions based on projected business earnings/ losses and costs to run the business models, and projected business environments. Most even care deeply about their employees, especially the long term loyal ones. They are not taking the ball home like brats, they are doing what any smart, successful business owners would do, large or small. If I had more money than I could spend in 100 life times, I'd say fuck all the hassle and worry, and just sell it or close the ones I thought were going to end up in bankruptcy too.

 

[Steelplate]

Whine all you want fuckers. You got what you wanted... another four years of partisan gridlock, more debt, and further economic destruction. It's what YOU voted for.

Whine?.....WHINE?!?!?!

us whining......what a crock of shit. It's you guys that are whining.....you and all the "billionaires" you know are the ones that are taking your ball and going home, like some spoiled brat on a playground.

I do find it amusing that so many people on an anonymous message board either....run their own business and are "closing up shop", Know Billionaires who are closing plants down, and are ready to leave this country on their yachts and catamarans.

Well of course there are far more millionaire than billionaire entrepreneurs in the USA. Both make decisions based on projected business earnings/ losses and costs to run the business models, and projected business environments. Most even care deeply about their employees, especially the long term loyal ones. They are not taking the ball home like brats, they are doing what any smart, successful business owners would do, large or small. If I had more money than I could spend in 100 life times, I'd say fuck all the hassle and worry, and just sell it or close the ones I thought were going to end up in bankruptcy too.

And there will five more to take their places. Ones that will play by the rules. Smaller companies who will compete with each other to make better products and services instead of a huge one who squashes competition and lobbies Congress to make them the only game in town.

So...business owners don't like "hassles"? Perhaps they shouldn't have gotten into business in the first place. Long hours, endless paperwork and financial issues....hiring and firing....keeping good employees and getting rid of shitty ones, dealing with taxes and regulations, Why do they even do it? Oh yeah....they have more money than they can spend in 100 lifetimes....

If you REALLY believe that ambition and greed will be squashes by anything Obama does, you've drank way too much right wing Kool Aid.

 

[Harry Dresden]

As we all know (and to a certain degree, even they know), the left is profoundly stupid. Even though Marxism/Socialism/Communism has had a spectacular 100% failure rate world-wide, where ever it has been implemented, they Dumbocrats still call for it because it "feels" good to them (rational thought is not their strong point, it's all about emotion with them - hence the lack of logic and reason in their entire philosophy).

Well, today I heard an interview with a small business owner who closed his doors today. He said he's tired of putting in 90 hour work weeks all so that Obama can confiscate his wealth and hand it over to "Obama Phone" ghetto broad and "Obama Money" ghetto broad. With taxmaggedon looming, he had crunched the numbers and simply could not survive the 2013 year under Obama policy.

This got me thinking - since such a large portion of this population suckles at the government teet and refuses to help themselves, and another sector (though much smaller) actually supports themselves while supporting this stupidity, I think we should all do exactly what this small business owner did. Why kill ourselves so that the government can take 60% of what we EARN (work our asses off for) just to hand it to the parasite class? If you have a small business, I encourage you to close the doors and lay off your employees. If you work somewhere, I encourage to slack of so severely, you get fired and then you can go on unemployment and welfare (just like the Dem's want, since it ensures you need them, and thus, ensures your vote).

When there are none of us left who DO and PROVIDE, the entire thing will collapse. Lets give them exactly what they want - an entire nation punished for success who gives up, joins the left, and suckles at the government teet.

For those thinking this is crazy, I can only tell you that it worked in the former U.S.S.R. After collapsing under the exact insanity Obama and the Dumbocrats have implemented, they turned to capitalism to rebuild as Russia. Some people are just too stupid to understand even basic principles - they must experience the excruciating pain for themselves.

Anyway, this is what I'm doing. I invite all of you to join me. Lets burden the Obama Administration into collapse using their own policy's. Lets sit back, put our feet up, and enjoy the free healthcare, free housing, free food. I'll get to spend a TON of time with my children, and I am so looking forward to that.

If ‘the left’ are so ‘stupid’ how did they manage to win four of the last six presidential elections?

Answer:

The democrats successfully kicked the radical left to the curb and kept them there.

The GOP will realize the same success only when they do the same to the radical right.

if you kicked "radical lefties" to the curb.....how come i dont see you doing that to the "radical lefties" here when they make their outrageous statements here?.........

