Legal Arguments In The Media: The Great Unraveling Of President Donald Trump's Defenses

[JBvM]

The Great Unraveling Of President Donald Trump's Defenses

The President Will Not Be Under Oath, So He Is Under No Obligation To Tell The Truth To The American People"

Is this what the grand experiment in republican self-government has come to?

MSNBC
Published on Dec 17, 2018
WaPo’s Aaron Blake, MSNBC analyst Elise Jordan, former Rep. David Jolly, former U.S. atty Harry Litman, and former fed prosecutor Paul Butler on the weekend twitter spree over the multiple investigations he's facing & more bizarre statements from his attorney Rudy Giuliani​

Are presidents now to be held to a low standard by their supporters? When Bill Clinton was found to have lied about relations with Monica, the media and many of his supporters were devastated and turned on him, but the nastiness and gutter politics of the rightwing had people defending Clinton against impeachment .. and we found almost all of the leaders of the impeachment move in the US House were creepier when it came to sexual relations and marriage vows than Clinton ever was.

When GHW Bush did the brave thing and went back on a promise to not raise new taxes, he was excoriated for doing the right thing for a greater good. than for his own reelection prospects.

Now we have Trump...

 

[Auld Phart]

Bet they based that on Clintons testimony

 

[Third Party]

The Great Unraveling Of President Donald Trump's Defenses

The President Will Not Be Under Oath, So He Is Under No Obligation To Tell The Truth To The American People"

Is this what the grand experiment in republican self-government has come to?

MSNBC
Published on Dec 17, 2018
WaPo’s Aaron Blake, MSNBC analyst Elise Jordan, former Rep. David Jolly, former U.S. atty Harry Litman, and former fed prosecutor Paul Butler on the weekend twitter spree over the multiple investigations he's facing & more bizarre statements from his attorney Rudy Giuliani​

Are presidents now to be held to a low standard by their supporters? When Bill Clinton was found to have lied about relations with Monica, the media and many of his supporters were devastated and turned on him, but the nastiness and gutter politics of the rightwing had people defending Clinton against impeachment .. and we found almost all of the leaders of the impeachment move in the US House were creepier when it came to sexual relations and marriage vows than Clinton ever was.

When GHW Bush did the brave thing and went back on a promise to not raise new taxes, he was excoriated for doing the right thing for a greater good. than for his own reelection prospects.

Now we have Trump...

Sorry, but right now Trump IS the greater good.

 

[DGS49]

Essentially all of Trump's well-documented "lies" are harmless exaggerations, slanted views, hyperbole, or totally inconsequential. People who "keep score" on such things are sophomoric tools.

Often, he is excoriated from having legitimate views that are different from those of the Deep State (getting out of Syria, Global Fucking Warming, tariffs, etc.).

The proof of how irrelevant this issue is, is how they ignore O'Bama's many SIGNIFICANT lies, and his knowing violations of the Constitution and breaking his oath of office numerous times.

 

[Asclepias]

Even though I voted no there are some instances where a POTUS should keep his trap shut for the good of the country.

 

[JBvM]

Bet they based that on Clintons testimony

The weird thing is how you always respond as if English is your second language.

Since Trump hasn't testified under oath, what do you believe you've come across as a defense that Trump's testimony is based on Clinton's? What testimony?

 

[JBvM]

The Great Unraveling Of President Donald Trump's Defenses

The President Will Not Be Under Oath, So He Is Under No Obligation To Tell The Truth To The American People"

Is this what the grand experiment in republican self-government has come to?

MSNBC
Published on Dec 17, 2018
WaPo’s Aaron Blake, MSNBC analyst Elise Jordan, former Rep. David Jolly, former U.S. atty Harry Litman, and former fed prosecutor Paul Butler on the weekend twitter spree over the multiple investigations he's facing & more bizarre statements from his attorney Rudy Giuliani​

Are presidents now to be held to a low standard by their supporters? When Bill Clinton was found to have lied about relations with Monica, the media and many of his supporters were devastated and turned on him, but the nastiness and gutter politics of the rightwing had people defending Clinton against impeachment .. and we found almost all of the leaders of the impeachment move in the US House were creepier when it came to sexual relations and marriage vows than Clinton ever was.

When GHW Bush did the brave thing and went back on a promise to not raise new taxes, he was excoriated for doing the right thing for a greater good. than for his own reelection prospects.

