Largest tax increase in history?

Right wingers are brainwashed idiots that don't have the mental capabilities to understand facts, nor do they care.
Their stupidity limits them to only understanding simple catch phrases like "Obamatax"

Which Obama swore it wasn't.

It's not a tax. But it is a tax. That is how the admin. argued it.

Does the term Liar mean anything to you....

Or does your lemming genepool disallow you to pull your head out of your ass (that is you in you avi...it has to be). and realize that just because your fairy dust plays with your brain and makes you see things that are not there...that others are not taking your fairy dust and are not seeing the mirages you see.

While you are still not the jackass that some are.....you've made apparent you are a jackass in record time !
 
OK, Jim, explain just how that is the case at present.

Ok Old Rocks, lets just buy everyone a 60" flatscreen 3D tv. Why not? That wont cost anyone anything, afterall it's just government money and noone has to pay, is that your arguement? and if not, let us know how this is wrong.

Krugman would agree because debt = income so the government can just borrow it all...free!
 
Republican hyperbole is already in overdrive. "Largest tax increase in history" "$500 billion tax increase"

Here is what Justice Roberts said..

[IThe Federal Government does not have the power to order people to buy health insurance. Section 5000A would therefore be unconstitutional if read as a command. The Federal Government does have the power to impose a tax on those without health insurance. Section 5000A is therefore constitutional, because it can reasonably be read as a tax.] [/I]

What is considered a tax is the penalty for those who do not have health insurance..........How do Republicans spin that into the largest tax increase in history?

Because of everything that was embedded in the bill that had to be voted on in order to see what was in it.

Americans for Tax Reform : Comprehensive List of Obama Tax Increases
 
Which part of this is new since yesterdays Supreme Court Decision?

All of these taxes are taking money from one place and redistributing it someplace else. CBO has determined that over a ten year period, there is a net decrease in costs. Of course you only include the minuses without identifying the corresponding plusses

Taxes are redistribution (of wealth)??:eek: Shocking!

By the way, as I recall, CBO determined that it would reduce the deficit, not that there would be a decrease in costs. Reducing the deficit by a few billion is not so hard when you're raising so much in revenue (taxes); a little gets sprinkled to the deficit and everything is good. Still, hundreds of billions of dollars leave the private sector for redistribution by the public sector.

Interesting game that Republicans play..

They scream....You can't pass healthcare.....You can't pass healthcare.....we can't afford it

So Obama comes up with a self supporting healthcare plan which takes money from one sector and uses it in another. It pays for itself

Now Republicans whimper......But....but....you are taxing some people

Face it Republicans...You do not want Americans to have affordable healthcare no matter what the solution
 
IF the Republicans win simple majorities in November, then can repeal this tax bill.


Easy peasy, lemon squeazy.

You are a dreamer. The republicans spent two years filibustering the entire democratic agenda.

They can expect the same. Not to mention that should Obama win he has veto power.
 
Republican hyperbole is already in overdrive. "Largest tax increase in history" "$500 billion tax increase"

Here is what Justice Roberts said..

[IThe Federal Government does not have the power to order people to buy health insurance. Section 5000A would therefore be unconstitutional if read as a command. The Federal Government does have the power to impose a tax on those without health insurance. Section 5000A is therefore constitutional, because it can reasonably be read as a tax.] [/I]

What is considered a tax is the penalty for those who do not have health insurance..........How do Republicans spin that into the largest tax increase in history?
Hoisted on your petard.

It is the largest tax increase in American history.

Because if it is not a tax increase, it is un-Constitutional.

Take your pick.
 
Which part of this is new since yesterdays Supreme Court Decision?

All of these taxes are taking money from one place and redistributing it someplace else. CBO has determined that over a ten year period, there is a net decrease in costs. Of course you only include the minuses without identifying the corresponding plusses

Taxes are redistribution (of wealth)??:eek: Shocking!

By the way, as I recall, CBO determined that it would reduce the deficit, not that there would be a decrease in costs. Reducing the deficit by a few billion is not so hard when you're raising so much in revenue (taxes); a little gets sprinkled to the deficit and everything is good. Still, hundreds of billions of dollars leave the private sector for redistribution by the public sector.

Interesting game that Republicans play..

