Leftists Like Sex Offenders

Gee Zoom, could be a bit more honest about why Tom is offering up this amendment now.

While banning the coverage of those drugs would save money, it would also create new policy. And under budget rules, would probably need 60 votes instead of the 51 usually required during budget reconciliation.

So while Tom and his fellow other Republicans are now offering up amendments trying to act like patriotic Americans, in reality, all they're doing is playing political games.

Gee Dog, that they want the bill sent back is a given. Didn't really think it needed to be pointed out.

So, do you think sex offenders prefer the four hour or the 36 hour Cialis?
 
It's a sneaky ploy by Cons .. to change the bill in anyway would send it back to congress.


After how this bill was passed, with all the deals, payoffs, and the shoving down the throats of the American people . . . . you actually had the balls to write this? Unbelievable.

Believe it.

You'd think I'd have learned it better by now. :redface: My mistake is that I keep having faith that they'll realize what has happened.
 
It's a sneaky ploy by Cons .. to change the bill in anyway would send it back to congress.


After how this bill was passed, with all the deals, payoffs, and the shoving down the throats of the American people . . . . you actually had the balls to write this? Unbelievable.

well if the pubs hadn't tried to obstruct the bill ....the dems wouldn't have had to do do anything sneaky....it isn't like they had a majority or anything....
 
Gee Zoom, could be a bit more honest about why Tom is offering up this amendment now.

While banning the coverage of those drugs would save money, it would also create new policy. And under budget rules, would probably need 60 votes instead of the 51 usually required during budget reconciliation.
So while Tom and his fellow other Republicans are now offering up amendments trying to act like patriotic Americans, in reality, all they're doing is playing political games.

Gee Dog, that they want the bill sent back is a given. Didn't really think it needed to be pointed out.

So, do you think sex offenders prefer the four hour or the 36 hour Cialis?
Isn't that a question you should be asking your boyfriend?
 
For your information, the Senate is not voting for or against these amendments. The Democrats move to table each amendment which in affect kills the amendment. So there is no actual vote for or against the amendment. Pretty smart.
 
If Coburn feels so strongly about this amendment, he can offer it up. Right now after this bill passes.

That way, the focus can be on that bill and that bill alone. If he still believes in it in that case.

But now during debate is when you offer amendments Not after a bill is law.

As I understand it, if a reconcilliation bill is amended in any way that changes policy, the bill can no longer be approved with 51 votes. Both sides know this. It was the whole point of doing this through reconcilliation. The GOP knows only amendments about budgets and not programs has even a snow ball chance in hell of passing. This is political theater, plain and simple. As has been the behavior of the GOP during this entire administration and unfortunately some of our fellow citizens have bought it hook, line, and sinker.
 
the gop shows how desperate and immature they are. any ads they run about this vote will just be ridiculed to death as it should
 
Yup, just as predicted:

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/03/24/gonna-backfire/#comments


But hey, here's a good response:

Today, the Louisiana Democratic Party suggested that Senator Tom Coburn expand his proposed amendment to the health care reconciliation bill prohibiting coverage of erectile dysfunction medications to child molesters, rapists and sex offenders to include those who admit or are convicted of prostitution or prostitution-related crimes.

“If Senator Coburn believes that federal law should not allow coverage of erectile dysfunction medications to folks whose impulses have led them to break the law, then surely he would agree that anyone who has admitted or been found guilty of involvement with prostitution should not be covered either,” said Louisiana Democratic Party spokesman Kevin Franck.

“Of course, there’s a slight chance that Senator Coburn’s amendment is simply a partisan ploy aimed at neutering health care reform,” Franck said. “In which case, our only suggestion to Senator Coburn is to stop playing games and get serious.”



Quiz time, folks: who was Mr. Franck alluding to when he made the above statement?

You felt the need to open your mouth and prove what a moron you are ... WHY, exactly?:eusa_eh:
 
the gop shows how desperate and immature they are. any ads they run about this vote will just be ridiculed to death as it should

By who? You and your ilk? Big deal. Y'all try to ridicule anything common sense and logical in favor of your bizarro world think.

Thinks ped's are okay do ya, bright boy? I think they should be turned over to me for a quick trip to the back yard.:evil:
 
Yup, just as predicted:

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/03/24/gonna-backfire/#comments


But hey, here's a good response:

Today, the Louisiana Democratic Party suggested that Senator Tom Coburn expand his proposed amendment to the health care reconciliation bill prohibiting coverage of erectile dysfunction medications to child molesters, rapists and sex offenders to include those who admit or are convicted of prostitution or prostitution-related crimes.