Now we have Trump...

Sorry, but right now Trump IS the greater good.

 

[Oddball]

If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.

Nobody making less than $250,000 will see their taxes increase by a dime.

You'll save $2,500 with my plan.

I didn't know about Hillary's private e-mail server until I heard about it on the news.

 

[JBvM]

Essentially all of Trump's well-documented "lies" are harmless exaggerations, slanted views, hyperbole, or totally inconsequential. People who "keep score" on such things are sophomoric tools.

Often, he is excoriated from having legitimate views that are different from those of the Deep State (getting out of Syria, Global Fucking Warming, tariffs, etc.).

The proof of how irrelevant this issue is, is how they ignore O'Bama's many SIGNIFICANT lies, and his knowing violations of the Constitution and breaking his oath of office numerous times.

"harmless exaggerations, slanted views, hyperbole, or totally inconsequential?" wait till we start paying the price in American lives for his lies about a NK deal and his antics with Iran.

and tell that to the Kurds Trump stabbed in the back

 

[JBvM]

If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.

Nobody making less than $250,000 will see their taxes increase by a dime.

You'll save $2,500 with my plan.

I didn't know about Hillary's private e-mail server until I heard about it on the news.

most people who had employer based plans kept them,, correct?

most Ameicans had plans

Because so many of the Affordable Care Act's provisions apply to the individual market, the employer-sponsored insurance market is sometimes left out of the discussion. But employer-sponsored health insurance is by far the most common form of coverage in the US. Only about 7% of Americans had coverage purchased in the individual market in 2017, as opposed to 49% who had coverage from an employer. How Obamacare Changed Employer-Sponsored Health Insurance​

l
Sean Spicer
White House Press Secretary

Claimed that “because of Obamacare, premiums on everybody have gone up … whether you’re in an employer-based system or not.”
Employer Premiums and the ACA - FactCheck.org

 

[Oddball]

If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.

Nobody making less than $250,000 will see their taxes increase by a dime.

You'll save $2,500 with my plan.

I didn't know about Hillary's private e-mail server until I heard about it on the news.

most people who had employer based plans kept them,, correct?

most Ameicans had plans

Because so many of the Affordable Care Act's provisions apply to the individual market, the employer-sponsored insurance market is sometimes left out of the discussion. But employer-sponsored health insurance is by far the most common form of coverage in the US. Only about 7% of Americans had coverage purchased in the individual market in 2017, as opposed to 49% who had coverage from an employer. How Obamacare Changed Employer-Sponsored Health Insurance​

l
Sean Spicer
White House Press Secretary

Claimed that “because of Obamacare, premiums on everybody have gone up … whether you’re in an employer-based system or not.”
Employer Premiums and the ACA - FactCheck.org

Way to move them goalposts, Chumlee.

 

[JBvM]

If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.

Nobody making less than $250,000 will see their taxes increase by a dime.

You'll save $2,500 with my plan.

I didn't know about Hillary's private e-mail server until I heard about it on the news.

most people who had employer based plans kept them,, correct?

most Ameicans had plans

Because so many of the Affordable Care Act's provisions apply to the individual market, the employer-sponsored insurance market is sometimes left out of the discussion. But employer-sponsored health insurance is by far the most common form of coverage in the US. Only about 7% of Americans had coverage purchased in the individual market in 2017, as opposed to 49% who had coverage from an employer. How Obamacare Changed Employer-Sponsored Health Insurance​

l
Sean Spicer
White House Press Secretary

Claimed that “because of Obamacare, premiums on everybody have gone up … whether you’re in an employer-based system or not.”
Employer Premiums and the ACA - FactCheck.org

Way to move them goalposts, Chumlee.

No goal posts have been moved. Obama is not president. Trump is.

way to deflect - Poindexter

 

[Oddball]

If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.

Nobody making less than $250,000 will see their taxes increase by a dime.

You'll save $2,500 with my plan.

I didn't know about Hillary's private e-mail server until I heard about it on the news.

most people who had employer based plans kept them,, correct?

most Ameicans had plans

Because so many of the Affordable Care Act's provisions apply to the individual market, the employer-sponsored insurance market is sometimes left out of the discussion. But employer-sponsored health insurance is by far the most common form of coverage in the US. Only about 7% of Americans had coverage purchased in the individual market in 2017, as opposed to 49% who had coverage from an employer. How Obamacare Changed Employer-Sponsored Health Insurance​

l
Sean Spicer
White House Press Secretary

Claimed that “because of Obamacare, premiums on everybody have gone up … whether you’re in an employer-based system or not.”
Employer Premiums and the ACA - FactCheck.org

Way to move them goalposts, Chumlee.

