Left Now Engaged in Criminal Activity to Silence Rush

[Big Fitz]

So crazed is the left to silence those who oppose their agenda and dare mock their sacred cows, they have resorted to committing telecommunication crimes to get the word out and silence a private citizen.

Illegal robocalls accuse Republicans over Rush Limbaugh and 'slut' slur - Mail Online - Toby Harnden's blog

The outrage should be towards this tactic, and prosection on those who have undertaken it.

Criminal activity is not protected free speech.

http://youtu.be/Fgn2GneoWTg

 

[WillowTree]

I will never vote democrat again, I don't give a shit who it is. they are corrupt to their corps..

 

[Sweet Willy]

I don't think this is "criminal". It may violate civil code of some sort but there is no criminal offense here.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

from the article.....

The automated calls are illegal because they do not state who they are from (there is no known group called The Women of the 99 Percent) or provide a callback number, as required under the US Telephone Consumer Protection Act of 1991.

 

[Sweet Willy]

I had forgotten how this thing works about giving credits and taking credits from the little light meter up there.

Willow, I was only pointing out that this is probably not a criminal offense. The violation, according to the article, is the fact these recordings didn't properly identify themselves. At least not to the satisfaction of the person writing the article. This writer claims that because he doesn't know who "The 99% Womens Group" (or who ever these people are) is, that this violates the regulation that robocalls must identify who is sponsoring the call. It's just really thin to begin with and in addition, I don't see where any kind of charges have been made, much less has anyone been been convicted of anything and even if that were the case, it's not something covered by "criminal" code. We don't generally refer to speeders as criminals. Or any number of civil infractions or misdemeanors. Had the author of this topic said "illegal activity" then I wouldn't have raised a peep. But "criminal" is just misleading. No criminal offense here.

 

[Sweet Willy]

from the article.....

The automated calls are illegal because they do not state who they are from (there is no known group called The Women of the 99 Percent) or provide a callback number, as required under the US Telephone Consumer Protection Act of 1991.

And that's a very thin statement to base a judgement of illegal on, much less criminal. The group did identify itself, the author just claims there is no known group by that name. Well.... known to whom?

If the group can be identified by this name, there is nothing even illegal, much less criminal.

 

[Big Fitz]

from the article.....

The automated calls are illegal because they do not state who they are from (there is no known group called The Women of the 99 Percent) or provide a callback number, as required under the US Telephone Consumer Protection Act of 1991.

And that's a very thin statement to base a judgement of illegal on, much less criminal. The group did identify itself, the author just claims there is no known group by that name. Well.... known to whom?

If the group can be identified by this name, there is nothing even illegal, much less criminal.

The letter of the law is the letter of the law. The spirit of the law was long killed off by the left as unimportant.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

They have to be incorporated somewhere. They have to have at least of 503(c) application on file. And the failure to provide the callback number is defined as illegal. It may be a misdemeanor instead of a felony, but it is still illegal.

You note from the article that they block access to the return phone number.

They are definitely in breach of laws on fun raising too, if no one knows of them.

 

[Sweet Willy]

from the article.....

And that's a very thin statement to base a judgement of illegal on, much less criminal. The group did identify itself, the author just claims there is no known group by that name. Well.... known to whom?

If the group can be identified by this name, there is nothing even illegal, much less criminal.

The letter of the law is the letter of the law. The spirit of the law was long killed off by the left as unimportant.

I don't disagree with you. I'm actually holding you to the letter of the law and this isn't criminal. It's not a criminal violation anymore than a parking ticket is a criminal violation. We separate criminal code and civil code for a reason. The letter of the law says this isn't a criminal offense. Your title is misleading. No crime here. No criminals. Perhaps some "violators".

 

[Sweet Willy]

They have to be incorporated somewhere. They have to have at least of 503(c) application on file. And the failure to provide the callback number is defined as illegal. It may be a misdemeanor instead of a felony, but it is still illegal.

You note from the article that they block access to the return phone number.

They are definitely in breach of laws on fun raising too, if no one knows of them.