They scream....You can't pass healthcare.....You can't pass healthcare.....we can't afford it

So Obama comes up with a self supporting healthcare plan which takes money from one sector and uses it in another. It pays for itself

Now Republicans whimper......But....but....you are taxing some people

Face it Republicans...You do not want Americans to have affordable healthcare no matter what the solution

Please tell us you aren't that stupid!? The law has 21 taxes that will be collected to "support" it. Where do you think the tax money will come from? From the middle class! Self supporting. Sheesh! Wanna buy a nice bridge?
 
Republican hyperbole is already in overdrive. "Largest tax increase in history" "$500 billion tax increase"

Here is what Justice Roberts said..

[IThe Federal Government does not have the power to order people to buy health insurance. Section 5000A would therefore be unconstitutional if read as a command. The Federal Government does have the power to impose a tax on those without health insurance. Section 5000A is therefore constitutional, because it can reasonably be read as a tax.] [/I]

What is considered a tax is the penalty for those who do not have health insurance..........How do Republicans spin that into the largest tax increase in history?
Hoisted on your petard.

It is the largest tax increase in American history.

Because if it is not a tax increase, it is un-Constitutional.

Take your pick.

Bullshit.........ever heard of the Revenue Act of 1913?

Regardless ....Obamacare was funded by the healthcare sector. When Obama started talking healthcare, Republicans SCREAMED....We can't aford it

So a healthcare plan was formulated which taxes some sectors of healthcare to pay for others. A bill which is fully funded unlike Republican Medicare Part D
 
Taxes are redistribution (of wealth)??:eek: Shocking!

By the way, as I recall, CBO determined that it would reduce the deficit, not that there would be a decrease in costs. Reducing the deficit by a few billion is not so hard when you're raising so much in revenue (taxes); a little gets sprinkled to the deficit and everything is good. Still, hundreds of billions of dollars leave the private sector for redistribution by the public sector.

Interesting game that Republicans play..

They scream....You can't pass healthcare.....You can't pass healthcare.....we can't afford it

So Obama comes up with a self supporting healthcare plan which takes money from one sector and uses it in another. It pays for itself

Now Republicans whimper......But....but....you are taxing some people

Face it Republicans...You do not want Americans to have affordable healthcare no matter what the solution

Please tell us you aren't that stupid!? The law has 21 taxes that will be collected to "support" it. Where do you think the tax money will come from? From the middle class! Self supporting. Sheesh! Wanna buy a nice bridge?

How else do you think bills should be funded?

Obamacare went through multiple funding iterations to make sure it was a fully funded program with sustainable funding.

More Bullshit from Conservatives who insisted funding had to be in place for a bill they had no intention of voting for
 
Somehow the GOP seems to think that emergency room care is cheaper than preventive care. And one can clearly see that the cost per capita of the other industrial nations is much below ours, with far better results. Yet the GOP continues to support a system that has high costs for inferior results. It could not be because there are a few people that get very wealthy off of other people's misfortunes in this system, could it.

President Obama phrased it very well. Our health system should be such that a family is not forced into bankruptcy by an accident or an illness. The GOP wants to see 750,000 American families in bankruptcy every year. Just warms the cockles of their little hearts to see how superior they are to these deadbeats.

Acute care costs roughly 3X as much as therapy.
 
Interesting game that Republicans play..

They scream....You can't pass healthcare.....You can't pass healthcare.....we can't afford it

So Obama comes up with a self supporting healthcare plan which takes money from one sector and uses it in another. It pays for itself

Now Republicans whimper......But....but....you are taxing some people

Face it Republicans...You do not want Americans to have affordable healthcare no matter what the solution

Please tell us you aren't that stupid!? The law has 21 taxes that will be collected to "support" it. Where do you think the tax money will come from? From the middle class! Self supporting. Sheesh! Wanna buy a nice bridge?

How else do you think bills should be funded?

Obamacare went through multiple funding iterations to make sure it was a fully funded program with sustainable funding.

More Bullshit from Conservatives who insisted funding had to be in place for a bill they had no intention of voting for

The cost gets passed to the consumer. The middle class takes the hit in increased pricing. But you knew that.
 
Republican hyperbole is already in overdrive. "Largest tax increase in history" "$500 billion tax increase"

Here is what Justice Roberts said..

[IThe Federal Government does not have the power to order people to buy health insurance. Section 5000A would therefore be unconstitutional if read as a command. The Federal Government does have the power to impose a tax on those without health insurance. Section 5000A is therefore constitutional, because it can reasonably be read as a tax.] [/I]

What is considered a tax is the penalty for those who do not have health insurance..........How do Republicans spin that into the largest tax increase in history?


