Leaked Cable: McCain Promised Qaddafi To Help Secure Military Equipment From U.S.

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    By Ali Gharib on Aug 24, 2011 at 11:30 am

    For all the braying by the Senate’s top three hawks about how the U.S. wasn’t doing enough to oust Libyan dictator Col. Muammar Qaddafi from power, one might be surprised to learn that exactly two years ago, Sens. John McCain (R-AZ), Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) were in Tripoli meeting with the erratic leader and giving him assurances that relations between the nations were on the mend.

    More: Leaked Cable: McCain Promised Qaddafi To Help Secure Military Equipment From U.S. | ThinkProgress
     
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    I really don't understand how those three dumbfucks have managed to stay in office so long.
     
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    How about this..?

    If we look over the arms sales to Libya in recent years, recorded in the prestigious Swedish centre SIPRI, we can see that France sold 100 MILAN model anti-tank missiles to Gaddafi in 2009 for 168 million Euros, and that Italy also sold 10 A-109K helicopters for border patrols (6 of which have been delivered) for 80 million Euros. Perhaps some of the 96 Kh-35 Uran missiles sold by Russia are being used – they can be shot from helicopters.

    On the other hand, based on EU reports on arms exports, in 2008 European countries as a whole sold arms to Libya worth 215 million Euros, and in 2009 the amount totalled 344 million Euros. In particular, there are the category 1 arms, which are rifles, revolvers and pistols and machine guns, and category 10, which include fighter planes. Therefore, the arms sold by the EU in recent years could be the arms being used in order to violently repress the peaceful protests in recent days. The European state which is the closest trading partner is, as is to be expected, Italy, which reached sales of 205 million dollars in the years 2008-2009, the majority of which were sales of fighter planes, many of them helicopters. Another clue which could help us try and understand the rising/ increasing arms trade between the two countries, is that the Italian arms company Finmeccanica, 32.5% of which is supported/ owned?? by the Italian Ministry of Economy, and which has the LIA (Libyan Invstment Authority, as a shareholder in the company. The Libyan governmental authority, holds 2.01% of shares in this company, and it wanted to increase this quota to 3% so as to be able to hold a seat on the company’s board of directors. With this in mind, it is perhaps easier to understand the declarations made by the Italian president and his foreign ministers, who are blocking the most forceful EU resolutions on the violence carried out against the Libyan civilian population. One must also highlight Malta, which sold Gaddafi around 80 million Euros worth of small arms and munitions, probably from Italian arms companies based in their territory. It is also worth mentioning the sales of arms made to Libya by France (143 million Euros), Germany (57 million), United Kingdom (53 million) and Portugal (21 million). Spain, despite being one of the largest arms exporters in the world, does not count Lybia as one of its main clients, although one must mention the fact that in 2008 and 2009, trade in military material made between Spain and Libya reached approximately 4 million Euros, even though they were sales which were authorised but which have not been delivered.


    Who is selling Gadaffi weapons? | War Resisters' International
     
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    Khaddaffi was our ally, Of course we wanted to sell weapons to him. JUST like we sold weapons to Egypt. In fact Egypt got free money from us for weapons, Anyone squawking about that?
     
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    I wonder if my crystal ball works as good as the spundit (spin doctor) author's does. I'll look to the future and see if supporting the "revolutionaries" all over North Africa and the Middle East will eventually be to our benefit or not......... :eusa_whistle:
     
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    Hmm and Obama is letting drug cartels in Mexico buy our guns that killed an ICE guy and also slaughtered how many of innocent mexicans??
     
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    Why is this a surprise. The entire world decided years ago to let bygones be bygones and make nice with Qadaffi as long as he kept the oil flowing.

    Even the Community Organizer shook hands with him, although he resisted the overwealming temptation to bow, so I guess that's something.

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    "must stand up straight...must stand up straight..."

    So I guess that Obama can take credit for the hard work of the rest of NATO and the rebels, and hopefully this all won't turn to shit before the election when we figure out that we've put people more dangerous than Qadaffi in charge, or maybe his homies in the MSM won't report the slaughter.

    Obama's biggest problem is that his own followers are starting to turn on him, though.
     
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    IN the 80s Ghadaffi was the POSTER BOY for terrorism.

    Then he was rehabilitated when we invaded IRaq and made Saddam the terrorist poster boy.

    But as Momar decided to challenge the USD petrodollar?

    He has again became the devil incarnate.

    America does not have permanent allies, it has temporary interests.
     
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    Well, there was more to it than that.

    Qadaffi had been trying to work his way back into the good graces of the west for years. He even gave up his WMD program when he realized having one was like walking with a starter's pistol into a donut shop frequented by cops.

    So he made a lot of concessions to get in good with the west, including paying out 10 billion dollars to lockerbee heirs. He needed western know-how to update his oil industry.

    But the Community Organizer thought he could score a quick win by supporting these rebels when they rose up..
     

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