Leading global warming sceptic sets out to prove hoax, for 2 years,changes sides.WSJ!

[francoHFW]

Sceptic warms to climate change
A PROMINENT sceptic of global warming spent two years trying to ... Prof Muller wrote recently in The Wall Street Journal's ... See the other side of ...
www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/world/sceptic-warms...change

Where the Hell are our chickenshytte corporate media? The GOP is the only party ANYWHERE that fights this. Dittoheads.

 

[Full-Auto]

Sceptic warms to climate change
A PROMINENT sceptic of global warming spent two years trying to ... Prof Muller wrote recently in The Wall Street Journal's ... See the other side of ...
www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/world/sceptic-warms...change

Where the Hell are our chickenshytte corporate media? The GOP is the only party ANYWHERE that fights this. Dittoheads.

Post that one experiment that proves it all.



I dont know if timex could hold out that long....

 

[bripat9643]

Sceptic warms to climate change
A PROMINENT sceptic of global warming spent two years trying to ... Prof Muller wrote recently in The Wall Street Journal's ... See the other side of ...
www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/world/sceptic-warms...change

Where the Hell are our chickenshytte corporate media? The GOP is the only party ANYWHERE that fights this. Dittoheads.

Your link doesn't resolve to anything.

 

[francoHFW]

Skeptic finds he now agrees global warming is real
... A prominent physicist and skeptic of global warming spent two years trying to find ... in The Wall Street Journal's ... to mankind climate change ...
news.yahoo.com/skeptic-finds-now-agrees-global-warming...

I'm still trying to figure out how the WSJ printed his editorial, AND how no major corporate media reported on in it...There is a corporate conspiracy....

 

[Avatar4321]

That's not possible. According to the global warming supporters there are no scientists that are skeptic, hence your story can't possibly be true unless of course, the GW supporters are lying...

 

[francoHFW]

You are a brainwashed functional idiot...lol...of course there are bought off scientists...

From Yahoo (NZ!?!!!) above:


A prominent US physicist and sceptic of global warming spent two years trying to find out if mainstream climate scientists were wrong.

In the end, he determined they were right: Temperatures really are rising rapidly.

The study of the world's surface temperatures by Richard Muller was partially bankrolled by a foundation connected to global warming deniers.

He pursued long-held sceptic theories in analysing the data. He was spurred to actionbecause of "Climategate", a British scandal involving hacked emails of scientists.

Yet he found that the land is 1C warmer than in the 1950s. Those numbers from Muller, who works at the University of California, Berkeley, and Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, match those by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA.

He said he went even further back, studying readings from Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson. His ultimate finding of a warming world, to be presented at a conference on Monday, is no different from what mainstream climate scientists have been saying for decades.

What's different, and why everyone from opinion columnists to the satirical The Daily Show is paying attention is who is behind the study.

A quarter of the $US600,000 ($A560,000) to do the research came from the Charles Koch Foundation, whose founder is a major funder of sceptic groups and the conservative tea party movement.

The Koch brothers, Charles and David, run a large privately held company involved in oil and other industries, producing sizable greenhouse gas emissions.

Muller's research team carefully examined two chief criticisms by sceptics. One is that weather stations are unreliable; the other is that cities, which create heat islands, were skewing the temperature analysis.

"The sceptics raised valid points and everybody should have been a sceptic two years ago," Muller said in a telephone interview.

"And now we have confidence that the temperature rise that had previously been reported had been done without bias."

Muller said that he came into the study "with a proper scepticism", something scientists "should always have. I was somewhat bothered by the fact that there was not enough scepticism" before.

There is no reason now to be a sceptic about steadily increasing temperatures, Muller wrote recently in The Wall Street Journal's editorial pages, a place friendly to climate change sceptics.

Muller did not address in his research the cause of global warming. The overwhelming majority of climate scientists say it's man-made from the burning of fossil fuels such as coal and oil. Nor did his study look at ocean warming, future warming and how much of a threat to mankind climate change might be.

Still, Muller said it makes sense to reduce the carbon dioxide created by fossil fuels.

"Greenhouse gases could have a disastrous impact on the world," he said.

Still, he contends that threat is not as proven as the Nobel Prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says it is.

On Monday, Muller is taking his results - four separate papers that are not yet published or peer-reviewed, but will be, he says - to a conference in Santa Fe, New Mexico, expected to include many prominent sceptics as well as mainstream scientists.

"Of course he'll be welcome," said Petr Chylek of Los Alamos National Lab, a noted sceptic and the conference organiser.

"The purpose of our conference is to bring people with different views on climate together, so they can talk and clarify things."

Muller's study found that sceptics' concerns about poor weather station quality didn't skew the results of his analysis because temperature increases rose similarly in reliable and unreliable weather stations.

He also found that while there is an urban heat island effect making cities warmer, rural areas, which are more abundant, are warming, too.

Among many climate scientists, the reaction was somewhat of a yawn.

"After lots of work he found exactly what was already known and accepted in the climate community," said Jerry North, a Texas A&M University atmospheric sciences professor who headed a National Academy of Sciences climate science review in 2006.

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[Mr. Shaman]

That's not possible. According to the global warming supporters there are no scientists that are skeptic, hence your story can't possibly be true unless of course, the GW supporters are lying...

Stand-down, Jesus-freak.

YOU'VE BEEN PUNKED!!!​

8/3/2012

Interview With Koch-Backed
Dr. Richard Muller;
EX-Global-Warming Denier​

​

 

[buckeye45_73]

Weather Channel Founder: Global Warming

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/j...al-warming-says-high-priest-of-gaia-religion/


http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4503674/greenpeace-founder-questions-global-warming/
It happens, we've seen alot of global warming guys admit it's a scam....but hey you can give up all your freedom and live in a dirt hut, eating berries and grass, I'm not going to

 

[skookerasbil]

Sceptic warms to climate change
A PROMINENT sceptic of global warming spent two years trying to ... Prof Muller wrote recently in The Wall Street Journal's ... See the other side of ...
http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/world/sceptic-warms...change

Where the Hell are our chickenshytte corporate media? The GOP is the only party ANYWHERE that fights this. Dittoheads.

As usual........what an idiot.

Once again s0n, I'm forced to break you some bad news: Nobody cares.

The k00ks are great for pointing out the problems of humanity but cant come up with dick for solutions. So.......what.........who's going to go to the floor of congress with a bill that proposes passing a law to go back to wooden ships and candlelight?

Fucking jackasses............the k00ks never want to lend an iota of credence into what solutions would cost.........as if it were an afterthought. Thts why we say they are mental cases. Fortunately for the rest of us, nobody goives a rats ass about global warming anymore. On a list of concerns for the American voter, two years ago, it came in DEAD LAST. This past year ( Feb 2012).........GLOBAL WARMING.......... it doesnt even make the list!!!.......and how fucking funny is that?

Anyway.........whats all the OCD with Lakota, Franco, Shaman et. al. who consistently post up threads on topics of drivel????? Im not really sure but it sure puts the old pumpkin on the tee for people like me!!!!!


BATTER UP!!!!!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Sceptic warms to climate change
A PROMINENT sceptic of global warming spent two years trying to ... Prof Muller wrote recently in The Wall Street Journal's ... See the other side of ...
www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/world/sceptic-warms...change

Where the Hell are our chickenshytte corporate media? The GOP is the only party ANYWHERE that fights this. Dittoheads.

Post that one experiment that proves it all.

Here you go.

(I know how Teabaggers have problems with bigger printed-words.)


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqPuKxXUCPY]Climate Skeptic Richard Muller Admits Global Warming is Real and Humans are the Cause - YouTube[/ame]​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

August 18, 2012

CO2 Emissions; 20-Year Low​

"In a surprising turnaround, the amount of carbon dioxide being released into the atmosphere in the U.S. has fallen dramatically to its lowest level in 20 years, and government officials say the biggest reason is that cheap and plentiful natural gas has led many power plant operators to switch from dirtier-burning coal."

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[Old Rocks]

Sceptic warms to climate change
A PROMINENT sceptic of global warming spent two years trying to ... Prof Muller wrote recently in The Wall Street Journal's ... See the other side of ...
www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/world/sceptic-warms...change

Where the Hell are our chickenshytte corporate media? The GOP is the only party ANYWHERE that fights this. Dittoheads.

Post that one experiment that proves it all.



I dont know if timex could hold out that long....