The Internal Revenue Service will be taking this 'penalty' out of people's income tax return. Republican's don't have to spin this as a tax--reasonable American tax payers will view it as a tax because that is, by the definition of the damned word, what it is.

The Democrats are betting on the fact that enough Americans, roughly 50%, that do not pay taxes will not be upset about this. But those people do get a tax return, and they are about to see a sizable chunk of that return that millions have come to rely on annually be turned over to the IRS.

This issue cost the Democrats the House in 2010, and it will post them the presidency in 2012. :clap2:
 
The largest tax increase by far in my lifetime was when St Reagan signed off on the 1986 Income Tax Reform Act.
 
Largest tax increase in history?

Republican hyperbole is already in overdrive. "Largest tax increase in history" "$500 billion tax increase"

Here is what Justice Roberts said..

[IThe Federal Government does not have the power to order people to buy health insurance. Section 5000A would therefore be unconstitutional if read as a command. The Federal Government does have the power to impose a tax on those without health insurance. Section 5000A is therefore constitutional, because it can reasonably be read as a tax.] [/I]

What is considered a tax is the penalty for those who do not have health insurance..........How do Republicans spin that into the largest tax increase in history?

That'd be a Republican-rerun.....and (as would-be-expected), it was bullshit......​


:eusa_hand:

Hell.....we're ALREADY saving money......​

 
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Right wingers are brainwashed idiots that don't have the mental capabilities to understand facts, nor do they care.
Their stupidity limits them to only understanding simple catch phrases like "Obamatax"

Seriously. And yet they are unable to grasp what the first "A" in ACA stands for. Bunch of idiots. Simply cannot grasp that entitlements actually make money. And this massive gift from god is gonna see us all a bit richer.
 
Interesting game that Republicans play..

They scream....You can't pass healthcare.....You can't pass healthcare.....we can't afford it

So Obama comes up with a self supporting healthcare plan which takes money from one sector and uses it in another. It pays for itself

Now Republicans whimper......But....but....you are taxing some people

Face it Republicans...You do not want Americans to have affordable healthcare no matter what the solution

Please tell us you aren't that stupid!? The law has 21 taxes that will be collected to "support" it. Where do you think the tax money will come from? From the middle class! Self supporting. Sheesh! Wanna buy a nice bridge?

How else do you think bills should be funded?

Obamacare went through multiple funding iterations to make sure it was a fully funded program with sustainable funding.

More Bullshit from Conservatives who insisted funding had to be in place for a bill they had no intention of voting for

Seriously. They act like the CBO has no idea what it's doing.
 
Interesting game that Republicans play..

They scream....You can't pass healthcare.....You can't pass healthcare.....we can't afford it

So Obama comes up with a self supporting healthcare plan which takes money from one sector and uses it in another. It pays for itself

Now Republicans whimper......But....but....you are taxing some people

Face it Republicans...You do not want Americans to have affordable healthcare no matter what the solution

Please tell us you aren't that stupid!? The law has 21 taxes that will be collected to "support" it. Where do you think the tax money will come from? From the middle class! Self supporting. Sheesh! Wanna buy a nice bridge?

How else do you think bills should be funded?

Obamacare went through multiple funding iterations to make sure it was a fully funded program with sustainable funding.

More Bullshit from Conservatives who insisted funding had to be in place for a bill they had no intention of voting for

So are you admitting it is a tax? Surely you aren't this dense--the president is.

Stephanopoulos couldn't get an honest answer out of the president, and I am not expecting to get one out of you.

You are delusional, though, if you don't believe that people, not Republicans, but everyone is going to view this as anything but a tax. It is going to be taken out of their TAX return by the IRS. This already is not popular, just wait till millions of tax payers get to keep less of their money.
 
Please tell us you aren't that stupid!? The law has 21 taxes that will be collected to "support" it. Where do you think the tax money will come from? From the middle class! Self supporting. Sheesh! Wanna buy a nice bridge?

How else do you think bills should be funded?

Obamacare went through multiple funding iterations to make sure it was a fully funded program with sustainable funding.

More Bullshit from Conservatives who insisted funding had to be in place for a bill they had no intention of voting for

Seriously. They act like the CBO has no idea what it's doing.

.....Unless, of course, the CBO agrees-with-them....which isn't very-often.​
 

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