Lebanon: Looks Like the Massive Demonstration Worked

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    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050315/wl_nm/lebanon_dc


     
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    Is the deal something like that, Hizbollah gets off the terrorist list
    for free and fair elections, no questions asked.

    Let them go down in everyday politics and let democracy sort
    out the terrorist ?
     
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    I'm really unsure what is going to happen with Hezbollah. The Syrian members I think will be sent there. Still leaves a lot of Lebanese. I think it's a terror group and should be treated as such.
     
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    well no doubt they are mainly an Iranian supported terror group.

    But in the world of politics that doesnt mean that part of them
    a Lebanese first and might go for a democratic election.

    This might correct their terrorist roots (at least so I hope)
    and involve them in the political process to set up
    a democratic government where all races are involved.

    This would hopefully avoid the prospect of a civil war
    and in the long term pacify the region.

    Once in power the anti semetic bs wont stand up and in
    order to compete in a democratic process they would have
    to think what is best for Lebanon first and not be the instrument
    of the Iranian and Syrians.

    I think we have not much too loose by encouraging the process.

    In the worst case another civil war brakes out and we support
    the Sunni, Christian opposition.

    In the best case their terrorist motiviations are replaced by the
    the democratic process of having to get Lebanon out of the ashes.

    A lot of blood was shed there so thats why I think there is
    a window of opportunity.

    Bush has to make clear that anti democratic forces will face
    the wrath of the Us and for now we ll stay neutral but
    if they go for a powerplay we will support the opposition
    with money and hardware.
     
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    Last paragraph, 'we're' being the US, not Germany, right?
     
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    Germany has no influence or power to call the shots.

    I know that much.

    But Bush with his policies has an opening now, but it is not
    easy, as the last 100 years of arab policy shows.

    I am not sure what way to go to be truthful.

    What would you suggest?
     
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    Personally, I think Bush should stick with Hezbollah is a terror organization, but can 'turn it around.' We'll see about that. As far as Syria goes, think it will implode is they lose Lebanon. Whether Lebanon will spiral into civil war? Hmm, have they learned anything? Hmmm???
     
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    Well with Lebanon possibly going democratic (in a loose sense)
    Syria will face intense internal pressure.

    This is a real good opening. And Bush should sent in the hated French
    to facilitate the deal. The west should try its best.

    If Syria cracks it would be a paradigm change that will go through
    the Arab world.

    Not that they stop hating us but semi-democratic governments will
    be staying away from open or covert confrontation with the west.

    The non terror group think might be a good carrot, a payoff if
    Hezbollah plays after democratic rules. I am not sure if they are
    interested, but after decades of war their followers sure are.
     
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    Syria will fall because their wealth has come from the puppet state. Syria will not be able to employ those returning, especially the army. Assad doesn't have that great a grip already, he's been propped up by those that were loyal to his daddy.

    Assad chose wrong when he back Saddam, he is going to go down like the other.
     
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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/syria/story/0,13031,1438684,00.html

     

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