 

[daveman]

As we all know (and to a certain degree, even they know), the left is profoundly stupid. Even though Marxism/Socialism/Communism has had a spectacular 100% failure rate world-wide, where ever it has been implemented, they Dumbocrats still call for it because it "feels" good to them (rational thought is not their strong point, it's all about emotion with them - hence the lack of logic and reason in their entire philosophy).

Well, today I heard an interview with a small business owner who closed his doors today. He said he's tired of putting in 90 hour work weeks all so that Obama can confiscate his wealth and hand it over to "Obama Phone" ghetto broad and "Obama Money" ghetto broad. With taxmaggedon looming, he had crunched the numbers and simply could not survive the 2013 year under Obama policy.

This got me thinking - since such a large portion of this population suckles at the government teet and refuses to help themselves, and another sector (though much smaller) actually supports themselves while supporting this stupidity, I think we should all do exactly what this small business owner did. Why kill ourselves so that the government can take 60% of what we EARN (work our asses off for) just to hand it to the parasite class? If you have a small business, I encourage you to close the doors and lay off your employees. If you work somewhere, I encourage to slack of so severely, you get fired and then you can go on unemployment and welfare (just like the Dem's want, since it ensures you need them, and thus, ensures your vote).

When there are none of us left who DO and PROVIDE, the entire thing will collapse. Lets give them exactly what they want - an entire nation punished for success who gives up, joins the left, and suckles at the government teet.

For those thinking this is crazy, I can only tell you that it worked in the former U.S.S.R. After collapsing under the exact insanity Obama and the Dumbocrats have implemented, they turned to capitalism to rebuild as Russia. Some people are just too stupid to understand even basic principles - they must experience the excruciating pain for themselves.

Anyway, this is what I'm doing. I invite all of you to join me. Lets burden the Obama Administration into collapse using their own policy's. Lets sit back, put our feet up, and enjoy the free healthcare, free housing, free food. I'll get to spend a TON of time with my children, and I am so looking forward to that.

If ‘the left’ are so ‘stupid’ how did they manage to win four of the last six presidential elections?

Answer:

The democrats successfully kicked the radical left to the curb and kept them there.

The GOP will realize the same success only when they do the same to the radical right.

if you kicked "radical lefties" to the curb.....how come i dont see you doing that to the "radical lefties" here when they make their outrageous statements here?.........

Some of them make outrageous statements in White House press releases, too.

I counted the number of radical lefties whom the left has kicked to the curb.

I came up with zero.

 

[logical4u]

1. Romney shipped jobs overseas.
2. Romney lied and lied and lied. I'm surprised his pants haven't caught on fire, yet.
3. His far right views didn't help him at all
4. Flip-flopping
5. He supported tax breaks for the rich and corporate personhood. Not to mention throwing regulation out the window.

Are you really implying that Obama did not LIE?

About half the voters rejected a good man for one that is intrinsically "evil" (he supports experimentation on humans, abortion is good, but gov't financed abortion is better, kill of the sick thru controlling medical proceedures, limit the Bill of Rights thru UN "treaties", etc, etc, etc).

 

[logical4u]

China has taken the strongest elements of communism, socialism, capitalism.....mixed them....is overtaking us as the most powerful nation in the world sometime this century.

Are you telling us that you would work for $14,594 (http://www.worldsalaries.org/china.shtml)?

Do you think forced abortion is a good thing?

 

[logical4u]

As we all know (and to a certain degree, even they know), the left is profoundly stupid. Even though Marxism/Socialism/Communism has had a spectacular 100% failure rate world-wide, where ever it has been implemented, they Dumbocrats still call for it because it "feels" good to them (rational thought is not their strong point, it's all about emotion with them - hence the lack of logic and reason in their entire philosophy).

Well, today I heard an interview with a small business owner who closed his doors today. He said he's tired of putting in 90 hour work weeks all so that Obama can confiscate his wealth and hand it over to "Obama Phone" ghetto broad and "Obama Money" ghetto broad. With taxmaggedon looming, he had crunched the numbers and simply could not survive the 2013 year under Obama policy.

This got me thinking - since such a large portion of this population suckles at the government teet and refuses to help themselves, and another sector (though much smaller) actually supports themselves while supporting this stupidity, I think we should all do exactly what this small business owner did. Why kill ourselves so that the government can take 60% of what we EARN (work our asses off for) just to hand it to the parasite class? If you have a small business, I encourage you to close the doors and lay off your employees. If you work somewhere, I encourage to slack of so severely, you get fired and then you can go on unemployment and welfare (just like the Dem's want, since it ensures you need them, and thus, ensures your vote).

