Let women in combat units...and the attack on physical fitness standards begins...

2aguy

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Yes......they let women into the combat arms...and now they are attacking the physical fitness standards that make those units effective...we told you this would be the next step...and you social justice warriors laughed at us as you lied through your teeth....

Female Army Colonel Illustrates Why No One Should Listen to Army About Marine Standards | The Stream

In question this time is whether the IOC requirement to carry “up to 152 pounds for 9.3 miles at a 3-mile-per-hour pace in order to graduate” is realistic testing and training for officers, when enlisted Marines test on 60 pounds to complete Infantry Training Battalion and work up to 152 later. She quizzed a handful of Marines who bolstered her doubts (no details on whether they had infantry combat deployment experience, and had she named them they’d bear the same humiliation as she). She found the answer she was looking for and missed the truth she’s studiously ignoring.

She says,

So my question to the Marine Corps is — where did they get these standards, who validated them and who can actually meet them? They don’t appear to be operationally based and it sounds like no Marine infantry unit can meet them. They certainly aren’t regular or recurring requirements to be a Marine infantryman — which means they don’t meet legal standards.

This is a standard tactic of those pushing women into combat units: Denounce the standards that have worked to forge the toughest military in the world as unfairly discriminatory to women so that those standards can be summarily disregarded. That way, more women will pass and feminist policy makers will get their desired quota of female representation in the ranks.

Haring and her ilk expect us to believe that they don’t want the standards lowered for women and then they pull garbage like this. They want us to believe in conflicting realities: on one hand that women can do anything infantrymen can do, and on the other hand that we’re so technologically advanced women won’t have to. They can’t have it both ways, and neither one is true.

Since she couldn’t manage to find anyone to explain why such standards would be useful to infantry leaders in the military’s toughest branch fighting the most ruthless savages we’ve ever seen, allow me to assist.

Heavy Lifting in Ground Combat

In the battle of Najaf, Iraq, in 2004 the Marines had to clear the largest cemetery in the Middle East, the Wadi-us-Salaam, of 14-15,000 of Muqtada Al-Sadr’s Jaish Al Mahdi militia.

With above-ground mausoleums, some over eight feet tall, it was a three-dimensional labyrinth and they had to clear every inch between and on top while fighting enemy insurgents.

Because of the space constraints around the graves and monuments, casualties couldn’t be carried out on stretchers with a two- or four-man carry. A Marine had to carry his fallen brother on his back along with his gear and weapon so as not to let them fall into enemy hands. Thirteen were killed and over one hundred were wounded. That’s a lot of lifting well over 150 lbs and moving over distance with it — that graveyard was 7 miles square. How much weight they could carry quickly over difficult terrain d*** well mattered.
 
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Go to hell.


Who...the one who wants to lower the physical fitness standards which will get our troops killed, or the one trying to keep standards up to save lives?
 
Go to hell.


You don't have to like the truth or reality...but you can't run from it....

Heavy Lifting in Ground Combat

In the battle of Najaf, Iraq, in 2004 the Marines had to clear the largest cemetery in the Middle East, the Wadi-us-Salaam, of 14-15,000 of Muqtada Al-Sadr’s Jaish Al Mahdi militia.

With above-ground mausoleums, some over eight feet tall, it was a three-dimensional labyrinth and they had to clear every inch between and on top while fighting enemy insurgents.

Because of the space constraints around the graves and monuments, casualties couldn’t be carried out on stretchers with a two- or four-man carry. A Marine had to carry his fallen brother on his back along with his gear and weapon so as not to let them fall into enemy hands. Thirteen were killed and over one hundred were wounded. That’s a lot of lifting well over 150 lbs and moving over distance with it — that graveyard was 7 miles square. How much weight they could carry quickly over difficult terrain d*** well mattered.
 
Then figure out a way to break the glass ceiling without them serving in combat.
 
somebody is just pissed because now all these women are allowed to do something he cant
 
Then figure out a way to break the glass ceiling without them serving in combat.

Earn it or STFU
Figure out a way to get pregnant and we'll be even.