Dumb fuck, many experiments outlined here in the site from the American Institute of Physics, the single biggest scientific society in the world.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

 

[LoneLaugher]

Bill Maher had an interesting guest on last night. Peter Byck.

Produced a film called "Carbon Nation"

Says we can do a lot to alleviate problem by properly grazing cattle.

 

[Old Rocks]

At issue was not whether or not CO2 was a greenhouse gas, and is warming the atmosphere, that was established by Tyndall in 1858. At issue was the accuracy of the ground weather stations and their positioning. And that involved the rate of temperature rise, and where it was rising the most and the least.

Those that try to deny that there are major changes happening stated that the stations were giving and inaccurate accessment because of their siting. Muller thought that they might have a point, so did the most comprehensive study yet. And found that the scientists that have taken the data, and interpreted the data, were not only doing it well, but that their corrections for siting gave a slightly cooler reading for those places in heat islands than did the satellites.

At present, there are no Scientific Societies that deny the existance of AGW. And virtually all of them claim that AGW is a clear and present danger. Same for all of the National Academies of Science for the nations worldwide. And the same for all the major Universities worldwide. Now that is as strong of a scientific consensus as one can get. Just as strong as the consensus on evolution.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Richard Muller was never a skeptic.

"If Al Gore reaches more people and convinces the world that global warming is real, even if he does it through exaggeration and distortion - which he does, but he’s very effective at it - then let him fly any plane he wants."
- Richard Muller, 2008

"Let me be clear. My own reading of the literature and study of paleoclimate suggests strongly that carbon dioxide from burning of fossil fuels will prove to be the greatest pollutant of human history. It is likely to have severe and detrimental effects on global climate." - Richard Muller, 2003

 

[TakeAStepBack]

At issue was not whether or not CO2 was a greenhouse gas, and is warming the atmosphere, that was established by Tyndall in 1858. At issue was the accuracy of the ground weather stations and their positioning. And that involved the rate of temperature rise, and where it was rising the most and the least.

Those that try to deny that there are major changes happening stated that the stations were giving and inaccurate accessment because of their siting. Muller thought that they might have a point, so did the most comprehensive study yet. And found that the scientists that have taken the data, and interpreted the data, were not only doing it well, but that their corrections for siting gave a slightly cooler reading for those places in heat islands than did the satellites.

At present, there are no Scientific Societies that deny the existance of AGW. And virtually all of them claim that AGW is a clear and present danger. Same for all of the National Academies of Science for the nations worldwide. And the same for all the major Universities worldwide. Now that is as strong of a scientific consensus as one can get. Just as strong as the consensus on evolution.

Strong consensus is great and all. But it means diddly shit until the scientific method can be applied to the theory and return conclusive results in a field experiment.

 

[Old Rocks]

Since the field experiment is already in progress, and we are presently seeing results, I fine your denial interesting. We have increased the amount of CO2 in the air by 40%, and the amount of CH4 by 150%. We are seeing the melting of the alpine glaciers around the world, and the reduction of the Arctic Ice Cap to the point where it's disapperance in the first half of this century is assured. Weather patterns are changing, and the agricultural losses around the world are demonstrating the consequences of those changes.

We even have our best meteorologists explaining how the system works to create the changes and losses. From real time observations, not models.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtRvcXUIyZg]Weather and Climate Summit - Day 5, Jennifer Francis - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Old Rocks]

Interesting. Bring real data and real scientists into the discussion, and the discussion dies. You see, the politicization of this subject by the far right has created a position on their part that most are now seeing as a total lack of recognition of reality.

The scientists predicted that the warming would increase the number of extreme weather events, and those events would negatively impact agriculter around the world. And we have seen that is spades around the world. Now the 'Conservatives' have to explain to the farmers in the mid-west why what they are experiancing is really real. Swiss Re and Munich Re both state that we are seeing 3 to 5 times the extreme weather events that we saw thirty years ago.

Time for the scientists to hit back at the people that have been denigrating them for a couple of decades now.

 

[daveman]

Sceptic warms to climate change
A PROMINENT sceptic of global warming spent two years trying to ... Prof Muller wrote recently in The Wall Street Journal's ... See the other side of ...
www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/world/sceptic-warms...change

Where the Hell are our chickenshytte corporate media? The GOP is the only party ANYWHERE that fights this. Dittoheads.

Muller was never a skeptic. NEVER.