No goal posts have been moved. Obama is not president. Trump is.

way to deflect - Poindexter

My plan was basically outlawed, making his pronouncements outright lies....Your "fact check" is unadulterated bullshit.

So stuff that in your pipe and smoke it, tovarich.

 

[JBvM]

My plan was basically outlawed, making his pronouncements outright lies....Your "fact check" is unadulterated bullshit.

So stuff that in your pipe and smoke it, tovarich.

lots of people had shit plans. not sure about yours.

too bad you didn't have mental health included in your plan. Who knows, you might have been better adjusted, if not happier in the world

 

[JBvM]

The Great Unraveling Of President Donald Trump's Defenses

The President Will Not Be Under Oath, So He Is Under No Obligation To Tell The Truth To The American People"

Is this what the grand experiment in republican self-government has come to?

MSNBC
Published on Dec 17, 2018
WaPo’s Aaron Blake, MSNBC analyst Elise Jordan, former Rep. David Jolly, former U.S. atty Harry Litman, and former fed prosecutor Paul Butler on the weekend twitter spree over the multiple investigations he's facing & more bizarre statements from his attorney Rudy Giuliani​

Are presidents now to be held to a low standard by their supporters? When Bill Clinton was found to have lied about relations with Monica, the media and many of his supporters were devastated and turned on him, but the nastiness and gutter politics of the rightwing had people defending Clinton against impeachment .. and we found almost all of the leaders of the impeachment move in the US House were creepier when it came to sexual relations and marriage vows than Clinton ever was.

When GHW Bush did the brave thing and went back on a promise to not raise new taxes, he was excoriated for doing the right thing for a greater good. than for his own reelection prospects.

Now we have Trump...

But what is his NEW defense? It changes so often I doubt he'll ever be able to testify without tripping over his own bullshit claims

 

[Auld Phart]

Bet they based that on Clintons testimony

The weird thing is how you always respond as if English is your second language.

Since Trump hasn't testified under oath, what do you believe you've come across as a defense that Trump's testimony is based on Clinton's? What testimony?

'ah did not have sex with that woman, Moonica Lewinsky'

Stop picking nits

 

[JBvM]

Bet they based that on Clintons testimony

The weird thing is how you always respond as if English is your second language.

Since Trump hasn't testified under oath, what do you believe you've come across as a defense that Trump's testimony is based on Clinton's? What testimony?

'ah did not have sex with that woman, Moonica Lewinsky'

Stop picking nits

and he was impeached (prosecuted) and then a judgement of not guilty. OK

Trump's turn


Trump's turn



Trump's turn

 

[Auld Phart]

Bet they based that on Clintons testimony

The weird thing is how you always respond as if English is your second language.

Since Trump hasn't testified under oath, what do you believe you've come across as a defense that Trump's testimony is based on Clinton's? What testimony?

'ah did not have sex with that woman, Moonica Lewinsky'

Stop picking nits

and he was impeached (prosecuted) and then a judgement of not guilty. OK

rump's turn

and the same result.

 

[JBvM]

Bet they based that on Clintons testimony

The weird thing is how you always respond as if English is your second language.

Since Trump hasn't testified under oath, what do you believe you've come across as a defense that Trump's testimony is based on Clinton's? What testimony?

'ah did not have sex with that woman, Moonica Lewinsky'

Stop picking nits

and he was impeached (prosecuted) and then a judgement of not guilty. OK

rump's turn

and the same result.

Don't be so sure sweetie. When blood is in the water .. just ask Dickless Nixon

 

[Auld Phart]

Bet they based that on Clintons testimony

The weird thing is how you always respond as if English is your second language.

Since Trump hasn't testified under oath, what do you believe you've come across as a defense that Trump's testimony is based on Clinton's? What testimony?

'ah did not have sex with that woman, Moonica Lewinsky'

Stop picking nits

and he was impeached (prosecuted) and then a judgement of not guilty. OK

rump's turn

and the same result.

Don't be so sure sweetie. When blood is in the water .. just ask Dickless Nixon

Nixon was impeached?