Legalizing Hemp - Ridiculous

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    After a while it just becomes bizaar. Ron Paul and Barney Frank (Political Criminal #1 for 2009, Indiana Oracle [political criminals]), just introduced legislation to legalize growing industrial (non-psychoactive) hemp in the US.

    Besides being beside the point of anything resembling material importance, it seems Barney, eyeing a circling drain before him, will do anything to keep the light off his AIG and mortgage meltdown culpability.

    Is this, really, what we pay these people to do? I hope they are not imagining this nonsense will help in the "war on drugs", but it would not surprise me to hear them say it.
     
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    You obviously don't know much about hemp. Hemp is a MIRACULOUS crop with dozens of different uses. This is actually a positive thing the government does for once.
     
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    Hemp Facts

    HISTORY FACTS

    *Hemp has been grown for at least the last 12,000 years for fiber (textiles and paper) and food. It has been effectively prohibited in the United States since the 1950s.

    *George Washington and Thomas Jefferson both grew hemp. Ben Franklin owned a mill that made hemp paper. Jefferson drafted the Declaration of Independence on hemp paper.

    *When US sources of "Manila hemp" (not true hemp) was cut off by the Japanese in WWII, the US Army and US Department of Agriculture promoted the "Hemp for Victory" campaign to grow hemp in the US.

    *Because of its importance for sails (the word "canvass" is rooted in "cannabis") and rope for ships, hemp was a required crop in the American colonies.



    INDUSTRY FACTS

    *Henry Ford experimented with hemp to build car bodies. He wanted to build and fuel cars from farm products.

    *BMW is experimenting with hemp materials in automobiles as part of an effort to make cars more recyclable.

    *Much of the bird seed sold in the US has hemp seed (it's sterilized before importation), the hulls of which contain about 25% protein.

    *Hemp oil once greased machines. Most paints, resins, shellacs, and varnishes used to be made out of linseed (from flax) and hemp oils.

    *Rudolph Diesel designed his engine to run on hemp oil.

    *Kimberly Clark (on the Fortune 500) has a mill in France which produces hemp paper preferred for bibles because it lasts a very long time and doesn't yellow.

    *Construction products such as medium density fiber board, oriented strand board, and even beams, studs and posts could be made out of hemp. Because of hemp's long fibers, the products will be stronger and/or lighter than those made from wood.

    *The products that can be made from hemp number over 25,000.



    SCIENTIFIC FACTS

    *Industrial hemp and marijuana are both classified by taxonomists as Cannabis sativa, a species with hundreds of varieties. C. sativa is a member of the mulberry family. Industrial hemp is bred to maximize fiber, seed and/or oil, while marijuana varieties seek to maximize THC (delta 9 tetrahydrocannabinol, the primary psychoactive ingredient in marijuana).

    *While industrial hemp and marijuana may look somewhat alike to an untrained eye, an easily trained eye can easily distinguish the difference.

    *Industrial hemp has a THC content of between 0.05 and 1%. Marijuana has a THC content of 3% to 20%. To receive a standard psychoactive dose would require a person to power-smoke 10-12 hemp cigarettes over an extremely short period of time. The large volume and high temperature of vapor, gas and smoke would be almost impossible for a person to withstand.

    *If hemp does pollinate any nearby marijuana, genetically, the result will always be lower-THC marijuana, not higher-THC hemp. If hemp is grown outdoors, marijuana will not be grown close by to avoid producing lower-grade marijuana.

    *Hemp fibers are longer, stronger, more absorbent and more mildew-resistant than cotton.

    *Fabrics made of at least one-half hemp block the sun's UV rays more effectively than other fabrics.

    *Many of the varieties of hemp that were grown in North America have been lost. Seed banks weren't maintained. New genetic breeding will be necessary using both foreign and domestic "ditchweed," strains of hemp that went feral after cultivation ended. Various state national guard units often spend their weekends trying to eradicate this hemp, in the mistaken belief they are helping stop drug use.

    *A 1938 Popular Mechanics described hemp as a "New Billion Dollar Crop." That's back when a billion was real money.

    *Hemp can be made in to a variety of fabrics, including linen quality.



    LEGAL FACTS

    *The US Drug Enforcement Agency classifies all C. sativa varieties as "marijuana." While it is theoretically possible to get permission from the government to grow hemp, DEA would require that the field be secured by fence, razor wire, dogs, guards, and lights, making it cost-prohibitive.

    *The US State Department must certify each year that a foreign nation is cooperating in the war on drugs. The European Union subsidizes its farmers to grow industrial hemp. Those nations are not on this list, because the State Department can tell the difference between hemp and marijuana.

