Let's All Thank Tariff Man

[g5000]

Trump calls himself "Tariff Man". Goo goo g'joob.

He thanked himself for enacting far left protectionist policies.

Since he began his little "easy to win" (his words) tariff war, our trade deficits have INCREASED, and the stock market boom which has been going gangbusters since 2009 came to a SCREECHING HALT.

The Dow is down for the year, ever since Tariff Man went full retard. How many trillions in wealth have been denied Americans in their retirement nest eggs?

So, yeah. Let's all join Tariff Man patting himself on the back.

THANKS A FUCKING LOT, TARIFF MAN!

 

[MarcATL]

ROTFLMBAO @ "Tarrif Man"...the fool give himself the best nickname ever.

#LOLGOP #TooFunny #CLASSIC

 

[Manonthestreet]

And yet more people are working for more money more money ......that's bad ..very bad

 

[Manonthestreet]

US just became net energy exporter.....that's really bad.

 

[g5000]

And yet more people are working for more money more money ......that's bad ..very bad

Actually, the Dow is tanking this morning due to a jobs report which shows things are slowing.

Daffy Donald has yet to match the job growth of Obama's last five years.

Thank you, Tariff Man!

 

[bendog]

GM thanks tariff man. I'll be thanking him when I need to replace a car in two years or so.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Llmmaaoo.....so many high paying jobs unfilled.....it's terrible out there when ya can be fired and rehired same day

 

[DandyDonovan]

Only a fucking retard doesn't understand withstanding a little short term pain to finally break the terrible long term trade deals that have been harming our country for too long.

And this is exactly why China and other countries have been eating our lunch for decades. Too many Americans are dunces who don't understand that we can force other countries to treat us fairly if we merely put our mind to it. China, for example, will have to give in eventually , they need our money far worse than we need their products.

 

[g5000]

Only a fucking retard doesn't understand withstanding a little short term pain to finally break the terrible long term trade deals that have been harming our country for too long.

And this is exactly why China and other countries have been eating our lunch for decades. Too many Americans are dunces who don't understand that we can force other countries to treat us fairly if we merely put our mind to it. China, for example, will have to give in eventually , they need our money far worse than we need their products.

Thank for that report from Labor Union HQ.

 

[g5000]

Poor countries which make our T-shirts aren't exactly going to return the favor by buying our high tech products. Where's a Third Worlder going to get that kind of cash?

That's a big reason why we have a trade deficit.

 

[DandyDonovan]

Poor countries which make our T-shirts aren't exactly going to return the favor by buying our high tech products. Where's a Third Worlder going to get that kind of cash?

That's a big reason why we have a trade deficit.

Um what? That's stupid. We actually buy high tech products from China and sell them raw products, for the most part.
Dummy

 

[g5000]

Poor countries which make our T-shirts aren't exactly going to return the favor by buying our high tech products. Where's a Third Worlder going to get that kind of cash?

That's a big reason why we have a trade deficit.

Um what? That's stupid. We actually buy high tech products from China and sell them raw products, for the most part.
Dummy

Allow me to familiarize all of you with what is known as the Smiley Curve of Production:

This represents where the profits are made in the production cycle.

As you can see, the big money is in design phase and the distribution phase.

The design phase is the engineering phase. The invention phase. This is where innovation happens, and innovation happens as the result of higher education.

That is where we are seriously flagging, folks. You know who is kicking ass in this part of the Smiley Curve?

India.

The other end of the Smiley Curve is distribution. The Apple Store. The sales part of the picture. The branding.

It doesn't take a lot of brains to sell shit, and this is where most of our weight is thrown around these days. Service industry bullshit. That's where we are making our money.

But it isn't the idiot low skilled workforce making that money. It's the owners of the company. You want to make money for yourself, you need to be on the other end of the curve, and that requires an education.

There are factories cranking out laptops by the millions, and at the end of the assembly line they glue on corporate logos. And the logo makes all the difference in how much each laptop will sell for. Pretty crazy.

All because of the Smiley Curve.

But you know what? If someone else starts inventing the new shit, do you think they are going to sell it through US outlets, or will they sell through their own outlets and bring all that cash home?

Yeah. So think about that.

