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We were fooled once with Iraq (sorta twice), almost in North Korea, and now the bush admin. is working on the third attempt at getting this country to rise in arms against another non-threat. I truly wonder how stupid some people must be to not be able to see how the government wants us to forget about the failed war in Iraq by making up new "threats to freedom". Terrorism only exists if you allow yourself to be convinced that it exists.
Now how about more specifics to respond to? 
We were fooled once with Iraq (sorta twice), almost in North Korea, and now the bush admin. is working on the third attempt at getting this country to rise in arms against another non-threat. I truly wonder how stupid some people must be to not be able to see how the government wants us to forget about the failed war in Iraq by making up new "threats to freedom". Terrorism only exists if you allow yourself to be convinced that it exists.
Maybe you want to ask the families of the 250 people who were taken hostage in Iran and held for almost 2 yrs in 1979..
and of all our military barracks bombed in Africa and the bombings in Bali and the first trade center bombing, the Oklahoma Meir building bombing, all our embassy's bombed over seas, the USS Cole bombing, airplanes HIJACKED.......................9/11
Yea...terrorism is just a figment of "YOUR IMAGIMATION"..
But some of us live.........IN THE REAL WORLD..
OR...maybe you weren't born to see ALL THOSE...or maybe you just have your head up your....in the sand...
And some of us actually assess threats rationally and don't run about flailing their arms and making absurd decisions based on fear and 30 year old grudges.
This would be hilarious if not for the fact your defending the idea that somehow we are not at war with a global terrorist threat aimed right at us.
I wait with bated breath for your sudden turn around if and when Hillary tells you in 2009 the war is real. Suddenly all the "evil" government pronouncements will be enlightened. The war will be "just" and the "intel" perfect. Gitmo will just be a Naval base again and troop rotations in and out of Iraq just the normal business of a "just" battle to save an ally.
Iran will suddenly actually be working on a nuclear bomb and any action taken by Hillary will be the "right" thing to do. he exact same people all will still be working in all the intel agencies, all the Government agencies , law enforcement and the military, but suddenly they will "know" the truth.
When the Patriot act is renewed and Hillary signs it, it will be a necassary bill designed to protect us from enemies and of course you will suddenly remember the built in end date. When Hillary allows all the supposed evil actions of Bush to stand and makes them even tougher, it will be OK cause she is just "protecting" us.
Maybe you want to ask the families of the 250 people who were taken hostage in Iran and held for almost 2 yrs in 1979..
and of all our military barracks bombed in Africa and the bombings in Bali and the first trade center bombing,
the Oklahoma Meir building bombing,
all our embassy's bombed over seas, the USS Cole bombing, airplanes HIJACKED.......................9/11
Yea...terrorism is just a figment of "YOUR IMAGIMATION"..
But some of us live.........IN THE REAL WORLD..
OR...maybe you weren't born to see ALL THOSE...or maybe you just have your head up your....in the sand...
We were fooled once with Iraq (sorta twice), almost in North Korea, and now the bush admin. is working on the third attempt at getting this country to rise in arms against another non-threat. I truly wonder how stupid some people must be to not be able to see how the government wants us to forget about the failed war in Iraq by making up new "threats to freedom". Terrorism only exists if you allow yourself to be convinced that it exists.
Maybe you want to ask the families of the 250 people who were taken hostage in Iran and held for almost 2 yrs in 1979..
and of all our military barracks bombed in Africa and the bombings in Bali and the first trade center bombing, the Oklahoma Meir building bombing, all our embassy's bombed over seas, the USS Cole bombing, airplanes HIJACKED.......................9/11
Yea...terrorism is just a figment of "YOUR IMAGIMATION"..
But some of us live.........IN THE REAL WORLD..
OR...maybe you weren't born to see ALL THOSE...or maybe you just have your head up your....in the sand...
lol. My point went completely over your head, which is okay. Hopefully it won't go over the heads of voters, b/c I think Americans are finally seeing the the shit in the sunshine that our government defines as terrorism.Ya, b/c none of those incidents arose from as a result from our past foreign policy
MY MY MY, you "DO" make a lot of unfounded assumptions, don't you???This would be hilarious if not for the fact your defending the idea that somehow we are not at war with a global terrorist threat aimed right at us.
I wait with bated breath for your sudden turn around if and when Hillary tells you in 2009 the war is real. Suddenly all the "evil" government pronouncements will be enlightened. The war will be "just" and the "intel" perfect. Gitmo will just be a Naval base again and troop rotations in and out of Iraq just the normal business of a "just" battle to save an ally.