When there are none of us left who DO and PROVIDE, the entire thing will collapse. Lets give them exactly what they want - an entire nation punished for success who gives up, joins the left, and suckles at the government teet.

For those thinking this is crazy, I can only tell you that it worked in the former U.S.S.R. After collapsing under the exact insanity Obama and the Dumbocrats have implemented, they turned to capitalism to rebuild as Russia. Some people are just too stupid to understand even basic principles - they must experience the excruciating pain for themselves.

Anyway, this is what I'm doing. I invite all of you to join me. Lets burden the Obama Administration into collapse using their own policy's. Lets sit back, put our feet up, and enjoy the free healthcare, free housing, free food. I'll get to spend a TON of time with my children, and I am so looking forward to that.

Why make the employees suffer because a whole bunch of baffoons could care less about their grandchildren? Better idea, quite working like I think I will do. I am going to retire before it is too late. When pensions get in trouble I am told they settle higher with those who are already retired. Those not get screwed. So I think I will retire, go on the road, work maybe 4 months out of the year and collect unemployment for the other 8, and my two pensions. I can make as much in 4 months with pensions then I do all year working. So why not and make a place for someone else? I only have 37 years of experience I am sure they can replace me with a HS grad.

BTW, if you want to see into America's future just read the news in Greece.

Do you think the debt is the only problem?
This president has printed money like Mugabee did in Zimbabwe; that inflation will hit soon enough. Everyone that thinks they have enough money to retire will find it worthless. They will be moving in with their children until Obamacare sends them home from medical treatment "with a pill". Just another reality that has not been noticed, yet.

 

[logical4u]

As we all know (and to a certain degree, even they know), the left is profoundly stupid. Even though Marxism/Socialism/Communism has had a spectacular 100% failure rate world-wide, where ever it has been implemented, they Dumbocrats still call for it because it "feels" good to them (rational thought is not their strong point, it's all about emotion with them - hence the lack of logic and reason in their entire philosophy).

Well, today I heard an interview with a small business owner who closed his doors today. He said he's tired of putting in 90 hour work weeks all so that Obama can confiscate his wealth and hand it over to "Obama Phone" ghetto broad and "Obama Money" ghetto broad. With taxmaggedon looming, he had crunched the numbers and simply could not survive the 2013 year under Obama policy.

This got me thinking - since such a large portion of this population suckles at the government teet and refuses to help themselves, and another sector (though much smaller) actually supports themselves while supporting this stupidity, I think we should all do exactly what this small business owner did. Why kill ourselves so that the government can take 60% of what we EARN (work our asses off for) just to hand it to the parasite class? If you have a small business, I encourage you to close the doors and lay off your employees. If you work somewhere, I encourage to slack of so severely, you get fired and then you can go on unemployment and welfare (just like the Dem's want, since it ensures you need them, and thus, ensures your vote).

When there are none of us left who DO and PROVIDE, the entire thing will collapse. Lets give them exactly what they want - an entire nation punished for success who gives up, joins the left, and suckles at the government teet.

For those thinking this is crazy, I can only tell you that it worked in the former U.S.S.R. After collapsing under the exact insanity Obama and the Dumbocrats have implemented, they turned to capitalism to rebuild as Russia. Some people are just too stupid to understand even basic principles - they must experience the excruciating pain for themselves.

Anyway, this is what I'm doing. I invite all of you to join me. Lets burden the Obama Administration into collapse using their own policy's. Lets sit back, put our feet up, and enjoy the free healthcare, free housing, free food. I'll get to spend a TON of time with my children, and I am so looking forward to that.

If ‘the left’ are so ‘stupid’ how did they manage to win four of the last six presidential elections?

Answer:

The democrats successfully kicked the radical left to the curb and kept them there.

The GOP will realize the same success only when they do the same to the radical right.

Now there is a smart man.

False promises are made by the left.
They told us they would "end" poverty, how much money has gone towards that, and it is increasing?
They said they would lift the blacks up to equality; where do way too many blacks live?
They said they supported families; we now have more "broken" families than in any time in our history (including when slave families were broken, forcibly).
They said they supported "choice", yet the taxpayers have no choice, we are forced to pay for others' terrible "choices".
They said they would improve the economy; we have more people unemployed. The debt will bury the country financially. More people are dependent on the gov't than ever before.
They "promised" to take care of the elderly; medicare is robbed to pay for young, healthy women's birth control and abortions. Social Security dollars are worth "less" due to borrowing and printing money with no backing.
They said "education" was the way to a better life; how many ex-students are living with their parents, wondering if this is what the libs meant?

