Latest Liberal Response to Terrorist Incident: Can the Can

[ScreamingEagle]

The insanity of liberalism is on full display with the airlines. Your personal freedoms are being curtailed more and more in the name of "protecting" you...

You are being treated like a criminal suspect every time you take a flight. Your freedoms are being severely hampered while a potential terrorist can scamper around every new rule that is made. Every time there is another incident, more of your freedoms are taken away.....It's to the point now that liberals seem to think banning the bathroom an hour before landing would help....this is liberal insanity......what would prevent a terrorist from setting off the bomb 1.5 hours before landing.....?

How about some effective PROFILING.....something any SANE GOVERNMENT should do to protect its citizens from the obvious....why can't we REVOKE the searches on ordinary people and can the inane, insane, suffocating rules.....or is there something more insidious going on here...........?

As a result of the highly suspicious incident on Christmas Day where a Nigerian man on a terror watchlist with no passport and explosive materials was allowed to board Delta Flight 253, suffocating security paranoia has been implemented to the point where bathroom visits are now considered potential terrorism.
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And yet this farce represents merely the tip of the iceberg in terms of the intensified harassment and lunacy now being witnessed in airports across the world all in the name of preventing a threat that is in reality less deadly than lightening strikes and peanut allergies, both of which have killed more Americans over the past few decades than terrorism.

If you thought that mothers having to taste their own breast milk and naked body scans was a little over the top, it’s only going to get worse as a result of an incident that has all the hallmarks of a staged event. Body searches, baggage searches and vehicle searches even outside of the airport are now taking place with a wanton disregard for the 4th amendment.

Authorities are too busy shaking down Grandma to really care about how a man who was known to be a security threat, was on a terror watchlist, had no passport and had explosive materials embedded in his clothing was allowed to board a plane, aided by a sharp-dressed man who lied about his circumstances.

Once again, Americans who will willfully endure whatever humiliation they are ordered to undergo are being trained to obey the most ridiculous rules in the airport so that similar measures can eventually become a normal routine on the streets, in shopping malls and any other places of public gathering

Bathroom Visits Now Considered Potential Terrorism

 

[rightwinger]

Whats your problem?

They are going to hand out diapers before you take off. You Conservatives should be used to that

 

[Ravi]

I'm surprised that someone that claims to be a "conservative" is against all the retarded airport security measures we have to put up with.

As for profiling...sure, go right ahead. But once they know the profile they just modify the behavior to get past it.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Whats your problem?

They are going to hand out diapers before you take off. You Conservatives should be used to that

My problem is stupid liberals like you who can't even label themselves properly (unless you claim to be a Nazi) who are going to be the death of American freedom....

 

[LibocalypseNow]

They clearly were aware of this guy's ties to Terrorists yet did nothing. They were also well aware of the Ft. Hood Terrorist Hasan's ties to Terrorists yet did nothing there as well. Anyone else notice this very disturbing pattern. For whatever reasons this Administration refuses to take action before a Terrorist Attack. You'll have to ask them why this is so. They only seem to want to react and white wash investigations after attacks. This incredibly scary incompetence going on in this administration's Homeland Security Department should be alarming to all Americans. Changes must be made at the top.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

I'm surprised that someone that claims to be a "conservative" is against all the retarded airport security measures we have to put up with.

As for profiling...sure, go right ahead. But once they know the profile they just modify the behavior to get past it.

Like do what.....? Pretend to be old grannies?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

They clearly were aware of this guy's ties to Terrorists yet did nothing. They were also well aware of the Ft. Hood Terrorist Hasan's ties to Terrorists yet did nothing there as well. Anyone else notice this very disturbing pattern. For whatever reasons this Administration refuses to take action before a Terrorist Attack. You'll have to ask them why this is so. They only seem to want to react and white wash investigations after attacks. This incredibly scary incompetence going on in this administration's Homeland Security Department should be alarming to all Americans. Changes must be made at the top.

Yes, Obama's speech just a few moments ago was just more whitewash....

 

[chanel]

Israeli airport official interview people in line. I think that is a lot more productive than following people into the bathroom.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Israeli airport official interview people in line. I think that is a lot more productive than following people into the bathroom.

A few good trained specialists and former cops could do the job way better than the retards that usually work as "security"......plus have pre-flight screenings of passenger lists...

