Leaving America

[AquaAthena]

As a libertarian-leaning Republican, I found this short article by John Stossel very interesting. There are 140 comments after it, and many of them mentioned other countries they have lived in, or are living in, or thinking of moving to. These are very revealing as to the advantages and disadvantages of living with dual citizenship. Recently on USMB a thread was started relative to what countries would be the best to relocate. There weren't many posts, so I thought this might add to the curiosities of those who would still like to know. I'll be staying here but as a Stepford citizen with a flattened spirit.

Snip:

From economist Mark Skousen, the organizer of Freedom Fest.

"Current government policies encourage American to be takers. Where will that lead? When Peter realizes he can vote himself free stuff and bill Paul, and when there are increasing numbers of Peters and fewer Pauls, that’s a very bad trend."

Snip:

According to the US State Department, over 6.6 million Americans are living abroad. That’s equal to the State of Massachusetts, and a 73% increase over the 1999 figure of 3.8 million. Over 687,000 live in Canada…..222,000 in England…..211,000 in Germany….and over 1,000,000 in Mexico.

Mexico is the new paradise?

If the United States really is on the Road to Serfdom, where will you move?

Leaving America John Stossel

 

[uscitizen]

So Mexico has an American immigration problem too?

 

[California Girl]

If ever there were true words written it is this part:

"When Peter realizes he can vote himself free stuff and bill Paul, and when there are increasing numbers of Peters and fewer Pauls, that’s a very bad trend."


As Margaret Thatcher said "The problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other peoples' money."

We cannot keep spending..... despite all the huggy feely 'let's take care of everyone' desires, it just can't work.

I live in the UK. I see what 'socialism lite' does.... it saps any desire or ambition to succeed, either as a country or as individuals. Sad really, but I see the US headed down the same road - with 'liberals' pointing at Europe as a shining example' of the way to be. You have no idea what you're leading us into. I do. But y'all are too keen to take the easy road rather than face the truth.... It doesn't work.

 

[uscitizen]

Unfettered capitalism does not work in the long run either.
Have we tried anything yet that will work over the long haul?

 

[AquaAthena]

So Mexico has an American immigration problem too?

In one of the 140 comments to the article, a person addresses that and it is quite interesting.. I think Mexico welcomes the pesos of a peaceful American population.

 

[uscitizen]

So Mexico has an American immigration problem too?

In one of the 140 comments to the article, a person addresses that and it is quite interesting.. I think Mexico welcomes the pesos of a peaceful American population.

Actually quite true a noticable portion or Mexico's GDP is from money sent home by illegals working in the USA and from US retirement communities located in Mexico.

 

[Douger]

As a libertarian-leaning Republican, I found this short article by John Stossel very interesting. There are 140 comments after it, and many of them mentioned other countries they have lived in, or are living in, or thinking of moving to. These are very revealing as to the advantages and disadvantages of living with dual citizenship. Recently on USMB a thread was started relative to what countries would be the best to relocate. There weren't many posts, so I thought this might add to the curiosities of those who would still like to know. I'll be staying here but as a Stepford citizen with a flattened spirit.

Snip:

From economist Mark Skousen, the organizer of Freedom Fest.

"Current government policies encourage American to be takers. Where will that lead? When Peter realizes he can vote himself free stuff and bill Paul, and when there are increasing numbers of Peters and fewer Pauls, that’s a very bad trend."

Snip:

According to the US State Department, over 6.6 million Americans are living abroad. That’s equal to the State of Massachusetts, and a 73% increase over the 1999 figure of 3.8 million. Over 687,000 live in Canada…..222,000 in England…..211,000 in Germany….and over 1,000,000 in Mexico.

Mexico is the new paradise?

If the United States really is on the Road to Serfdom, where will you move?

Leaving America John Stossel

I already did.
I figured if you're going to live in the "third world' it may as well be tropical !
Yeah. Dat wunna my cribz.

 

[zzzz]

I would venture to say that many of the Americans living in Mexico are either naturalized Americans or Mexican heritage that returned to Mexico. Many of the Ameericans living abroad went abroad with the jobs that left the US. The companies needed their expertise and exported the workers with the jobs!