May be you can correct me on those and show how the democrats have "improved" any of those? Hitler, Marx, Chavez, Castro, Mao all made similar promises. We can talk to people that witnessed some of those historical events and tell us what is happening in this country is the same thing that happened under those "leaders" early campaigns.

The problem is: this country promotes intelligence and intellect, but ridicules WISDOM.

 

[logical4u]

Only Fox/Pubbots believe Dems want to replace capitalism- ABSOLUTE IDIOCY> Helping the victims of Boooosh's world meltdown and a Pub style health reform, is NOT socialism, shytteheads. Change the channel, you live in an alternate Pub dupe universe.

Still blaming Bush after what we said about Obama proved to be true. We said it would be the longest and weakest recovery and we were right. 5 trillion dollars of debt heaped on your grandchildren and all you worry about is DADT.

Too bad most of America agrees that Bush created this mess.

The exit polls last night reflected that, with a verdict that crossed the party line of the popular vote (+50%). I am in the airport on my tablet, and the wifi is not fast enough to post the link... I am sure someone will.

Wonder who Obama will blame for the next 4 years?

 

[Claudette]

Hey, they voted for MORE gridlock and partisanship. So, what the hell... who are we to deny the people what they want?

Mitt Romney governed admirably in a state where 85% of his legislature was Democrat. He was the right man, at the right time, with the right skill set. And the rubes of this nation decided on the status quo and division of the last four years. So, yeah. Give 'em what they want.

Right... That was when he was more like a democrat than a republican.

It's the bases of "Flip Flop Mitt" where he couldn't agree with himself from 2008 to today.

Obama has already proven that he has no leadership ability to work across the aisle so gridlock and partisanship will continue to be the main course. At least until the crash.

Yup and crash it will.

 

[logical4u]

Yes he is successful off of the work of others.
Name one company that he started, not someone else, he himself started that was a manufacturing job or anything company that he started that actually produced a product.
NADA!
He is a leech. He just happens to have money to invest and then leech it from the work of others.

Only the new age lazy liberal can consider having a job as being "exploited". Why do all of these people accept these jobs if they are so "exploited"?

Oh, that's right, you're just an asshole....

Because you dumb as a box of hammers douchebag.....we need to feed our families....But you don't give a shit about that....nor do you care that your precious $7.25/hr job that you think we should bend over and kiss your ass for isn't enough to keep a fucking roof over someone's head.

You wonder why the economy's bad? Look around dickhead....your hated working people don't have a pot to piss in, let alone buy your crappy product or services.....pay Federal Income Tax....or not take food stamps.

This is the Conservative Legacy....This is the Class Warfare that YOU'VE been engaging in for close to thirty years! Your policies have caused this shit....and pardon the FUCK out of me if I don't care to see my fellow Americans starve in the street.

You're just pissed that regular folk who have been getting fucked right and left started to fight back. Only now is it "Class Warfare" to you guys.

I'll tell you what..close your fucking doors. Your competition will be delighted.....in fact, for every one of you fucking Sissies that close your doors, there will be five that take your place. Because THAT'S how Capitalism works....not by continually bowing down to you at the expense of everyone else.

Didn't the "libs" want cheap labor (illegal immigrants)? Who do you think your competition is? Do you think the college educated want the $8.00 starting pay jobs?

"Undocumented" workers have moved up! Not only have they been taught by the gov't to scam the gov't for food stamps, medical care, welfare, and tax refunds for every child they are related to (along with identity fraud); they have discovered that they can move into the "less skilled" jobs, get the bigger money (less than citizens want), and still take advantage of the gov't. NOT that you would ever consider voting against corruption, it goes against everything that you are now demanding.

 

[Claudette]

Still blaming Bush after what we said about Obama proved to be true. We said it would be the longest and weakest recovery and we were right. 5 trillion dollars of debt heaped on your grandchildren and all you worry about is DADT.

Too bad most of America agrees that Bush created this mess.

The exit polls last night reflected that, with a verdict that crossed the party line of the popular vote (+50%). I am in the airport on my tablet, and the wifi is not fast enough to post the link... I am sure someone will.

Wonder who Obama will blame for the next 4 years?

Thats easy. Anyone but Barry.

Bush comes to mind. After all according the Barry and the Dems its all his fault. Barry's policies ain't done jack and the debt and deficit are through the roof yet none of it is his fault. Must be nice to be so fucking perfect. LOL

 

[Shelzin]

The problem is: this country promotes intelligence and intellect, but ridicules WISDOM.