 

[Ravi]

How much money do you want to spend and where does it come from?

 

[LibocalypseNow]

What the H*ll is Janet Napolitano doing with all those $Billions? They can't or wont even stop people who they know have Terror-ties but they are going to stop them by doing full body searches on little old ladies? Yikes! Big changes must happen at the top of Homeland Security for me to have any faith in them. There is some serious & dangerous incompetence going on in this administration's Homeland Security Department. They need to accept this and begin making those big changes immediately. I hope they do wake up before it's too late for many.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

How much money do you want to spend and where does it come from?

How much is already being spent.....and by whom?

 

[rightwinger]

Whats your problem?

They are going to hand out diapers before you take off. You Conservatives should be used to that

My problem is stupid liberals like you who can't even label themselves properly (unless you claim to be a Nazi) who are going to be the death of American freedom....

yea right!

Like you are really an EAGLE....I wasn't fooled

 

[ScreamingEagle]

What the H*ll is Janet Napolitano doing with all those $Billions? They can't or wont even stop people who they know have Terror-ties but they are going to stop them by doing full body searches on little old ladies? Yikes! Big changes must happen at the top of Homeland Security for me to have any faith in them. There is some serious & dangerous incompetence going on in this administration's Homeland Security Department. They need to accept this and begin making those big changes immediately. I hope they do wake up before it's too late for many.

Big changes indeed.....have you seen this video?

POLICE STATE US UK 2010

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[LibocalypseNow]

Yes and Hopey Changey Golfs while the Terrorists attack. Something is terribly wrong and it can't be just me who knows this.

 

[2Parties]

All the incidents involving aircraft prove one thing: we do NOT NEED reform in government security of the industry. We need government out of it. Period.

 

[WillowTree]

The insanity of liberalism is on full display with the airlines. Your personal freedoms are being curtailed more and more in the name of "protecting" you...

You are being treated like a criminal suspect every time you take a flight. Your freedoms are being severely hampered while a potential terrorist can scamper around every new rule that is made. Every time there is another incident, more of your freedoms are taken away.....It's to the point now that liberals seem to think banning the bathroom an hour before landing would help....this is liberal insanity......what would prevent a terrorist from setting off the bomb 1.5 hours before landing.....?

How about some effective PROFILING.....something any SANE GOVERNMENT should do to protect its citizens from the obvious....why can't we REVOKE the searches on ordinary people and can the inane, insane, suffocating rules.....or is there something more insidious going on here...........?

As a result of the highly suspicious incident on Christmas Day where a Nigerian man on a terror watchlist with no passport and explosive materials was allowed to board Delta Flight 253, suffocating security paranoia has been implemented to the point where bathroom visits are now considered potential terrorism.
...

And yet this farce represents merely the tip of the iceberg in terms of the intensified harassment and lunacy now being witnessed in airports across the world all in the name of preventing a threat that is in reality less deadly than lightening strikes and peanut allergies, both of which have killed more Americans over the past few decades than terrorism.

If you thought that mothers having to taste their own breast milk and naked body scans was a little over the top, it’s only going to get worse as a result of an incident that has all the hallmarks of a staged event. Body searches, baggage searches and vehicle searches even outside of the airport are now taking place with a wanton disregard for the 4th amendment.

Authorities are too busy shaking down Grandma to really care about how a man who was known to be a security threat, was on a terror watchlist, had no passport and had explosive materials embedded in his clothing was allowed to board a plane, aided by a sharp-dressed man who lied about his circumstances.

Once again, Americans who will willfully endure whatever humiliation they are ordered to undergo are being trained to obey the most ridiculous rules in the airport so that similar measures can eventually become a normal routine on the streets, in shopping malls and any other places of public gathering

Bathroom Visits Now Considered Potential Terrorism

Sucks donut? The State Department and the Dept. of Homeland Security fucks up and now we can't go to the bathroom. wth?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

The insanity of liberalism is on full display with the airlines. Your personal freedoms are being curtailed more and more in the name of "protecting" you...

You are being treated like a criminal suspect every time you take a flight. Your freedoms are being severely hampered while a potential terrorist can scamper around every new rule that is made. Every time there is another incident, more of your freedoms are taken away.....It's to the point now that liberals seem to think banning the bathroom an hour before landing would help....this is liberal insanity......what would prevent a terrorist from setting off the bomb 1.5 hours before landing.....?

