Latino Americans Loyalty

[GHook93]

First I like to point out that Latinos are not just Mexican they made of many national origins.

So here is the question how loyal are they to America. Do they considered themselves Americans or Latinos. In the not to distant future Latinos will tip 50% in CA (they are 5% away from being the majority), TX and NM very soon. And will eventually tip the scales in AZ. These are areas that many in Mexico believe as Mexican territory and what racist organization like La Raza believe is part of the Atlzan.

Now here is the question when the Latino hit the 50% mark and if a vote came to succeed from the US and join Mexico, would the majority do it? What happens when they become 75% would they do it?

 

[Shogun]

Maybe we should have them all take an oath validating the preservation of a white America....

 

[GHook93]

Maybe we should have them all take an oath validating the preservation of a white America....

Don't troll this has nothing to due with Israel or Jews! So shut the fuck up. Its in response to the recent Jose thread

 

[Shogun]

Maybe we should have them all take an oath validating the preservation of a white America....

Don't troll this has nothing to due with Israel or Jews! So shut the fuck up. Its in response to the recent Jose thread

and yet it is DIRECTLY ironic to your take on israeli oaths to a JEWISH israel. Which is EXACTLY what Jose will tell you. So, again, what American Oath are you interested in seeing latinos take that you, yourself, are not willing to make?

(ps, so, hows that Shogun quote thread going? Finding anything that suggests that I want more dead jews?)

 

[JBeukema]

wtf is 'No, Greater Gen Great'?!

 

[José]

Originally posted by GHook93
Its in response to the recent Jose thread

Dude... read my thread again, please.

Last time I checked I hadn't been designated Aztlan's official spokesman... for the time being, at least, I speak for myself.

I just urged America to call a landgrab what it really is: a landgrab, just like it has done in the past regarding its native population.

How many american farmers lost their properties so that the original inhabitants can use them to hunt buffalos again because of that magnanimous, courageous decision taken a few decades ago?

How many american citizens are leaving their homes and taking the journey back to Europe and Africa?

How many Saguaros will America lose if it decides to do the same again and come clean on the history of Cali, Texas etc...

Here's a deal I'm sure you'll deem too good to pass up:

Recognise the historical truth about what happened in the 19th century and then send the american army to patrol the southern border.

This would be perfectly fine by me.

 

[GHook93]

wtf is 'No, Greater Gen Great'?!

The poll limits the length of what I can put.

The greater the geneation the greater the affiliation. 1st generation is a immigrate. 2nd generation is the son of the immigrate born here. The 3rd is that person son. The more generations that are born here in theory they become more American and less like the old country. The greater the generation the more they affiliate with America and support her over any other country!

 

[GHook93]

Never said you did! Just curious Jose, how many MexAmericans do you think would rather have CA, AZ, NM and TX as part of Mexico vs America? Which do you perfer.

I personally think most perfer it stay American, especially amongst the 3rd generations and greater. However, if Latinos every made up 90% of those states, I see a big push for them to become either an Independent New Country or to become part of Mexico!

Originally posted by GHook93
Its in response to the recent Jose thread

Dude... read my thread again, please.

Last time I checked I hadn't designated Aztlan's official spokesman... for the time being, at least, I speak for myself.

I just urged America to call a landgrab what it really is: a landgrab, just like it has done in the past regarding its native population.

How many american farmers lost their properties so that the original inhabitants can use them to hunt buffalos again because of that magnanimous, courageous decision taken a few decades ago?

How many american citizens are leaving their homes and taking the journey back to Europe and Africa?

How many Saguaros will America lose if it decides to do the same again and come clean on the history of Cali, Texas etc...

Here's a deal I'm sure you'll deem too good to pass up:

Recognise the historical truth about what happened in the 19th century and then send the american army to patrol the southern border.

This would be perfectly fine by me.

 

[Ravi]

Why does the ethnic make up matter at all, Ghook?

 

[eagleseven]

There is a critical flaw in this poll.

Our demographers view them all as Latino. They see themselves as Mexican, or Puerto Rican, or Honduran, or Colombian, or Cuban. There's no "Latino Unity," it is just a name used by the government and porn studios.

Here in NY I know several Hondurans and a few Puerto Ricans who HATE to be associated with, or even called, Mexican. Yes, they all speak Spanish, but the similarities end there.


In my personal experience, the non-Mexican Latinos tend to be the most pro-USA, while the Mexicans living in racial enclaves tend to be the most anti-USA. We'll sooner see Puerto Rico become a state than see California secede.

 

[Shogun]

Why does the ethnic make up matter at all, Ghook?

Are you kidding me? Was that a trick question?

 

[GHook93]

Why does the ethnic make up matter at all, Ghook?

In a perfect world it doesn't, but in inperfect worlds it might. Many Mexican Americans see the SW as rightful part of Mexico as Jose demostrated in an earlier thread. Latinos are made of many different ethnic groups, South Americans, Central Americans, Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, Colombian and Spaniards. Although by far Mexicans make up the biggest chunk, most don't view themselves homogenously as America lumps them together. However, I still think many Latinos still more identify with the culture, language and ethnicity of Mexico than they do with American.

