Let's celebrate the death of unions!

[skeptic]

Beginning of course with the death of the NFL players union!

I know you Teaparty types are tickled pink about this!

Saturday dawned with the NFL and its (former) players union retired to their separate corners after Friday's high-stakes game of chicken produced what the league deems a " 'Decertification'-Litigation-Lockout."

The NFL has locked the gates (though hopefully not thrown away the key). The players can't work, rehabilitate injuries under team supervision, get paid or collect benefits, and they no longer have a union to fight for them.

A-fkn-men! This is the kind of change that the republican party is all about! Those pampered, overpaid deadbeats who call themselves "the players" are paid far more than teachers and state employees with real jobs.

Let's all unite in solidarity to crush "the players" and force them to play the game for a simple living wage, and make them cover their own benefits. YEAH!

Enough of these crybabies trying to extort us fans for millions and billions of dollars during a recession! I think we can count on a lot of back door support from the Koch bros on this one, buddy!

 

[gekaap]

Actually, I find the development over the NFL issue rather disappointing. The players all had agreed upon business agreements regarding the way they would be compensated. The league decided it wanted to change that so that it wouldn't have to pay as much as it promised. I don't find that appropriate. No doubt football players make tons of money. But the league should be willing to live up to its agreements.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

Beginning of course with the death of the NFL players union!

I know you Teaparty types are tickled pink about this!

Saturday dawned with the NFL and its (former) players union retired to their separate corners after Friday's high-stakes game of chicken produced what the league deems a " 'Decertification'-Litigation-Lockout."

The NFL has locked the gates (though hopefully not thrown away the key). The players can't work, rehabilitate injuries under team supervision, get paid or collect benefits, and they no longer have a union to fight for them.

A-fkn-men! This is the kind of change that the republican party is all about! Those pampered, overpaid deadbeats who call themselves "the players" are paid far more than teachers and state employees with real jobs.

Let's all unite in solidarity to crush "the players" and force them to play the game for a simple living wage, and make them cover their own benefits. YEAH!

Enough of these crybabies trying to extort us fans for millions and billions of dollars during a recession! I think we can count on a lot of back door support from the Koch bros on this one, buddy!

Are you just uninformed? Is it intentional?

The NFLPA de-certified on its own, to allow the players to sue the NFL as class action participants. They could not do that if represented by a union, due to federal law.

It will re-certify as soon as a agreement is reached. It's not gone, and it's not going away.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

Actually, I find the development over the NFL issue rather disappointing. The players all had agreed upon business agreements regarding the way they would be compensated. The league decided it wanted to change that so that it wouldn't have to pay as much as it promised. I don't find that appropriate. No doubt football players make tons of money. But the league should be willing to live up to its agreements.

Actually, the NFL opted out of the CB agreement in 2008, exercising their option to do so. The main issues are, 2 more games for regular season, and the salary cap. Many owners do not want the cap. The players oppose two more games, and want the cap. Secondary issues are the distribution of funds from future TV and cable agreements, and long term care and pension for retired players.

The NFL didn't cut anyone's pay, and isn't trying to do so.

 

[gekaap]

Actually, the NFL opted out of the CB agreement in 2008, exercising their option to do so. The main issues are, 2 more games for regular season, and the salary cap. Many owners do not want the cap. The players oppose two more games, and want the cap. Secondary issues are the distribution of funds from future TV and cable agreements, and long term care and pension for retired players.

The NFL didn't cut anyone's pay, and isn't trying to do so.

The "distribution of funds" is what I'm talking about. I don't have a full low-down on the entire thing, and I really don't mean to imply that this is the only or most pressing issue, but as I understand the league wants to skim a billion dollars off of what it was suppose to share with players. I just kinda have focused on that particular point, because I find it unjust to change the prior agreement to the players' detriment, all while wanting to increase the length of the season.

 

[Sheldon]

Beginning of course with the death of the NFL players union!

I know you Teaparty types are tickled pink about this!

Saturday dawned with the NFL and its (former) players union retired to their separate corners after Friday's high-stakes game of chicken produced what the league deems a " 'Decertification'-Litigation-Lockout."

The NFL has locked the gates (though hopefully not thrown away the key). The players can't work, rehabilitate injuries under team supervision, get paid or collect benefits, and they no longer have a union to fight for them.

A-fkn-men! This is the kind of change that the republican party is all about! Those pampered, overpaid deadbeats who call themselves "the players" are paid far more than teachers and state employees with real jobs.