Now look at the middle of the curve. There's no money in manufacturing. That's why a lot of shit is made in China by slaves these days.

But America is still manufacturing more stuff than it ever has. It really is. People who tell you America doesn't make things any more are FULL OF SHIT.

It just takes a lot less PEOPLE to make all that STUFF. The wonders of automation.


Look at the curve. Think about it. A lot.

I do. All the time.

We are going to get whacked because we are slacking off on the Design side of the curve. The innovation and invention side. That's the genesis of everything which is ever created, folks.

So you better start believing we need a LOT more higher education in America.

A lot more.

 

[DandyDonovan]

Poor countries which make our T-shirts aren't exactly going to return the favor by buying our high tech products. Where's a Third Worlder going to get that kind of cash?

That's a big reason why we have a trade deficit.

Um what? That's stupid. We actually buy high tech products from China and sell them raw products, for the most part.
Dummy

Allow me to familiarize all of you with what is known as the Smiley Curve of Production:

This represents where the profits are made in the production cycle.

As you can see, the big money is in design phase and the distribution phase.

The design phase is the engineering phase. The invention phase. This is where innovation happens, and innovation happens as the result of higher education.

That is where we are seriously flagging, folks. You know who is kicking ass in this part of the Smiley Curve?

India.

The other end of the Smiley Curve is distribution. The Apple Store. The sales part of the picture. The branding.

It doesn't take a lot of brains to sell shit, and this is where most of our weight is thrown around these days. Service industry bullshit. That's where we are making our money.

But it isn't the idiot low skilled workforce making that money. It's the owners of the company. You want to make money for yourself, you need to be on the other end of the curve, and that requires an education.

There are factories cranking out laptops by the millions, and at the end of the assembly line they glue on corporate logos. And the logo makes all the difference in how much each laptop will sell for. Pretty crazy.

All because of the Smiley Curve.

But you know what? If someone else starts inventing the new shit, do you think they are going to sell it through US outlets, or will they sell through their own outlets and bring all that cash home?

Yeah. So think about that.

Now look at the middle of the curve. There's no money in manufacturing. That's why a lot of shit is made in China by slaves these days.

But America is still manufacturing more stuff than it ever has. It really is. People who tell you America doesn't make things any more are FULL OF SHIT.

It just takes a lot less PEOPLE to make all that STUFF. The wonders of automation.


Look at the curve. Think about it. A lot.

I do. All the time.

We are going to get whacked because we are slacking off on the Design side of the curve. The innovation and invention side. That's the genesis of everything which is ever created, folks.

So you better start believing we need a LOT more higher education in America.

A lot more.

I just want to address the part about us getting whacked on the design part of the curve. You are 100% correct, and a lot of the reason we are getting whacked is shady and or outright illegal behavior by the Chinese who steal our designs and then use slave labor to build products for far less than US companies can. The tarrifs are a VERY strong push to get the Chinese to stop doing this, among other things.

So you should SUPPORT tarrifs that are used for this purpose, as Trump is doing, because you support the US making more on the design end.

 

[g5000]

Poor countries which make our T-shirts aren't exactly going to return the favor by buying our high tech products. Where's a Third Worlder going to get that kind of cash?

That's a big reason why we have a trade deficit.

Um what? That's stupid. We actually buy high tech products from China and sell them raw products, for the most part.
Dummy

Allow me to familiarize all of you with what is known as the Smiley Curve of Production:

This represents where the profits are made in the production cycle.

As you can see, the big money is in design phase and the distribution phase.

The design phase is the engineering phase. The invention phase. This is where innovation happens, and innovation happens as the result of higher education.

That is where we are seriously flagging, folks. You know who is kicking ass in this part of the Smiley Curve?

India.

The other end of the Smiley Curve is distribution. The Apple Store. The sales part of the picture. The branding.

It doesn't take a lot of brains to sell shit, and this is where most of our weight is thrown around these days. Service industry bullshit. That's where we are making our money.

But it isn't the idiot low skilled workforce making that money. It's the owners of the company. You want to make money for yourself, you need to be on the other end of the curve, and that requires an education.

There are factories cranking out laptops by the millions, and at the end of the assembly line they glue on corporate logos. And the logo makes all the difference in how much each laptop will sell for. Pretty crazy.