I agree. What are you going to promote next election to have a better chance at winning?

 

[Fang]

Some people are just too stupid to understand even basic principles - they must experience the excruciating pain for themselves.

This is so true. However, the problem is the will to work hard and do for yourself is ingrained in Republicans. We could never just roll over like a Liberal would.

 

[logical4u]

The problem is: this country promotes intelligence and intellect, but ridicules WISDOM.

I agree. What are you going to promote next election to have a better chance at winning?

The problem is:
Christianity has been "fractured". There is no place for people of like minds to meet. People "in the day" would belong to a community and go to church together. Community problems would be discussed in the church or at socials, hosted by the church. Now, "Christians" are ridiculed if they belong to "organized" religion. We have been divided, and conquered.

Until "Christians" are not afraid to have conversations over their beliefs and fears of the way the gov't is going, these "small" people will be able to roll right over top of us. Once we go back into churches and build the Christian community, we can make a huge voting block that will be very hard to stop or block.

 

[Shelzin]

The problem is: this country promotes intelligence and intellect, but ridicules WISDOM.

I agree. What are you going to promote next election to have a better chance at winning?

The problem is:
Christianity has been "fractured". There is no place for people of like minds to meet. People "in the day" would belong to a community and go to church together. Community problems would be discussed in the church or at socials, hosted by the church. Now, "Christians" are ridiculed if they belong to "organized" religion. We have been divided, and conquered.

Until "Christians" are not afraid to have conversations over their beliefs and fears of the way the gov't is going, these "small" people will be able to roll right over top of us. Once we go back into churches and build the Christian community, we can make a huge voting block that will be very hard to stop or block.

Interesting perspective... +rep for actually addressing the question in an intelligent manner. Not saying I agree with you on how to address it... But at least there is logic to the thought process.

 

[Jarlaxle]

As we all know (and to a certain degree, even they know), the left is profoundly stupid. Even though Marxism/Socialism/Communism has had a spectacular 100% failure rate world-wide, where ever it has been implemented, they Dumbocrats still call for it because it "feels" good to them (rational thought is not their strong point, it's all about emotion with them - hence the lack of logic and reason in their entire philosophy).

Well, today I heard an interview with a small business owner who closed his doors today. He said he's tired of putting in 90 hour work weeks all so that Obama can confiscate his wealth and hand it over to "Obama Phone" ghetto broad and "Obama Money" ghetto broad. With taxmaggedon looming, he had crunched the numbers and simply could not survive the 2013 year under Obama policy.

This got me thinking - since such a large portion of this population suckles at the government teet and refuses to help themselves, and another sector (though much smaller) actually supports themselves while supporting this stupidity, I think we should all do exactly what this small business owner did. Why kill ourselves so that the government can take 60% of what we EARN (work our asses off for) just to hand it to the parasite class? If you have a small business, I encourage you to close the doors and lay off your employees. If you work somewhere, I encourage to slack of so severely, you get fired and then you can go on unemployment and welfare (just like the Dem's want, since it ensures you need them, and thus, ensures your vote).

When there are none of us left who DO and PROVIDE, the entire thing will collapse. Lets give them exactly what they want - an entire nation punished for success who gives up, joins the left, and suckles at the government teet.

For those thinking this is crazy, I can only tell you that it worked in the former U.S.S.R. After collapsing under the exact insanity Obama and the Dumbocrats have implemented, they turned to capitalism to rebuild as Russia. Some people are just too stupid to understand even basic principles - they must experience the excruciating pain for themselves.

Anyway, this is what I'm doing. I invite all of you to join me. Lets burden the Obama Administration into collapse using their own policy's. Lets sit back, put our feet up, and enjoy the free healthcare, free housing, free food. I'll get to spend a TON of time with my children, and I am so looking forward to that.

I have to say...I am giving some serious thought to figuring a way to go on welfare. I have been working my ass off (last 7 years, I AVERAGE about 54 hours/week), while watching people in a hell of a lot better condition than I am sit on their asses and collect disability. Why the hell am I doing this, again?

 

[Jarlaxle]

As we all know (and to a certain degree, even they know), the left is profoundly stupid. Even though Marxism/Socialism/Communism has had a spectacular 100% failure rate world-wide, where ever it has been implemented, they Dumbocrats still call for it because it "feels" good to them (rational thought is not their strong point, it's all about emotion with them - hence the lack of logic and reason in their entire philosophy).

