Let's be Just Like The Netherlands!!

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    In the Netherlands, 31% of pediatricians have KILLED infants. A fifth of these killings were done without the consent of parents.

    First, Dutch euthanasia advocates said that patient killing will be limited to the competent, terminally ill who ask for it. Then, when doctors began euthanizing patients who clearly were not terminally ill, sweat not, the soothed: medicalized killing will be limited to competent people with incurable illnes or disabilities. Then, when doctors began killing patients who were depressed but not physically ill, not to worry, they told us: only competent depressed people whose desire to commit suicide is "rational" will have their deaths facilitated. Then, when doctors began killing incompetent people, such as those with Alzheimer's, it's all under control, they crooned: non-voluntary killing will be limited to patients who would have asked for it if they were competent

    And now they watn to euthanize children.

    In the Netherlands, Groningen University Hospital has decided it's doctors will euthanize children under the age of 12, if doctors believe their suffering is intollerable or if they have an incurable illness. But what does that mean? IN many cases, as occurs now with adults, it will become an excuse not to provide proper pain control for children who are dying of potentially agonizing maladies such as cancer, and doing away with them instead. As for those deemed "incurable" ---This term is merely a euphemism for killing babies and children who are seriously disabled.

    For anyone paying attention to the continuing collapse of medical ethics in the Netherlands, this isn't at all shocking. Dutch doctors have been surreptitiously engaging in eugenic euthanasia of disabled babies for years, although it technically is illegal, since infants can't consent to be killed.

    According to a report, doctors were killing approximately 8 percent of all infants who died each year in the Netherlands. that amounts to 80-90 per year. the study also found that a shocking 45 percent of neo-natologists and 31 percent of pediatricians who responded to questionnaires had killed infants.

    It took the Dutch almost 30 years for their medical practices to fall to the point that Dutch doctors are able to engage in the kind og euthanistic activities that got some German doctors hanged after Nuremburg................more

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    Wesley J Smith

    Is this whats to come in our country???
     
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    While it looks like the Dutch want to keep modifying their euthenasia laws to encompass more and more patients, I believe there needs to be a way for a terminally ill patient here in the U.S. to arrange for an end to their suffering with the assistance of a physician. Simply making a patient as comfortable as possible, which in a lot of cases means severe agony, while waiting for them to die is not good medicine. It's inhumane.
     
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    If somebody wants to kill themselves cuz they are in pain, they don't need doctors to do it.
     
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    I agree with this. We will euthanize an animal to end it's suffering but we'll let grandma die an agonizing death.

    But what if you find out that a child is severely handicapped before it it born? We're right back to the abortion issue.
     
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    I tend to give human life much more value than that of a dog or cat.
     
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    I tend to give human dignity more value than that of a dog or cat. We euthanize our dogs because they cannot live in dignity or without pain but do not show the same respect to those who can actually tell you the pain is unbearable and having their son/daughter change their diapers undignified.
     
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    True statement, but why make someone blow their brains out instead of offering them a peaceful slip out of this world?
     
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    Well, you surely missed my point. I was not equating animals to humans.
     
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    I don't believe that those that take oaths to heal, shoud get involved in killing. I figure everybody has a right to do what they want to themselves, so if they want to hire an assasin, then so be it. But don't ask doctors to do it. If that means creating an entire new career group called "life enders" or whatever, again, so be it. Just don't force doctors to do something that goes against their oath.

    As is shown in the case of the Netherlands, it is already getting out of control when doctors just start deciding whom should live and whom should not.

    Plus, there are many ways to kill one's self without having to blow your brains out.
     
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    The Hyppocratic oath hasn't been given or taken in the US in decades. There are a few doctors who take it regardless, but it is a choice and not required.
     

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