All because of the Smiley Curve.

But you know what? If someone else starts inventing the new shit, do you think they are going to sell it through US outlets, or will they sell through their own outlets and bring all that cash home?

Yeah. So think about that.

Now look at the middle of the curve. There's no money in manufacturing. That's why a lot of shit is made in China by slaves these days.

But America is still manufacturing more stuff than it ever has. It really is. People who tell you America doesn't make things any more are FULL OF SHIT.

It just takes a lot less PEOPLE to make all that STUFF. The wonders of automation.


Look at the curve. Think about it. A lot.

I do. All the time.

We are going to get whacked because we are slacking off on the Design side of the curve. The innovation and invention side. That's the genesis of everything which is ever created, folks.

So you better start believing we need a LOT more higher education in America.

A lot more.

I just want to address the part about us getting whacked on the design part of the curve. You are 100% correct, and a lot of the reason we are getting whacked is shady and or outright illegal behavior by the Chinese who steal our designs and then use slave labor to build products for far less than US companies can. The tarrifs are a VERY strong push to get the Chinese to stop doing this, among other things.

So you should SUPPORT tarrifs that are used for this purpose, as Trump is doing, because you support the US making more on the design end.

Tariffs are not punishment for the theft of intellectual property. They are a punishment of American workers.

Protection against theft of intellectual property rests mostly on the shoulders of the private sector. The US government assists by levying fines against bad actors at home and abroad.

Something a lot of people don't know is that one of the law enforcement arms of ICE is intellectual property protection.

 

[bendog]

If Trump's trade wars were limited to the Chinese, or even addressed offshoring, perhaps there would not be a complaint.

 

[g5000]

If Trump's trade wars were limited to the Chinese, or even addressed offshoring, perhaps there would not be a complaint.

Good point.

Attacking our allies was a bad move. Especially since we have a trade SURPLUS with Canada.

Also, ripping up the TPP was a very bad move. A stupid move. It was pure theater for the rubes.

There are many thousands of moving parts in trading partnerships, and it takes years to forge the tiny little cogs to work in harmony. To come in and blow all that away just to score points with the ignorant rube herd was massively stupid.

Not just stupid, but hypocritical on Trump's part.

 

[DandyDonovan]

Poor countries which make our T-shirts aren't exactly going to return the favor by buying our high tech products. Where's a Third Worlder going to get that kind of cash?

That's a big reason why we have a trade deficit.

Um what? That's stupid. We actually buy high tech products from China and sell them raw products, for the most part.
Dummy

Allow me to familiarize all of you with what is known as the Smiley Curve of Production:

This represents where the profits are made in the production cycle.

As you can see, the big money is in design phase and the distribution phase.

The design phase is the engineering phase. The invention phase. This is where innovation happens, and innovation happens as the result of higher education.

That is where we are seriously flagging, folks. You know who is kicking ass in this part of the Smiley Curve?

India.

The other end of the Smiley Curve is distribution. The Apple Store. The sales part of the picture. The branding.

It doesn't take a lot of brains to sell shit, and this is where most of our weight is thrown around these days. Service industry bullshit. That's where we are making our money.

But it isn't the idiot low skilled workforce making that money. It's the owners of the company. You want to make money for yourself, you need to be on the other end of the curve, and that requires an education.

There are factories cranking out laptops by the millions, and at the end of the assembly line they glue on corporate logos. And the logo makes all the difference in how much each laptop will sell for. Pretty crazy.

All because of the Smiley Curve.

But you know what? If someone else starts inventing the new shit, do you think they are going to sell it through US outlets, or will they sell through their own outlets and bring all that cash home?

Yeah. So think about that.

Now look at the middle of the curve. There's no money in manufacturing. That's why a lot of shit is made in China by slaves these days.

But America is still manufacturing more stuff than it ever has. It really is. People who tell you America doesn't make things any more are FULL OF SHIT.

It just takes a lot less PEOPLE to make all that STUFF. The wonders of automation.


Look at the curve. Think about it. A lot.

I do. All the time.

We are going to get whacked because we are slacking off on the Design side of the curve. The innovation and invention side. That's the genesis of everything which is ever created, folks.

