Lawsuit: Florida Clinic Botched Abortion, Threw Out Live Baby

Discussion in 'Law and Justice System' started by WillowTree, Feb 5, 2009.

  1. WillowTree
    Offline

    WillowTree Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    62,064
    Likes Received:
    9,117
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +9,117 / 0 / -0
    Eighteen and pregnant, Sycloria Williams went to an abortion clinic outside Miami and paid $1,200 for Dr. Pierre Jean-Jacque Renelique to terminate her 23-week pregnancy.

    Three days later, she sat in a reclining chair, medicated to dilate her cervix and otherwise get her ready for the procedure.

    Only Renelique didn't arrive in time. According to Williams and the Florida Department of Health, she went into labor and delivered a live baby girl.

    What Williams and the Health Department say happened next has shocked people on both sides of the abortion debate: One of the clinic's owners, who has no medical license, cut the infant's umbilical cord. Williams says the woman placed the baby in a plastic biohazard bag and threw it out.

    FOXNews.com - Lawsuit: Florida Clinic Botched Abortion, Threw Out Live Baby - Health News | Current Health News | Medical News
  2. WillowTree
    Offline

    WillowTree Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    62,064
    Likes Received:
    9,117
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +9,117 / 0 / -0
    Good God!
  3. busara
    Offline

    busara wanasiasa wapumbava

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Messages:
    1,501
    Likes Received:
    87
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    PA
    Ratings:
    +87 / 0 / -0
    i just saw this article and was disgusted. they should be tried for manslaughter, if not murder
  4. KittenKoder
    Offline

    KittenKoder Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    23,281
    Likes Received:
    1,711
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Nowhere
    Ratings:
    +1,711 / 0 / -0
    Wait ... one was done on accident. So far all I have found were ones tossed in the dumpsters by parents who don't want them, this is a first.
  5. 007
    Offline

    007 Board has LIBERAL bias Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2004
    Messages:
    32,451
    Likes Received:
    5,836
    Trophy Points:
    133
    Location:
    One step away from heaven...
    Ratings:
    +5,843 / 1 / -0
    ALL abortion is murder, period. They KILL the baby. Whether it's 4 weeks old or 25 weeks old, inside the womb or outside the womb... they MURDER the baby.
    • Like Like x 1
  6. RodISHI
    Offline

    RodISHI Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2008
    Messages:
    5,034
    Likes Received:
    836
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    The heart of America
    Ratings:
    +836 / 0 / -0
    :sarcasm:Yea but it was in her body and a portion thereof according to those rights some would claim it's cool.:sarcasm:
  7. busara
    Offline

    busara wanasiasa wapumbava

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Messages:
    1,501
    Likes Received:
    87
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    PA
    Ratings:
    +87 / 0 / -0
    how bout we dont get into another rediculous "abortion is murder!" argument (because they always turn into arguments and not debates) and focus on the story
  8. Skull Pilot
    Offline

    Skull Pilot Gold Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2007
    Messages:
    20,015
    Likes Received:
    2,767
    Trophy Points:
    155
    Ratings:
    +2,864 / 19 / -0
    it wasn't a baby.

    Don't you know that the president voted against giving the living breathing products of botched abortions 14th amendment protections?

    As an Illinois state senator, Barack Obama twice opposed legislation to define as "persons" babies who survive late-term abortions. Babies like Gianna. Obama said in a speech on the Illinois Senate floor that he could not accept that babies wholly emerged from their mother's wombs are "persons," and thus deserving of equal protection under the Constitution's 14th Amendment.



    The American Spectator : The Audacity of Death
  9. jgbkab
    Offline

    jgbkab Relieved

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2008
    Messages:
    1,795
    Likes Received:
    127
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    SC
    Ratings:
    +127 / 0 / -0
    This was very tragic if this is truly what happened. But some of this doesn't add up to me. It said the cause of death was extreme prematurity. Does that mean that the baby didn't bleed out? It seems to me like this is a case of another frivilous lawsuit. Why would she name the baby if she went to have an abortion? If the baby's lungs filled with air, wouldn't it be crying? Not trying to spark a debate, it just doesn't seem right to me.
  10. Andrew2382
    Offline

    Andrew2382 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2008
    Messages:
    3,992
    Likes Received:
    530
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +530 / 0 / -0
    what mde this **** rag decide to get an abortion at 28 weeks....i hope she rots in fucking hell
  11. strollingbones
    Offline

    strollingbones Gold Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2008
    Messages:
    44,444
    Likes Received:
    9,412
    Trophy Points:
    133
    Location:
    crazy train
    Ratings:
    +9,412 / 0 / -0
    i simply cant fathom this....at all...but on the other side..this clinic will be closed due to this...i dont see how the clinic owner can avoid criminal charges.
  12. strollingbones
    Offline

    strollingbones Gold Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2008
    Messages:
    44,444
    Likes Received:
    9,412
    Trophy Points:
    133
    Location:
    crazy train
    Ratings:
    +9,412 / 0 / -0
    23 weeks...
  13. Sky Dancer
    Offline

    Sky Dancer BANNED

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2009
    Messages:
    19,307
    Likes Received:
    1,158
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +1,158 / 0 / -0
    This is one of the most extreme and worst cases I've heard of about an abortion. Truly, this was infanticide.

    I'd like to know more details. I smell a rat.
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2009
  14. auditor0007
    Offline

    auditor0007 VIP Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    10,425
    Likes Received:
    1,782
    Trophy Points:
    88
    Location:
    Toledo, OH
    Ratings:
    +1,806 / 0 / -0
    I personally don't care for abortion, although I won't go as far as calling it murder during the first trimester. I do realize that there is a legitimate debate to my view. However, in this case, at 23 weeks, this baby was only a few weeks from definite survivability. At 23 weeks, the baby has awareness which makes it a human being, without a doubt, and without a doubt, this was murder.
    • Like Like x 1
  15. doeton
    Offline

    doeton Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2008
    Messages:
    1,213
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +65 / 0 / -0
    why would the clinic toss the baby in the alley though?

    i mean seems like they want to cover that up a little better...
  16. Sky Dancer
    Offline

    Sky Dancer BANNED

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2009
    Messages:
    19,307
    Likes Received:
    1,158
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +1,158 / 0 / -0
    This is the worse case of throw the baby out with the bath water I've ever heard.
    • Like Like x 1
  17. doeton
    Offline

    doeton Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2008
    Messages:
    1,213
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +65 / 0 / -0
    ok, so the doc got his degree in Haiti...

    i'm filing this under the coat hanger abortion department...

    all the more reason for better regulations and easier access in the first trimester...
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2009
  18. Ravi
    Offline

    Ravi Gold Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2008
    Messages:
    61,004
    Likes Received:
    8,208
    Trophy Points:
    250
    Location:
    Hating Hatters
    Ratings:
    +8,270 / 25 / -0
    If true, murder is a crime and it always has been.
  19. garyd
    Offline

    garyd Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2008
    Messages:
    3,943
    Likes Received:
    401
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Oklahoma
    Ratings:
    +401 / 0 / -0
    Um doeton you moron 23 weeks is very nearly the third trimester. And the one's fighting any kind of regulation are the abortion providers themselves.
  20. Care4all
    Offline

    Care4all Warrior Princess Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2007
    Messages:
    22,704
    Likes Received:
    3,879
    Trophy Points:
    88
    Location:
    Maine
    Ratings:
    +3,896 / 0 / -0
    This is horrible!

    This doctor has had 5 previous malpractice suits against him of which his insurance has had to pay out, the article states...

    This is what really pisses me off about the AMA, they always protect their own.....and KEEP these SHITTY ASS DOCTORS that have had one malpractice suit after another of which they were at fault instead of thaking their medical license away, which is what should happen.

    Instead, people wonder why malpractice insurance is so high.... and it is so high for the innocent., good doctors, because the AMA KEEPS stupid ass lousy doctors and all the other good doctors have to pay for the shitty doctors mistakes through higher insurance.

    I had heard that less than 5% of all Medical Doctors have been sued for malpractice and the 5% are major repeat offenders.

    Anyway, sorry to change the subject
    • Like Like x 1

Share This Page