Legal to lie about combat medals

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    "The Associated Press
    Posted : Wednesday Aug 18, 2010 9:20:34 EDT
    PASADENA, Calif. — A federal appeals court panel ruled Tuesday that people have a right to lie about receiving military medals, the second federal court decision in a month to go against the Stolen Valor Act. Xavier Alvarez, who falsely claimed in 2007 to have received the Medal of Honor, challenged the law on appeal after he was charged with violating the act, which makes it a crime to falsely claim to have won a military medal.
    Alvarez said the act is a violation of free-speech rights. A panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals sided with Alvarez in a 2-1 decision. The majority said there was no evidence that such lies harm anybody, and there is no compelling reason for the government to ban such lies."


    Since the courts have decided that is legal to lie does that make morally right? What about the politicians who have been forced to resign for falsely claiming to have earned medals? Should they be forced out of office?

    Men and woman have been dying and sacrificing their minds and bodies for this country for centuries. Rulings such as these cast a shadow on all of their medals. So is it is legal to wear a full military uniform with medals in public without ever serving in the military?

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    Fox news won the case to lie to their viewers long ago
     
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    Probably better put to say that it is not illegal to lie.
     
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    Veterans have been lying about their service record ever since there have been wars

    You can lie about being a doctor, lie about being a professional baseball player, lie about being a lawyer

    Why would a lie about your military record be a crime?
     
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    So would it be wrong for Obama to dress in full military dress (of course he is the cic of the armed forces so he can) and wear the medal of honor?
     
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    Liars about their service do nothing nut cheapen the sacrifices of the real heroes.
     
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    It's not legal to lie about being a doctor and then practicing medicine.

    I think it should be illegal to lie about a military record if it allows for advancement, special treatment, or monitary gain. It's fraud.
     
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    Yes they do.

    How many veterans lie about being in combat?
    How many lie about war injuries?
    How many lie about their rank?

    Should they be prosecuted?
     
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    Yes, I can't stand fake heroes. I believe the Stolen Valor act should be re-instated and yes the fakes should be prosecuted.
     
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    I agree

    There is a difference in lying for monetary gain and lying in trying to get laid
     

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