So you better start believing we need a LOT more higher education in America.

A lot more.

I just want to address the part about us getting whacked on the design part of the curve. You are 100% correct, and a lot of the reason we are getting whacked is shady and or outright illegal behavior by the Chinese who steal our designs and then use slave labor to build products for far less than US companies can. The tarrifs are a VERY strong push to get the Chinese to stop doing this, among other things.

So you should SUPPORT tarrifs that are used for this purpose, as Trump is doing, because you support the US making more on the design end.

Tariffs are not punishment for the theft of intellectual property. They are a punishment of American workers.

Protection against theft of intellectual property rests mostly on the shoulders of the private sector. The US government assists by levying fines against bad actors at home and abroad.

Something a lot of people don't know is that one of the law enforcement arms of ICE is intellectual property protection.

What are you talking about? US law enforcement has no authority in say China where much of this intellectual property theft occurs. We're not talking about people who physically sneak into a building and steal plans for a product. We're talking about people who break in electronically and steal such. ICE and or the FBI have no jurisdiction there, the only people who can stop that are the Chinese government themselves, but since they are behind the thefts that isn't likely unless they are told, here you go we're gonna make your products so expensive to sell in the US that you can't afford to do it unless you stop stealing shit.

Why you would take any tool that the USG has to fight this shit out of their arsenal is anyone's guess.

 

[g5000]

Poor countries which make our T-shirts aren't exactly going to return the favor by buying our high tech products. Where's a Third Worlder going to get that kind of cash?

That's a big reason why we have a trade deficit.

Um what? That's stupid. We actually buy high tech products from China and sell them raw products, for the most part.
Dummy

Allow me to familiarize all of you with what is known as the Smiley Curve of Production:

This represents where the profits are made in the production cycle.

As you can see, the big money is in design phase and the distribution phase.

The design phase is the engineering phase. The invention phase. This is where innovation happens, and innovation happens as the result of higher education.

That is where we are seriously flagging, folks. You know who is kicking ass in this part of the Smiley Curve?

India.

The other end of the Smiley Curve is distribution. The Apple Store. The sales part of the picture. The branding.

It doesn't take a lot of brains to sell shit, and this is where most of our weight is thrown around these days. Service industry bullshit. That's where we are making our money.

But it isn't the idiot low skilled workforce making that money. It's the owners of the company. You want to make money for yourself, you need to be on the other end of the curve, and that requires an education.

There are factories cranking out laptops by the millions, and at the end of the assembly line they glue on corporate logos. And the logo makes all the difference in how much each laptop will sell for. Pretty crazy.

All because of the Smiley Curve.

But you know what? If someone else starts inventing the new shit, do you think they are going to sell it through US outlets, or will they sell through their own outlets and bring all that cash home?

Yeah. So think about that.

Now look at the middle of the curve. There's no money in manufacturing. That's why a lot of shit is made in China by slaves these days.

But America is still manufacturing more stuff than it ever has. It really is. People who tell you America doesn't make things any more are FULL OF SHIT.

It just takes a lot less PEOPLE to make all that STUFF. The wonders of automation.


Look at the curve. Think about it. A lot.

I do. All the time.

We are going to get whacked because we are slacking off on the Design side of the curve. The innovation and invention side. That's the genesis of everything which is ever created, folks.

So you better start believing we need a LOT more higher education in America.

A lot more.

I just want to address the part about us getting whacked on the design part of the curve. You are 100% correct, and a lot of the reason we are getting whacked is shady and or outright illegal behavior by the Chinese who steal our designs and then use slave labor to build products for far less than US companies can. The tarrifs are a VERY strong push to get the Chinese to stop doing this, among other things.

So you should SUPPORT tarrifs that are used for this purpose, as Trump is doing, because you support the US making more on the design end.

Tariffs are not punishment for the theft of intellectual property. They are a punishment of American workers.

Protection against theft of intellectual property rests mostly on the shoulders of the private sector. The US government assists by levying fines against bad actors at home and abroad.

Something a lot of people don't know is that one of the law enforcement arms of ICE is intellectual property protection.