    *Hemp was grown commercially (with increasing governmental interference) in the United States until the 1950s. It was doomed by the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937, which placed an extremely high tax on marijuana and made it effectively impossible to grow industrial hemp. While Congress expressly expected the continued production of industrial hemp, the Federal Bureau of Narcotics lumped industrial hemp with marijuana, as it's successor the US Drug Enforcement Administration, does to this day.

    *Over 30 industrialized democracies do distinguish hemp from marijuana. International treaties regarding marijuana make an exception for industrial hemp.

    *Canada now again allows the growing of hemp.



    ECOLOGY FACTS

    * Hemp growers can not hide marijuana plants in their fields. Marijuana is grown widely spaced to maximize leaves. Hemp is grown in tightly-spaced rows to maximize stalk and is usually harvested before it goes to seed.

    *Hemp can be made into fine quality paper. The long fibers in hemp allow such paper to be recycled several times more than wood-based paper.

    *Because of its low lignin content, hemp can be pulped using less chemicals than with wood. Its natural brightness can obviate the need to use chlorine bleach, which means no extremely toxic dioxin being dumped into streams. A kinder and gentler chemistry using hydrogen peroxide rather than chlorine dixoide is possible with hemp fibers.

    *Hemp grows well in a variety of climates and soil types. It is naturally resistant to most pests, precluding the need for pesticides. It grows tightly spaced, out-competing any weeds, so herbicides are not necessary. It also leaves a weed-free field for a following crop.

    *Hemp can displace cotton which is usually grown with massive amounts of chemicals harmful to people and the environment. 50% of all the world's pesticides are sprayed on cotton.

    *Hemp can displace wood fiber and save forests for watershed, wildlife habitat, recreation and oxygen production, carbon sequestration (reduces global warming), and other values.

    *Hemp can yield 3-8 dry tons of fiber per acre. This is four times what an average forest can yield.



    HEALTH FACTS

    *If one tried to ingest enough industrial hemp to get 'a buzz', it would be the equivalent of taking 2-3 doses of a high-fiber laxative.

    *At a volume level of 81%, hemp oil is the richest known source of polyunsaturated essential fatty acids (the "good" fats). It's quite high in some essential amino acids, including gamma linoleic acid (GLA), a very rare nutrient also found in mother's milk.

    *While the original "gruel" was made of hemp seed meal, hemp oil and seed can be made into tasty and nutritional products.
     
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    This is just as daffy as Barney Frank-ulous proposing the "Pay For Performance Act of 2009".
     
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    I'm just surprised Frank and Paul are working together on something. They no doubt have opposite views on financial matters and I'm sure they butt heads daily in the house financial services committee.

    But good, hopefully with someone like Frank sponsoring this, it can get passed.

    Hemp replaces dozens of major industries in this country, like cotton, petrochemicals, and it can also be used as a bio fuel.

    Why WOULDN'T we want to legalize it for industrial use???
     
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    I don't know why they would not want to legalize it. Maybe because it is multi billion dollar industry that is not being taxed(probably not Ron's reasons), they are not winning the war on drugs with it being illegal and are using billions in tax dollars to enforce it being illegal every year. YOu can also make many products out of hemp such as clothing, lotions, soap, shampoo, etc. When you have 13 million people out of work, I applaud them for trying to find solutions to this problem.
     
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    If there is one thing I wish Washington would concentrate on more it is immediate income for Americans. Deciding to legalize hemp farming in the US is fine. It should not have been illegal to begin with.

    Not intending to - in any way - slam any of the comments so far that assume I need help understanding what hemp is and can do, it is totally beside the point relative to today's most immediate problems - proposed Washington solutions for which are all but non-existent.

    Washington focusing more on how we would like the US to be and not upon what to do improve how it is today, says a lot of things, but is going to cause major social problems if the present trajectory is not changed.
     
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    Indiana Oracle...
    Just like the IT revolution was the driver behind America's economic surge in the 80's, the ET revolution WILL be the driver for the next economic surge...

    Do YOU prefer it be China, Korea, Japan...???


    We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.
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    1962 - Rice University, Houston, Texas
     
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    Hemp, as others have pointed out, has a broad range of uses outside that of a psychoactive drug. Plus, smoking marijuana is less dangerous and certainly less addictive than consuming alcohol or tobacco/nicotine.
     
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    Hemp is a sister plant of marijuana anyways. You'd have to smoke a 20 foot tall cigar to feel the same effects as pot. It's the most absurd regulation ever passed, but can we expect nothing but absurdity from government?
     

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