Iran will suddenly actually be working on a nuclear bomb and any action taken by Hillary will be the "right" thing to do. he exact same people all will still be working in all the intel agencies, all the Government agencies , law enforcement and the military, but suddenly they will "know" the truth.
When the Patriot act is renewed and Hillary signs it, it will be a necassary bill designed to protect us from enemies and of course you will suddenly remember the built in end date. When Hillary allows all the supposed evil actions of Bush to stand and makes them even tougher, it will be OK cause she is just "protecting" us.
This would be hilarious if not for the fact your defending the idea that somehow we are not at war with a global terrorist threat aimed right at us.
I wait with bated breath for your sudden turn around if and when Hillary tells you in 2009 the war is real. Suddenly all the "evil" government pronouncements will be enlightened. The war will be "just" and the "intel" perfect. Gitmo will just be a Naval base again and troop rotations in and out of Iraq just the normal business of a "just" battle to save an ally.
Iran will suddenly actually be working on a nuclear bomb and any action taken by Hillary will be the "right" thing to do. he exact same people all will still be working in all the intel agencies, all the Government agencies , law enforcement and the military, but suddenly they will "know" the truth.
When the Patriot act is renewed and Hillary signs it, it will be a necassary bill designed to protect us from enemies and of course you will suddenly remember the built in end date. When Hillary allows all the supposed evil actions of Bush to stand and makes them even tougher, it will be OK cause she is just "protecting" us.
And you think failing to distinguish between Arab groups, not understanding the differences between Shi'a and Sunni, flailing blindly with hate at anyone who is muslim... is the way to deal with the "global war on terrorism".
There is no such thing as a global war on Terrorism. There are wars against countries. If WWII had been a "global war on Fascism", we'd still be fighting.
What people have to undestand is the terrorists don't have armies. You don't use an army to fight them. Yes, you make targeted strikes agains their centers, but you don't wage war against their countries any more than you would expect someone to wage war against this country because we "harbor" terrorists.... (and by that I mean we have groups, cells, pockets of terrorists.... you think we should be blown up for that?).
So, yes, by all means assess threats and deal with them. But stupidly, blindly and irrationally striking out at anyone and everyone who is muslim (except saudi arabia and quatar and abu d'abi, of course, cause they're [incomprehensibly] our buds) advances no interest of the people of this country... though it does put a lot of money into haliburton, blackwater, and all the other companies that are going to benefit from your guys stripping our resources and privatizing everything.
It is about predominately Muslim majority countries, but new actors are also entering the arena, not necessarily through terrorism, though by their actions they hope to keep US tied up. That would be primarily China and Russia. Then there is Africa and South/Central America, while certainly not on the scale of China and Russia, are being courted and/or jockeying for positions with differing spheres of influence. So too in the Asia, sides are being chosen, though the ties are not strong, yet.None of that happened. And YES you do identify enemy states and you do what ever it takes to shut them down. Terrorists do not exist in some vacuum. They are given training facilities, money arms and materials by COUNTRIES. Any Country that harbors a threat to us needs to understand the consequences may be out right WAR.
The war on terror is NOT a police action. It is not a law enforcement issue, except inside and at our borders. That you can not fathom that is why we may lose.
And like it or not WE ARE AT WAR with at least a large segment of the Muslim religion. We have not blindly done anything. Ohh and can you point us to any pograms of muslims inside this country or any other western nation? Tired ignorant red herring designed to throw smoke.
And I notice you did not deny that when Hillary continues all the Bush initiatives you won't be in the streets calling her a liar or retard.
What is also clear is that the reconfiguration of world politics requires that we make intelligent assessments and have leadership who can see six moves ahead on the chess board. It doesn't help us that for the past 7 years, while all of these changes have been occurring, our "leaders" have been blindly dogmatic, xenophobic, arrogant, heavy-handed and disingenuous.
What is also clear is that the reconfiguration of world politics requires that we make intelligent assessments and have leadership who can see six moves ahead on the chess board. It doesn't help us that for the past 7 years, while all of these changes have been occurring, our "leaders" have been blindly dogmatic, xenophobic, arrogant, heavy-handed and disingenuous.
Main Entry:
xe·no·pho·bia Listen to the pronunciation of xenophobia
Pronunciation:
\ˌze-nə-ˈfō-bē-ə, ˌzē-\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
New Latin
Date:
1903
: fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign
