CDZ Law abiding citizens should be able to carry a gun, open or concealed in any state...

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    Here you go....murder of children with guns....

    http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

    Kids murdered by guns....

    under 1: 12
    age 1-4: 39

    age 5-14: 142

    total gun murder of children.....193



    Kids murdered by other means...

    under 1: 270
    age 1-4: 298
    age 5-14: 135



    murder of children by other means.....703
     
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    so?
     
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    Knowledge is power.

    1. "Guns are used quite commonly in self-defense; estimates of defensive gun uses per year range from 110,000 (National Crime Victimization Survey) to 1.5 million to 2.5 million or more (studies by criminologists Gary Kleck and Philip Cook). A very large majority of defensive uses simply involve display of the firearm (without a shot being fired), followed by the criminal’s hasty retreat.

    Nobody knows what the exact count is or how many of those uses save the lives of kids or other innocents.

    But we do know what happens in countries like Canada where the laws require that firearms be locked up: the burglary rate is significantly higher than in the United States. U.S. burglars almost always avoid occupied homes, for fear of being shot. But Canadian burglars are three times more likely than American burglars to break into a home when people are there. From the Canadian burglar’s viewpoint, a “hot burglary” (victims present) is often superior, since the alarm system will be turned off and there will be wallets and purses to grab."
    http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/loaded-guns-can-be-good-kids
     
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    got a figure for number of kids who catch stray bullets in the streets?
     
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    And keep in mind...the National Crime Victimization Survey is not an actual gun self defense study.......which is why it's number is so low....they never directly ask the survey taker if they used a gun for self defense, and the word "Gun" isn't even in the study.......that is why anti-gunners cling to it......

    And bill clinton's Department of Justice also did a study and found Americans use guns 1,500,000 times a year for self defense.
     
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    This is the militia:

    Federal law defines “the militia of the United States” to include all able-bodied males from 17 to 45 and members of the National Guard up to age 64, but excluding those who have no intention of becoming citizens, and active military personnel. (US Code Title 10, sect. 311-313)

    [http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311]


    Are you in the militia...or well past that age?
     
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    That would be gun murder.....and it is listed above....or accidental death, also listed above....
     
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    in that case I do not believe the published figures. --------they do not jibe with the magnitude of -------bullet in kids in the streets of my inner city ------are the stats just for
    some city in Texas or nationwide?
     
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    "CNN Article Admits Gun Accidents Among Children Are Literally 1 in a Million
    APRIL 12 2013
    Despite incidents such as the recent death of a 6-year-old New Jersey boy shot in the head by a 4-year-old playmate, as well as the accidental shooting of a Tennessee sheriff’s deputy’s wife by a 4-year-old boy, accidental firearms deaths are rare among children.

    According to the CDC’s National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, 703 children under the age of 15 died in accidental firearms deaths between 2001 and 2010, the latest year for which the agency’s statistics on fatalities are available. During the same period, 7,766 children under the age of 14 suffered accidental firearms injuries — about one injury for every million children."
    CNN Article Admits Gun Accidents Among Children Are Literally 1 in a Million


    Do you own a gun?
    Do you plan to?
    If not, why are you asking?
     
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    False, as you full well know and have been repeatedly shown.



    • "As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."
      — Tench Coxe, in `Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution� under the Pseudonym `A Pennsylvanian� in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789 at 2 col. 1).
    • "The prohibition is general. No clause in the Constitution could by any rule of construction be conceived to give to Congress a power to disarm the people. Such a flagitious attempt could only be made under some general pretense by a state legislature. But if in any blind pursuit of inordinate power, either should attempt it, this amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both."
      — William Rawle, A View of the Constitution 125-6 (2nd ed. 1829)
    • "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
      — George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788
    • "Whereas civil-rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as military forces, which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."
      -- Tench Coxe, in Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution
    • "The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
      -- Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-188
    • If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual State. In a single State, if the persons entrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.
      -- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28
     

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