What are you talking about? US law enforcement has no authority in say China where much of this intellectual property theft occurs. We're not talking about people who physically sneak into a building and steal plans for a product. We're talking about people who break in electronically and steal such. ICE and or the FBI have no jurisdiction there, the only people who can stop that are the Chinese government themselves, but since they are behind the thefts that isn't likely unless they are told, here you go we're gonna make your products so expensive to sell in the US that you can't afford to do it unless you stop stealing shit.

Why you would take any tool that the USG has to fight this shit out of their arsenal is anyone's guess.

Breaking in electronically is the same thing as sneaking into a building.

It is upon the private sector to prevent such break-ins.

I would buy your cool story about using tariffs for punishing China if those tariffs specifically targeted products made from stolen intellectual property. But that is not what Trump is doing.

He's performing theater for labor union rubes.

The answer to most of our economic problems is EDUCATION. We need to retool our educational system for the jobs of tomorrow. We can't save the jobs being obsoleted by technology.

But that's hard work. Especially for a limited intellect such as Trump's. Trump is a huckster. He has no actual solutions.

He has never had the intention nor the ability to fulfill any of his promises.

 

[DandyDonovan]

Um what? That's stupid. We actually buy high tech products from China and sell them raw products, for the most part.
Dummy

Allow me to familiarize all of you with what is known as the Smiley Curve of Production:

This represents where the profits are made in the production cycle.

As you can see, the big money is in design phase and the distribution phase.

The design phase is the engineering phase. The invention phase. This is where innovation happens, and innovation happens as the result of higher education.

That is where we are seriously flagging, folks. You know who is kicking ass in this part of the Smiley Curve?

India.

The other end of the Smiley Curve is distribution. The Apple Store. The sales part of the picture. The branding.

It doesn't take a lot of brains to sell shit, and this is where most of our weight is thrown around these days. Service industry bullshit. That's where we are making our money.

But it isn't the idiot low skilled workforce making that money. It's the owners of the company. You want to make money for yourself, you need to be on the other end of the curve, and that requires an education.

There are factories cranking out laptops by the millions, and at the end of the assembly line they glue on corporate logos. And the logo makes all the difference in how much each laptop will sell for. Pretty crazy.

All because of the Smiley Curve.

But you know what? If someone else starts inventing the new shit, do you think they are going to sell it through US outlets, or will they sell through their own outlets and bring all that cash home?

Yeah. So think about that.

Now look at the middle of the curve. There's no money in manufacturing. That's why a lot of shit is made in China by slaves these days.

But America is still manufacturing more stuff than it ever has. It really is. People who tell you America doesn't make things any more are FULL OF SHIT.

It just takes a lot less PEOPLE to make all that STUFF. The wonders of automation.


Look at the curve. Think about it. A lot.

I do. All the time.

We are going to get whacked because we are slacking off on the Design side of the curve. The innovation and invention side. That's the genesis of everything which is ever created, folks.

So you better start believing we need a LOT more higher education in America.

A lot more.

I just want to address the part about us getting whacked on the design part of the curve. You are 100% correct, and a lot of the reason we are getting whacked is shady and or outright illegal behavior by the Chinese who steal our designs and then use slave labor to build products for far less than US companies can. The tarrifs are a VERY strong push to get the Chinese to stop doing this, among other things.

So you should SUPPORT tarrifs that are used for this purpose, as Trump is doing, because you support the US making more on the design end.

Tariffs are not punishment for the theft of intellectual property. They are a punishment of American workers.

Protection against theft of intellectual property rests mostly on the shoulders of the private sector. The US government assists by levying fines against bad actors at home and abroad.

Something a lot of people don't know is that one of the law enforcement arms of ICE is intellectual property protection.

What are you talking about? US law enforcement has no authority in say China where much of this intellectual property theft occurs. We're not talking about people who physically sneak into a building and steal plans for a product. We're talking about people who break in electronically and steal such. ICE and or the FBI have no jurisdiction there, the only people who can stop that are the Chinese government themselves, but since they are behind the thefts that isn't likely unless they are told, here you go we're gonna make your products so expensive to sell in the US that you can't afford to do it unless you stop stealing shit.

Why you would take any tool that the USG has to fight this shit out of their arsenal is anyone's guess.