Well, today I heard an interview with a small business owner who closed his doors today. He said he's tired of putting in 90 hour work weeks all so that Obama can confiscate his wealth and hand it over to "Obama Phone" ghetto broad and "Obama Money" ghetto broad. With taxmaggedon looming, he had crunched the numbers and simply could not survive the 2013 year under Obama policy.

This got me thinking - since such a large portion of this population suckles at the government teet and refuses to help themselves, and another sector (though much smaller) actually supports themselves while supporting this stupidity, I think we should all do exactly what this small business owner did. Why kill ourselves so that the government can take 60% of what we EARN (work our asses off for) just to hand it to the parasite class? If you have a small business, I encourage you to close the doors and lay off your employees. If you work somewhere, I encourage to slack of so severely, you get fired and then you can go on unemployment and welfare (just like the Dem's want, since it ensures you need them, and thus, ensures your vote).

When there are none of us left who DO and PROVIDE, the entire thing will collapse. Lets give them exactly what they want - an entire nation punished for success who gives up, joins the left, and suckles at the government teet.

For those thinking this is crazy, I can only tell you that it worked in the former U.S.S.R. After collapsing under the exact insanity Obama and the Dumbocrats have implemented, they turned to capitalism to rebuild as Russia. Some people are just too stupid to understand even basic principles - they must experience the excruciating pain for themselves.

Anyway, this is what I'm doing. I invite all of you to join me. Lets burden the Obama Administration into collapse using their own policy's. Lets sit back, put our feet up, and enjoy the free healthcare, free housing, free food. I'll get to spend a TON of time with my children, and I am so looking forward to that.

Yeah, well I know of a billionaire, yep with a B that just let her top executives, (my wife is one of them), know she is closing down one of her businesses. 6,700 very good paying jobs will soon be gone because of Obama and Obama Care. No shit. Mostly women at that. I mean $60K + a year jobs.

Bummer...sorry about your wife's layoff, dude.

My wife is still employed, though her boss has decided to not drop $80,000+ on a new truck until (at the earliest) next summer. Instead, he will keep his fleet of older (1979-1996) trucks running and maybe look for a good used truck.

 

[logical4u]

Sorry for cross posting, but I am going to anyway....
The election is over. The "people" have spoken. The House of Representatives has kept its "conservative" fiscal majority. The Senate and the Presidency have kept the people that want to tax and spend.

Time for compromise.

The wealthy members in the gov't (Senate, Administration, and House of Representatives should have their pay cut in half. Those members that make under $250,000 can keep their full salary. In addition, the salaries of these members of gov't should have their "spending accounts" (travel, misc, postage, etc, all other monies) cut 5% for every trillion that is on the national debt (do more with less like the rest of us). They want to re-distribute, let us start with them.

The taxes can increase, for everyone (everyone pays, its only "fair"). Pick a number (say 2%) and match that number to cut all gov't funded checks (the 2%), with the exception of Social Security (these people, for the most part actually paid into the system), which should be cut by a tenth of whatever the percentage of taxes raised is chosen (so it would be .2%). If the gov't can't control its spending, we can do this again, next year.

The debt ceiling should not be raised, the people have spoken, they have kept the financially conservative House of Representatives. Now lets get down to the ugly business of reducing the debt.

 

[GuyPinestra]

Sorry for cross posting, but I am going to anyway....
The election is over. The "people" have spoken. The House of Representatives has kept its "conservative" fiscal majority. The Senate and the Presidency have kept the people that want to tax and spend.

Time for compromise.

The wealthy members in the gov't (Senate, Administration, and House of Representatives should have their pay cut in half. Those members that make under $250,000 can keep their full salary. In addition, the salaries of these members of gov't should have their "spending accounts" (travel, misc, postage, etc, all other monies) cut 5% for every trillion that is on the national debt (do more with less like the rest of us). They want to re-distribute, let us start with them.

The taxes can increase, for everyone (everyone pays, its only "fair"). Pick a number (say 2%) and match that number to cut all gov't funded checks (the 2%), with the exception of Social Security (these people, for the most part actually paid into the system), which should be cut by a tenth of whatever the percentage of taxes raised is chosen (so it would be .2%). If the gov't can't control its spending, we can do this again, next year.

The debt ceiling should not be raised, the people have spoken, they have kept the financially conservative House of Representatives. Now lets get down to the ugly business of reducing the debt.

Reps for you!! Start 'cutting the fat' with the 537 idiots on Capitol Hill!