How about some effective PROFILING.....something any SANE GOVERNMENT should do to protect its citizens from the obvious....why can't we REVOKE the searches on ordinary people and can the inane, insane, suffocating rules.....or is there something more insidious going on here...........?

As a result of the highly suspicious incident on Christmas Day where a Nigerian man on a terror watchlist with no passport and explosive materials was allowed to board Delta Flight 253, suffocating security paranoia has been implemented to the point where bathroom visits are now considered potential terrorism.
...

And yet this farce represents merely the tip of the iceberg in terms of the intensified harassment and lunacy now being witnessed in airports across the world all in the name of preventing a threat that is in reality less deadly than lightening strikes and peanut allergies, both of which have killed more Americans over the past few decades than terrorism.

If you thought that mothers having to taste their own breast milk and naked body scans was a little over the top, it’s only going to get worse as a result of an incident that has all the hallmarks of a staged event. Body searches, baggage searches and vehicle searches even outside of the airport are now taking place with a wanton disregard for the 4th amendment.

Authorities are too busy shaking down Grandma to really care about how a man who was known to be a security threat, was on a terror watchlist, had no passport and had explosive materials embedded in his clothing was allowed to board a plane, aided by a sharp-dressed man who lied about his circumstances.

Once again, Americans who will willfully endure whatever humiliation they are ordered to undergo are being trained to obey the most ridiculous rules in the airport so that similar measures can eventually become a normal routine on the streets, in shopping malls and any other places of public gathering

Bathroom Visits Now Considered Potential Terrorism

Sucks donut? The State Department and the Dept. of Homeland Security fucks up and now we can't go to the bathroom. wth?

How much more can....will.....the sheeple take?

 

[keee keee]

These same morons will now be running our healthcare system as ineptly as they are running the NSA. scary isn't it!!! God help us!!! Morons need apply Obama and friends will find you incompetants a new joB in the healthcare industry!!!

 

[Ravi]

These same morons will now be running our healthcare system as ineptly as they are running the NSA. scary isn't it!!! God help us!!! Morons need apply Obama and friends will find you incompetants a new joB in the healthcare industry!!!

There have been precisely three attempts over the last eight years to commit acts of terrorism aboard commercial aircraft. All of them clownishly inept and easily thwarted by the passengers. How many tens of thousands of flights have been incident free?​

Let's expand Joyner's scope out to the past decade. Over the past decade, there have been, by my count, six attempted terrorist incidents on board a commercial airliner than landed in or departed from the United States: the four planes that were hijacked on 9/11, the shoe bomber incident in December 2001, and the NWA flight 253 incident on Christmas.

The Bureau of Transportation Statistics provides a wealth of statistical information on air traffic. For this exercise, I will look at both domestic flights within the US, and international flights whose origin or destination was within the United States. I will not look at flights that transported cargo and crew only. I will look at flights spanning the decade from October 1999 through September 2009 inclusive (the BTS does not yet have data available for the past couple of months).

Over the past decade, according to BTS, there have been 99,320,309 commercial airline departures that either originated or landed within the United States. Dividing by six, we get one terrorist incident per 16,553,385 departures.

These departures flew a collective 69,415,786,000 miles. That means there has been one terrorist incident per 11,569,297,667 mles flown. This distance is equivalent to 1,459,664 trips around the diameter of the Earth, 24,218 round trips to the Moon, or two round trips to Neptune.

Assuming an average airborne speed of 425 miles per hour, these airplanes were aloft for a total of 163,331,261 hours. Therefore, there has been one terrorist incident per 27,221,877 hours airborne. This can also be expressed as one incident per 1,134,245 days airborne, or one incident per 3,105 years airborne.

There were a total of 674 passengers, not counting crew or the terrorists themselves, on the flights on which these incidents occurred. By contrast, there have been 7,015,630,000 passenger enplanements over the past decade. Therefore, the odds of being on given departure which is the subject of a terrorist incident have been 1 in 10,408,947 over the past decade. By contrast, the odds of being struck by lightning in a given year are about 1 in 500,000. This means that you could board 20 flights per year and still be less likely to be the subject of an attempted terrorist attack than to be struck by lightning.


FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: The Odds of Airborne Terror