Lawyer Jailed For Not Reciting Pledge Of Allegiance

[JBeukema]

 

[Montrovant]

I've always been curious how much power judges have to hold people in contempt and have them jailed, as well as how many of the rules in a courtroom are actually rules and how many are traditions. Are judges like kings in their courtrooms, and should they be?

Taken at face value, the events in the OP sound ridiculous. A judge taking his power over the conduct of those in his courtroom too far.

 

[California Girl]

I don't trust anyone who doesn't pledge allegiance to the flag. It's unAmerican, in my opinion.

 

[JBeukema]

I don't trust anyone who doesn't pledge allegiance to the flag. It's unAmerican, in my opinion.

Odd, Beck told me not to trust anyone who recites pledges and oaths written by socialists

 

[George Costanza]

I've always been curious how much power judges have to hold people in contempt and have them jailed, as well as how many of the rules in a courtroom are actually rules and how many are traditions. Are judges like kings in their courtrooms, and should they be?

Taken at face value, the events in the OP sound ridiculous. A judge taking his power over the conduct of those in his courtroom too far.

In California, and I would assume other states as well, no judge can jail an attorney summarily for alleged contempt of court. Oh, he/she can try, and the attorney will be escorted from the courtroom to the lockup, but the attorney will not stay there for any significant amount of time. There is a legal procedure that can be invoked to get the attorney released pending further contempt proceedings. This is designed to protect attorneys from precisely what appears to have happened here - some despotic judge taking a little ego trip.

 

[Douger]

LOL.
" I pledje thissy here alleejinses to the murkin flag ( made in Vietnam and sold exclusively by Walmart).
What a fucking idiotic concept.

 

[California Girl]

I don't trust anyone who doesn't pledge allegiance to the flag. It's unAmerican, in my opinion.

Odd, Beck told me not to trust anyone who recites pledges and oaths written by socialists

So, do what I do, don't listen to pundits.

 

[William Joyce]

Nobody cares if the lawyers are jailed. Most people probably think that's a good start!

 

[LogicMoose]

I don't trust anyone who doesn't pledge allegiance to the flag. It's unAmerican, in my opinion.

Nobody should. And people are supposed to trust him with their legal safety...

I wish they would consider it treason.

 

[manifold]

The judge is clearly a douche.

 

[BolshevikHunter]

Nobody cares if the lawyers are jailed. Most people probably think that's a good start!

My thoughts as well. ~BH

 

[Immanuel]

Though I disagree with what the attorney did, I commend his willingness to stand up for his right not to recite the pledge. It actually seems unAmerican to me to require someone to recite the pledge.

I do not believe that all judges necessarily deserve the honor of having everyone stand as they enter the court and often thought that it would serve some of them right if someone had the nerve not to stand when they entered the courtroom.

Charging this attorney simply does not seem right to me even though I have no problem reciting the pledge myself. In fact, if the government here in America thinks it has the right to insist on making us say those particular words, then I would have to begin to wonder if I still lived in America.

Immie

 

[Dr Grump]

Jingoism - something American 'patriots' have a mortgage on...

 

[BolshevikHunter]

Jingoism - something American 'patriots' have a mortgage on...

How does aggressive foreign policy in the form of extreme patriotism have anything to do with a domestic issue like this that involves a Judge throwing an attorney into Jail Grumpy? You might want to understand the definition of jingoism the next time you attempt to look like you know what the fuck you're talking about. Just some friendly advice. lookin out for yuh buddy! ~BH

 

[Dr Grump]

Jingoism - something American 'patriots' have a mortgage on...

How does aggressive foreign policy in the form of extreme patriotism have anything to do with a domestic issue like this that involves a Judge throwing an attorney into Jail Grumpy? You might want to understand the definition of jingoism the next time you attempt to look like you know what the fuck you're talking about. Just some friendly advice. lookin out for yuh buddy! ~BH

And where do you think this retard of judge's attitude comes from? His head space? The same place....

 

[BolshevikHunter]

Jingoism - something American 'patriots' have a mortgage on...

How does aggressive foreign policy in the form of extreme patriotism have anything to do with a domestic issue like this that involves a Judge throwing an attorney into Jail Grumpy? You might want to understand the definition of jingoism the next time you attempt to look like you know what the fuck you're talking about. Just some friendly advice. lookin out for yuh buddy! ~BH

And where do you think this retard of judge's attitude comes from? His head space? The same place....

As much as I hate SOME lawyers, I would tend to agree with you that he might be a power hungry "retard". However, I couldn't pass up the chance to point out that you realistically were talking out of your poop tube by using a label that most people have no idea whatsoever what it means. Again, belligerent foreign policy is just too far away from some small domestic issue like this. That's all I am saying buddy. ~BH

 

[George Costanza]

Nobody cares if the lawyers are jailed. Most people probably think that's a good start!

Is there any group of people you do not hate?

 

[BolshevikHunter]

Nobody cares if the lawyers are jailed. Most people probably think that's a good start!

Is there any group of people you do not hate?

William? I hear he loves the entire seinfeld cast, Just as well the Pretty Womens. Just saying bro. ~BH

 

[FA_Q2]

In fact, if the government here in America thinks it has the right to insist on making us say those particular words, then I would have to begin to wonder if I still lived in America.

Immie

EXACTLY. I have no issue with the pledge but that does not mean that someone, in ANY situation whatsoever, should ever be required to state anything let alone the pledge. I find it extremely distasteful that this judge finds that he has the right to require that and even fells he can punish someone for not doing so.

I don't trust anyone who doesn't pledge allegiance to the flag. It's unAmerican, in my opinion.

That was never the point though. Do you feel that it was right to require it of him and punish him for not complying.


In a another issue - how would you feel if he was your defense attorney. That would leave me unsettled of my attorney got in such an argument with the judge right before my trial.

 

[Dr Grump]

I'm still awaiting for all the neocon whackjobs to bitterly complain about why this judge hasn't been shot.

Where is The T and BigReb?