Breaking in electronically is the same thing as sneaking into a building.

It is upon the private sector to prevent such break-ins.

I would buy your cool story about using tariffs for punishing China if those tariffs specifically targeted products made from stolen intellectual property. But that is not what Trump is doing.

He's performing theater for labor union rubes.

The answer to most of our economic problems is EDUCATION. We need to retool our educational system for the jobs of tomorrow. We can't save the jobs being obsoleted by technology.

But that's hard work. Especially for a limited intellect such as Trump's. Trump is a huckster. He has no actual solutions.

He has never had the intention nor the ability to fulfill any of his promises.

Just factually speaking Trump has already fulfilled quite a few of his promises and the fact that you obviously ignore that based on your dislike of the man tells me that further discussion with you is pointless. Have a nice day.

 

[bendog]

Poor countries which make our T-shirts aren't exactly going to return the favor by buying our high tech products. Where's a Third Worlder going to get that kind of cash?

That's a big reason why we have a trade deficit.

Um what? That's stupid. We actually buy high tech products from China and sell them raw products, for the most part.
Dummy

Allow me to familiarize all of you with what is known as the Smiley Curve of Production:

This represents where the profits are made in the production cycle.

As you can see, the big money is in design phase and the distribution phase.

The design phase is the engineering phase. The invention phase. This is where innovation happens, and innovation happens as the result of higher education.

That is where we are seriously flagging, folks. You know who is kicking ass in this part of the Smiley Curve?

India.

The other end of the Smiley Curve is distribution. The Apple Store. The sales part of the picture. The branding.

It doesn't take a lot of brains to sell shit, and this is where most of our weight is thrown around these days. Service industry bullshit. That's where we are making our money.

But it isn't the idiot low skilled workforce making that money. It's the owners of the company. You want to make money for yourself, you need to be on the other end of the curve, and that requires an education.

There are factories cranking out laptops by the millions, and at the end of the assembly line they glue on corporate logos. And the logo makes all the difference in how much each laptop will sell for. Pretty crazy.

All because of the Smiley Curve.

But you know what? If someone else starts inventing the new shit, do you think they are going to sell it through US outlets, or will they sell through their own outlets and bring all that cash home?

Yeah. So think about that.

Now look at the middle of the curve. There's no money in manufacturing. That's why a lot of shit is made in China by slaves these days.

But America is still manufacturing more stuff than it ever has. It really is. People who tell you America doesn't make things any more are FULL OF SHIT.

It just takes a lot less PEOPLE to make all that STUFF. The wonders of automation.


Look at the curve. Think about it. A lot.

I do. All the time.

We are going to get whacked because we are slacking off on the Design side of the curve. The innovation and invention side. That's the genesis of everything which is ever created, folks.

So you better start believing we need a LOT more higher education in America.

A lot more.

I just want to address the part about us getting whacked on the design part of the curve. You are 100% correct, and a lot of the reason we are getting whacked is shady and or outright illegal behavior by the Chinese who steal our designs and then use slave labor to build products for far less than US companies can. The tarrifs are a VERY strong push to get the Chinese to stop doing this, among other things.

So you should SUPPORT tarrifs that are used for this purpose, as Trump is doing, because you support the US making more on the design end.

Tariffs are not punishment for the theft of intellectual property. They are a punishment of American workers.

Protection against theft of intellectual property rests mostly on the shoulders of the private sector. The US government assists by levying fines against bad actors at home and abroad.

Something a lot of people don't know is that one of the law enforcement arms of ICE is intellectual property protection.

What are you talking about? US law enforcement has no authority in say China where much of this intellectual property theft occurs. We're not talking about people who physically sneak into a building and steal plans for a product. We're talking about people who break in electronically and steal such. ICE and or the FBI have no jurisdiction there, the only people who can stop that are the Chinese government themselves, but since they are behind the thefts that isn't likely unless they are told, here you go we're gonna make your products so expensive to sell in the US that you can't afford to do it unless you stop stealing shit.

Why you would take any tool that the USG has to fight this shit out of their arsenal is anyone's guess.

Again, the issue is not Jina. If it were only Jina, then I'm not sure there'd be a reason to complain

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