And I wouldn't dispute any of that, if it turns out to be the case.

But it's still not "criminal". That's just inflamatory hyperbole.

 

[nitroz]

from the article.....

The automated calls are illegal because they do not state who they are from (there is no known group called The Women of the 99 Percent) or provide a callback number, as required under the US Telephone Consumer Protection Act of 1991.

That explains it.

 

[Big Fitz]

Right.

From Section 5:

(B) Criminal fine Any person who willfully and knowingly violates this subsection shall upon conviction thereof be fined not more than $10,000 for each violation, or 3 times that amount for each day of a continuing violation, in lieu of the fine provided by section 501 of this title for such a violation. This subparagraph does not supersede the provisions of section 501 of this title relating to imprisonment or the imposition of a penalty of both fine and imprisonment.

Ergo, criminal activity.

 

[Sweet Willy]

No one has been even formally accused of anything, much less convicted. There is no criminal conduct here that has been even remotely verified. The group may very well have a 501 app pending. We just don't know. Calling this criminal is just inflamatory hyperbole, at the least, premature.

 

[Againsheila]

I will never vote democrat again, I don't give a shit who it is. they are corrupt to their corps..

So are reps.

 

[Si modo]

Ah, the "honesty" of the left is apparent.

 

[HUGGY]

Left Now Engaged in Criminal Activity to Silence Rush

More criminal than sending your maid out with a shoe box full of cash to by street Oxyconton?

More criminal than trying to smuggle hundreds of Viagra pills past customs?

The PigMan is fucking lucky he is STILL not in prison like anybody else would be in Florida with such offenses.

 

[Sweet Willy]

Left Now Engaged in Criminal Activity to Silence Rush

More criminal than sending your maid out with a shoe box full of cash to by street Oxyconton?

More criminal than trying to smuggle hundreds of Viagra pills past customs?

The PigMan is fucking lucky he is STILL not in prison like anybody else would be in Florida with such offenses.

You make good points but I'm not sure all this digging up of bones helps out. Don't get me wrong, I don't care for Rush but I think it's wise to judge incidents on their individual merits. The fact that these calls were about Rush shouldn't have any bearing on their standing as compliant / non compliant with the regs on these things. If they are a violation or even "criminal" as our poster suggest, that should not be based in any way upon the subject matter of the call.

 

[Si modo]

I don't think this is "criminal". It may violate civil code of some sort but there is no criminal offense here.

No.

Any person who willfully and knowingly violates this subsection shall upon conviction thereof be fined not more than $10,000 for each violation, or 3 times that amount for each day of a continuing violation, in lieu of the fine provided by section 501 of this title for such a violation. This subparagraph does not supersede the provisions of section 501 of this title relating to imprisonment or the imposition of a penalty of both fine and imprisonment.​

47 USC § 227 - Restrictions on use of telephone equipment | LII / Legal Information Institute

 

[The T]

So crazed is the left to silence those who oppose their agenda and dare mock their sacred cows, they have resorted to committing telecommunication crimes to get the word out and silence a private citizen.

Illegal robocalls accuse Republicans over Rush Limbaugh and 'slut' slur - Mail Online - Toby Harnden's blog

The outrage should be towards this tactic, and prosection on those who have undertaken it.

Criminal activity is not protected free speech.

Women of the 99% Robocall Attacks Rush Limbaugh March 8, 2012 - YouTube

Rep Cup runneth over...

 

[Peach]

So crazed is the left to silence those who oppose their agenda and dare mock their sacred cows, they have resorted to committing telecommunication crimes to get the word out and silence a private citizen.

Illegal robocalls accuse Republicans over Rush Limbaugh and 'slut' slur - Mail Online - Toby Harnden's blog

The outrage should be towards this tactic, and prosection on those who have undertaken it.

Criminal activity is not protected free speech.

Women of the 99% Robocall Attacks Rush Limbaugh March 8, 2012 - YouTube

Rep Cup runneth over...

MORE will not listen, watch, and read Rush because this; sad tactic.