Reality sucks .......go get gender reassignment surgery...its all free now
You're avoiding the point.
It is your opinion that women can act in support roles, as they have for years, which take them into war zones where they are subjected to IED's and gunfire same as everyone else, but that experience cannot advance them into a senior position because they can't lift 152 pounds? How retarded, actually, is that?
 
Then figure out a way to break the glass ceiling without them serving in combat.

Earn it or STFU
Figure out a way to get pregnant and we'll be even.

Reality sucks .......go get gender reassignment surgery...its all free now
You're avoiding the point.
It is your opinion that women can act in support roles, as they have for years, which take them into war zones where they are subjected to IED's and gunfire same as everyone else, but that experience cannot advance them into a senior position because they can't lift 152 pounds? How retarded, actually, is that?

Gee life isnt fair....combat even less fair..........nice comparing two different things and then claiming they are the same.....lie much
 
Then figure out a way to break the glass ceiling without them serving in combat.

Earn it or STFU
Figure out a way to get pregnant and we'll be even.

Reality sucks .......go get gender reassignment surgery...its all free now
You're avoiding the point.
It is your opinion that women can act in support roles, as they have for years, which take them into war zones where they are subjected to IED's and gunfire same as everyone else, but that experience cannot advance them into a senior position because they can't lift 152 pounds? How retarded, actually, is that?

Gee life isnt fair....combat even less fair..........nice comparing two different things and then claiming they are the same.....lie much
This combat requirement wouldn't have to be pushed if it wasn't necessary for competing for high level positions in the military. No, that is not fair if you are going to insist women can not meet it. If women can serve and risk their asses same as men, they should be able to advance same as men. Your unfairness will not stand.
 
Then figure out a way to break the glass ceiling without them serving in combat.

Earn it or STFU
Figure out a way to get pregnant and we'll be even.

Reality sucks .......go get gender reassignment surgery...its all free now
You're avoiding the point.
It is your opinion that women can act in support roles, as they have for years, which take them into war zones where they are subjected to IED's and gunfire same as everyone else, but that experience cannot advance them into a senior position because they can't lift 152 pounds? How retarded, actually, is that?


No...it is that they don't get to experience actual combat......something someone in the military would find important as experience since they are trying to be leaders of an organization that is supposed to fight wars.....
 
So, will the photos of the first unit of slaughtered female American infantry be considered more or less disgusting than the photos of My Lai?
 
So, will the photos of the first unit of slaughtered female American infantry be considered more or less disgusting than the photos of My Lai?
The gender of the soldiers shouldn't really matter.
 
Then figure out a way to break the glass ceiling without them serving in combat.

Earn it or STFU
Figure out a way to get pregnant and we'll be even.

Reality sucks .......go get gender reassignment surgery...its all free now
You're avoiding the point.
It is your opinion that women can act in support roles, as they have for years, which take them into war zones where they are subjected to IED's and gunfire same as everyone else, but that experience cannot advance them into a senior position because they can't lift 152 pounds? How retarded, actually, is that?


No...it is that they don't get to experience actual combat......something someone in the military would find important as experience since they are trying to be leaders of an organization that is supposed to fight wars.....
Well, you've got it all sewn up, don't you, to ensure no soldier will have to take orders from a woman? Which is the real problem.
 
Earn it or STFU
Figure out a way to get pregnant and we'll be even.

Reality sucks .......go get gender reassignment surgery...its all free now
You're avoiding the point.
It is your opinion that women can act in support roles, as they have for years, which take them into war zones where they are subjected to IED's and gunfire same as everyone else, but that experience cannot advance them into a senior position because they can't lift 152 pounds? How retarded, actually, is that?

Gee life isnt fair....combat even less fair..........nice comparing two different things and then claiming they are the same.....lie much
This combat requirement wouldn't have to be pushed if it wasn't necessary for competing for high level positions in the military. No, that is not fair if you are going to insist women can not meet it. If women can serve and risk their asses same as men, they should be able to advance same as men. Your unfairness will not stand.
LLMMAAOOOOOO ........Jst meet the standard...its there for a reason......its served us well........and instead of whining you can be proud
 
Simple enough solution... set standard, require all soldiers and marines to meet it.

Now, when I was in, I had a real problem passing the running part of the APFT. Not that my actual job in the military ever involved any running, but dammit, they wanted you to be able to run, dammit!
 

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