CA, TX and NM sooner rather than later will have a 50%+ majority Latino population, where the majority of those Latinos will be of Mexican national origins. When the that happens I wonder the changes that might come about. Not to mention the fact that CA and TX are 2 of the most important states in national elections.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Ho-kay, hom-bres! Lissen' yup. The immgants who are here, including the overwhelming mega-majority of the 12mm illegals, are 'home'. They are not going back to where they came from anymore than African Americas were going to Africa or CrusaderFrank is going to Iraq or Gunny is going to Pitcairm Island, although their lifestyle would appeal to him or the illegal Euro-Americans were going to leave Mexican Texas in the 1830s.

Much greater possibility exists in the nutjobs being rounded up than all of the illegals.

So let's work on reform than wasting oxygen debating what is never going to happen.

 

[GHook93]

There is a critical flaw in this poll.

Our demographers view them all as Latino. They see themselves as Mexican, or Puerto Rican, or Honduran, or Colombian, or Cuban.

There's no "Latino Unity," it is just a name used by the government and porn studios.

Very very true. But when you take the American Southwest, the primary Latino group by far are Mexican Americans! But that is a crucial flaw in the whole concept of the Latino grouping!

Here in NY I know several Hondurans and a few Puerto Ricans who HATE to be associated with, or even called, Mexican. Yes, they all speak Spanish, but the similarities end there

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Yet that doesn't stop many of them from joining La Raza, just ask our new Supreme Court Justice!

In my personal experience, the non-Mexican Latinos tend to be the most pro-USA, while the Mexicans living in racial enclaves tend to be the most anti-USA. We'll sooner see Puerto Rico become a state than see California secede.

I hope you are right. But the primary Latino group in CA, TX, AZ and NM are Mexicans! And if you are correct that they are more anti-american, then the poll has merit on the SW being suceed to Mexico or Atlzan when the percentage grow over certain numbers.

 

[GHook93]

Ho-kay, hom-bres! Lissen' yup. The immgants who are here, including the overwhelming mega-majority of the 12mm illegals, are 'home'. They are not going back to where they came from anymore than African Americas were going to Africa or CrusaderFrank is going to Iraq or Gunny is going to Pitcairm Island, although their lifestyle would appeal to him or the illegal Euro-Americans were going to leave Mexican Texas in the 1830s.

Who says they are going home! Nice straw man! Rather they suceed the lands that their homes are on to Mexico or form a new nation (Atlzan) via the Kosovo Model!

Much greater possibility exists in the nutjobs being rounded up than all of the illegals.

CA is where the most illegals are located and its a broke state, even before the economic downturn. Illegal immigrations needs to be combated, yet liberals like you try to make that impossible and then blame the ills of society on the Republicans, ironic!

 

[Ravi]

Why does the ethnic make up matter at all, Ghook?

In a perfect world it doesn't, but in inperfect worlds it might. Many Mexican Americans see the SW as rightful part of Mexico as Jose demostrated in an earlier thread. Latinos are made of many different ethnic groups, South Americans, Central Americans, Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, Colombian and Spaniards. Although by far Mexicans make up the biggest chunk, most don't view themselves homogenously as America lumps them together. However, I still think many Latinos still more identify with the culture, language and ethnicity of Mexico than they do with American.

CA, TX and NM sooner rather than later will have a 50%+ majority Latino population, where the majority of those Latinos will be of Mexican national origins. When the that happens I wonder the changes that might come about. Not to mention the fact that CA and TX are 2 of the most important states in national elections.

The key thing is to let them become loyal Americans. Americans usually put their country first...and certainly their children do. Much ado about nada, IMO.

 

[Shogun]

seriously. is it ANY wonder what is at play behind Ghook's zionism?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Ghook93 truly believes in his delusion. Yup, huuuuk, hom-bre, is yust anuddr broke pene.

 

[Epsilon Delta]

It's kinda like asking "If blacks are the majority in X state, will they make it part of 'Africa'?" Or "If asians become the majority in X state, will they make it part of 'Asia'?"

Besides, don't you remember what happened last time a state tried to seceed? It's just not gonna happen dude. It's a silly scenario.

 

[Shogun]

It's kinda like asking "If blacks are the majority in X state, will they make it part of 'Africa'?" Or "If asians become the majority in X state, will they make it part of 'Asia'?"

Besides, don't you remember what happened last time a state tried to seceed? It's just not gonna happen dude. It's a silly scenario.

ironically, lil JEWhook will never, EVER sign a similar oath that requires a seperation of his support for isreal from his support for the US. Indeed, he'd be busy telling whoever requires the oath what kind of jooo hating antisemite they are.

But, for latinos and palestinians.. you know.. less than chosen ethnicities... it's just necessary.