 

[AquaAthena]

Unfettered capitalism does not work in the long run either.
Have we tried anything yet that will work over the long haul?

It would work if the unions weren't in control of management's decisions. And if any president would take another look at keeping taxes low and spending limited.

 

[uscitizen]

Unfettered capitalism does not work in the long run either.
Have we tried anything yet that will work over the long haul?

It would work if the unions weren't in control of management's decisions. And if any president would take another look at keeping taxes low and spending limited.

Unions are only a minor player now and mostly concentrated in certain areas of the country.

Yeah if any president... Or any congress....

 

[Madeline]

I'd go to Canada if it weren't so freakin' cold. Socialized medicine, low crime, and all the men are as suave as Toro...what's not to like?

O, ya...that crappy beer......but wait, I dun drink beer......

 

[uscitizen]

Canada has good beer.

Or at least it did back when I drank beer.

 

[Madeline]

Unfettered capitalism does not work in the long run either.
Have we tried anything yet that will work over the long haul?

It would work if the unions weren't in control of management's decisions. And if any president would take another look at keeping taxes low and spending limited.

It would help if governors and state reps weren't carrying on like pigs at the federal trough.

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[Douger]

Canada has GREAT weed.
One problem. It's run by Nazi's too.

 

[AquaAthena]

Canada has GREAT weed.
One problem. It's run by Nazi's too.

It also has some very great people. In my tourist related job I meet many of them, and I tell them they remind me of the way Americans used to be. Polite, and well-mannered. Civilized too. I have been to Canada and experienced them much to my pleasure.

 

[Douger]

Canada has GREAT weed.
One problem. It's run by Nazi's too.

It also has some very great people. In my tourist related job I meet many of them, and I tell them they remind me of the way Americans used to be. Polite, and well-mannered. Civilized too. I have been to Canada and experienced them much to my pleasure.

FANTASTIC people.
Who continually vote against their own best interests.

 

[AquaAthena]

Canada has GREAT weed.
One problem. It's run by Nazi's too.

It also has some very great people. In my tourist related job I meet many of them, and I tell them they remind me of the way Americans used to be. Polite, and well-mannered. Civilized too. I have been to Canada and experienced them much to my pleasure.

FANTASTIC people.
Who continually vote against their own best interests.

Yes, they are a happy people until they get a serious stage of cancer and come to America for treatment. [well in the past as it seems] Soon we will all be in the same boat. Sinking.

 

[Toro]

There aren't many places where Americans can go without becoming less free.

Don't like socialized medicine? Don't like higher taxes? Don't like more regulation? Well, that pretty much rules out every single developed nation in the world. You'll be living in a second or third world country. Maybe you can go to Singapore, which is authortarian in other ways. There aren't many places Americans can go to be more free without living in a much poorer society.

Of course, as an American citizen, you are taxed on your worldwide income. So even if you go to a lower taxed country, you still will pay American taxes if your rates abroad are lower. You could give up your American citizenship though.

 

[Madeline]

The thing that struck me most about Canada was always...no litter. Yes, they are polite and all, but seriously, no litter and flowerbeds everywhere. I'd leave Detroit and enter Windsor back in the 1970's and think I had landed in Oz.

I dun know what they have going for them that we don't, but I wish we could import it.

 

[HUGGY]

If ever there were true words written it is this part:

"When Peter realizes he can vote himself free stuff and bill Paul, and when there are increasing numbers of Peters and fewer Pauls, that’s a very bad trend."


As Margaret Thatcher said "The problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other peoples' money."

We cannot keep spending..... despite all the huggy feely 'let's take care of everyone' desires, it just can't work.

I live in the UK. I see what 'socialism lite' does.... it saps any desire or ambition to succeed, either as a country or as individuals. Sad really, but I see the US headed down the same road - with 'liberals' pointing at Europe as a shining example' of the way to be. You have no idea what you're leading us into. I do. But y'all are too keen to take the easy road rather than face the truth.... It doesn't work.

Watch yo mouth BIATCH!!!!!!!