'Left Behind' = 'Jihadists'?

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    Only to Kristoff and the NYT. Interesting how embattled the left must be feeling. I'm not a 'fundamentalist', but have read most of the 'Left Behind' series, not great literature, but good moral nudge in thinking.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/17/opinion/17KRIS.html

    Note at the end of the excerpt, Kristoff tries to tie the prison scandal to fundamentalist Christians, since to the present that argument has gotten as far as the 'whacked out anti-abortionists,' and the overwhelming condemnation of them from Christians in general.

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    GopJeff, if you want to move this to politics, ok by me, just seemed like it goes here.

    Jihad Watch responds:

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/002556.php

     
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    These people miss the point of Jesus entirely. The Jesus of the four gospels was a pacifistic, peace-loving man (well, God with a human body) who preached "love thy enemy," "turn the other cheek," and other such things, but Revelation clearly depicts his return as that of a general, leading the armies of heaven into battle against Satan. By the time this happens, nearly every human being on Earth who isn't already "saved" will be beyond hope.
     
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    The obvious statement here is that secularists have a very hard time reconciling the love of God with the justice of God. It is an age old problem and sticking point for skeptics: If God is a loving God, as the Bible claims He is, then how can He judge the world and/or send people to hell?
    The Bible speaks many time about God's love (see the book of 1 John for several examples). Also, both the Old and New Testament declare that God does not want anyone to face death, but would rather that all would repent (turn their lives around into the direction God desires) and be saved. So it's not like God is up there waiting to slaughter people just for fun.
    At the same time, God is seen in the Bible to be absolutely good and absolutely holy, without any sin whatsoever. Because God cannot tolerate sin, He must punish it. According to Romans, the wages (the just payment) for sin is death - no matter how big or small the sin. However, God provides the payment for everyone's sin throught the death of Jesus Christ. Because Jesus was sinless, He had no sins of His own to die for; therefore, His death was an acceptable substitution for the death of all humans (the theological term for this is propitiation).
    God's judgement, then, is satisfied for everyone who accepts Christ's payment for their sins. But for those who do not accept God's gift, their judgment remains unsatisfied.
     

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