LeakGate Resolution:Bush's genius.

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    They should have thought about this before. It's not a leak, it's a strategic declassification of information. :rotflmao: The dems are steaming mad!
     
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    While you might accept the concept of an all-powerful, unitary and unchecked executive, and might agree with Bush's views (although this would put you in a minority of about 1/3 of the country), the words "Bush" and "genius" do not belong in the same sentence, except in the negative. :D

    Oh...and FYI, the president has the right to establish procedures whereby information is deemed classified and even change those procedures from time to time, he does not have the right to follow "No Procedures" in declassifying information to achieve a tactical political goal, thereby reducing classified information to nothing more than propaganda.
     
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    You are of course entitled to your opinion on whether the current President is a genius or not, but your assertions hold no more weight than anyone elses. Thus your admonission to RWA is merely 'fluff'. It does tell us where you stand though, so thanks for that. We needed anothe Bush hater on this board.

    Just so ya know, the President does indeed have the right to declassify anything he wants to and the procedure is (as is true for most things classified in nature) is for final authority to declare it unclassified. Since the president is the Commander in Chief, he is the final authority on intelligence concerning the war on terror which includes operations in Iraq.
     
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    Wow. That's a lot of big words. He can change the procedure to "no procedure" and back again, with internal memos to himself.

    You need to let this go. Plame wasn't undercover and was never put in jeopardy. Wilson was on a fishing trip to get information to discredit the president without the authority of anyone but his honey bunny. And you know what, despite forged documents, which the forgers wanted to sell, the country in question WAS seeking yellow cake. It is logically possible for there to forged documents regarding an event AND that event also be true. Just ask Dan Rather.
     
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    The President can classify/declassify at will:

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c105:H.R.1546:
     
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    "unitary executive" :rotflmao: The moment I hear this phrase, I know someone is a buttnut.
     
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    LOL! Shocking from someone who thinks Bush is a genius. :p:

    So...what would you call unchecked executive power?
     
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    No doubt that unchecked executive poweer would be a bad thing...I guess those that wrote the Constitution were smarter than most give them credit for. If you are implying that Bush has 'unchecked executive poweer' you are just plain wrong.
     
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    Yes...after following established procedures...just as I said. From your link:

    d) STANDARDS FOR DECLASSIFICATION-

    (1) INITIAL CLASSIFICATION PERIOD- Information may not remain classified under this Act for longer than a 10-year period unless the head of the agency that created the information certifies to the President at the end of such period that the information requires continued protection, based on a current assessment of the risks of disclosing the information, carried out in accordance with subsection (c)(1).

    (2) ADDITIONAL CLASSIFICATION PERIOD- Information not declassified prior to or at the end of the 10-year period referred to in paragraph (1) may not remain classified for more than a 30-year period unless the head of the agency that created the information certifies to the President at the end of such 30-year period that continued protection of the information from unauthorized disclosure is essential to the national security of the United States or that demonstrable harm to an individual will result from release of the information.

    (3) DECLASSIFICATION SCHEDULES- All classified information shall be subject to regular review pursuant to schedules each agency head shall establish and publish in the Federal Register. Each agency shall follow the schedule established by the agency head in declassifying information created by that agency.
     
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    That's it jillian, make the campaign about petty verbiage, excellent! Keep up the good work.
     

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