“If Senator Coburn believes that federal law should not allow coverage of erectile dysfunction medications to folks whose impulses have led them to break the law, then surely he would agree that anyone who has admitted or been found guilty of involvement with prostitution should not be covered either,” said Louisiana Democratic Party spokesman Kevin Franck.

“Of course, there’s a slight chance that Senator Coburn’s amendment is simply a partisan ploy aimed at neutering health care reform,” Franck said. “In which case, our only suggestion to Senator Coburn is to stop playing games and get serious.”



Quiz time, folks: who was Mr. Franck alluding to when he made the above statement?

You felt the need to open your mouth and prove what a moron you are ... WHY, exactly?:eusa_eh:

Can you expound on that a little, Gunny?
 
I don't think Viagra should be covered by insurance, period.

But it's funny that Republicans are using this week to suggest stupid laws so they have campaign commercials in the fall.

Republicans - the party that puts their party before America.

Mwahahahahah!!!

Ravi.....you crack me up.
 
I don't think Viagra should be covered by insurance, period.

But it's funny that Republicans are using this week to suggest stupid laws so they have campaign commercials in the fall.

Republicans - the party that puts their party before America.
That would be the Democrats. They will pay for ignoring the will of the people...unless Obama declares a dictatorship and crowns himself Emperor before we get his sorry ass out of office.

It's a sneaky ploy by Cons .. to change the bill in anyway would send it back to congress.
...as was the method used by the Dems to pass the bill through the house.

But now during debate is when you offer amendments Not after a bill is law.

You seem to not get what I'm saying. He can turn this amendment into a bill and offer it up as that. After this is done with.

What the Republicans are doing here is intentionally dishonest.
You have a strange sense of judgment.

He can do that. Or he can make the Dems look ignorant and offer it now. As I said, Pretty smart politics.

And a case example of putting politics over people.

Problem for them is that if they try this, it will backfire in November.
The dems aren't ignorant. They are ignoring. Their STUPIDITY will backfire on them in November...for many Novembers to come.

So why is Viagra covered by health insurance anyway?
Because liberals right laws.

If Coburn feels so strongly about this amendment, he can offer it up. Right now after this bill passes.

That way, the focus can be on that bill and that bill alone. If he still believes in it in that case.

But now during debate is when you offer amendments Not after a bill is law.

As I understand it, if a reconcilliation bill is amended in any way that changes policy, the bill can no longer be approved with 51 votes. Both sides know this. It was the whole point of doing this through reconcilliation. The GOP knows only amendments about budgets and not programs has even a snow ball chance in hell of passing. This is political theater, plain and simple. As has been the behavior of the GOP during this entire administration and unfortunately some of our fellow citizens have bought it hook, line, and sinker.
Political theatrics are personified by Nancy Pelosi...turn out the lights, turn off the mic, lock them out of the backroom...what a hypocritical comment you make.

the gop shows how desperate and immature they are. any ads they run about this vote will just be ridiculed to death as it should
Both sides should be ridiculed. I'm for voting out all incumbents and starting fresh with a complete slate of congressmen that is exclusive of lawyers and lifetime politicians.
 
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so the democrats are going to give viagra to sex offenders? with grandma's stolen funds no doubt..
 
Sen. Tom Coburn has released his list of amendments to the reconciliation bill. Democrats will try to defeat all the amendments, if possible, to avoid another vote in the House.
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nothing like a bit of sleaze and desperation to expose the true bullshit of the right. It's all about power, not nation or citizens, but power.

"Republicans questioned some of the language in the parts of the bill relating to Pell grants, forcing changes to the bill and further House action."

House ready for final healthcare vote on Thursday after Senate acts | D.C. Now | Los Angeles Times

"Among the amendments defeated overnight was the GOP proposal dealing with drugs for prisoners, denounced by Democrats as a politically motivated issue.

By a 57-42 vote, Democrats rejected an amendment by Sen. Tom Coburn, (R-Okla.), barring federal purchases of Viagra and other erectile dysfunction drugs for sex offenders. Coburn said it would save millions of dollars, while Sen. Max Baucus, on the bill’s floor manager called it “a crass political stunt.”
 
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