Let's all unite in solidarity to crush "the players" and force them to play the game for a simple living wage, and make them cover their own benefits. YEAH!

Enough of these crybabies trying to extort us fans for millions and billions of dollars during a recession! I think we can count on a lot of back door support from the Koch bros on this one, buddy!

Satire. Clearly.

 

[8537]

NFL Owners and Gov Walker should get together for strategy sessions. NFL owners say "Starting next year, We're keeping 2B before we start the revenue split!"

Then act like they are being generous when they say, "OK, we'll only take a billion!".

IN other words, the players were going to get totally screwed and now they would only get mostly screwed. Players should tell 'em to Fuck off and reorganize under the same labor units, playing college stadiums next year. Weakest union in sports.

 

[JFK_USA]

WOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah oh yeah. Unions died!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Johnny, lets tell America what they won.

(Johnny)

Well JFK_USA, they have won a nice package.

Instead of this nice two story house:

They get a BRAND NEW SLUM!!!!

Equipped with no running water, goats and enough Maleria to kill 10,000 people.

AND THATS NOT ALL

Instead of this nice fancy car:

you get something better, an old bike:

Equiped with rusted chain and bike pedals. PAinted with Lead paint because who cares about our exposure to our kids to toxic lead paint, its cheap.

LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST

FAMINE:

Now with republicans, you won't get that daily or weekly meal. You get FREEDOM, except to earn a living, be healthy and any rights beyond that because you have no money because lets face it, the rich are just so awesome.


And there you have it folks, enjoy your new America Republicans, you earned it

 

[skeptic]

Actually, I find the development over the NFL issue rather disappointing. The players all had agreed upon business agreements regarding the way they would be compensated. The league decided it wanted to change that so that it wouldn't have to pay as much as it promised. I don't find that appropriate. No doubt football players make tons of money. But the league should be willing to live up to its agreements.

Then so should the states! I am sure you are 100% behind the Wisconsin public employees unions!

 

[skeptic]

Are you just uninformed? Is it intentional?

The NFLPA de-certified on its own, to allow the players to sue the NFL as class action participants. They could not do that if represented by a union, due to federal law.

It will re-certify as soon as a agreement is reached. It's not gone, and it's not going away.

The teaparty and the Koch bros are gonna be shattered if you tell them that.....They were so counting on destroying unions......

 

[skeptic]

Now with republicans, you won't get that daily or weekly meal. You get FREEDOM, except to earn a living, be healthy and any rights beyond that because you have no money because lets face it, the rich are just so awesome.


And there you have it folks, enjoy your new America Republicans, you earned it

The rich really are awesome. In fact they are $billions of times more awesome then we are.

But this thread is about those sissy "players" trying to screw us with their collective bargaining (socialist) garbage.

I say if the players won't play for a mere living wage we should outsource the games to China and India. Or go right to the source....AFRICA! I bet those Africans will play the game for $13/hour!

 

[gekaap]

Then so should the states! I am sure you are 100% behind the Wisconsin public employees unions!

Actually, I don't think I have any place to have a concern in that matter, because it's an issue for a state government in which I do not live. So I'm neither for nor against either side on that one. But thanks for playing.

 

[Mini 14]

I'll feel a lot better when we bust up UAW, IBEW, and SEIU, but this is definitely a good start.

Fuck the NFL. I'll shed no tears for them.

 

[Charles_Main]

Beginning of course with the death of the NFL players union!

I know you Teaparty types are tickled pink about this!

Saturday dawned with the NFL and its (former) players union retired to their separate corners after Friday's high-stakes game of chicken produced what the league deems a " 'Decertification'-Litigation-Lockout."

The NFL has locked the gates (though hopefully not thrown away the key). The players can't work, rehabilitate injuries under team supervision, get paid or collect benefits, and they no longer have a union to fight for them.

A-fkn-men! This is the kind of change that the republican party is all about! Those pampered, overpaid deadbeats who call themselves "the players" are paid far more than teachers and state employees with real jobs.

Let's all unite in solidarity to crush "the players" and force them to play the game for a simple living wage, and make them cover their own benefits. YEAH!

Enough of these crybabies trying to extort us fans for millions and billions of dollars during a recession! I think we can count on a lot of back door support from the Koch bros on this one, buddy!

Drama Queen, Unions are alive and well.

 

[skeptic]

Drama Queen, Unions are alive and well.

But you know we want em all dead as doornails! No betta place to start than the pampered "players" unions!