Landlords and Tenants

[BlueJay28]

Why do people rent from private individual landlords, knowing :

They have more discretion over who they rent to.
They are far more personal and particular and petty and resentful in nature, than a board of trained business pros.

In real estate rentals, corporate complexes are more efficient and lower cost, and come with much more amenities and the complex serves as at least A shelter from crime and the poor conditions of a bad neighborhood.

Nearly 98 % of all landlord-tenant cases on the court's docket are private individual landlords.

In a court room, The law favors the private individual landlord, much more than it favors a corporate complex because the home is a residence and the apartment is a business.

 

[SwimExpert]

1 - What the fuck are you talking about? What kind of "corporate complex" do you propose people rent from? Are you trying to suggest that everyone should live in apartments? There aren't enough apartments in the world to make that anything less than a fucking batshit crazy idea born of megasized stupidity.

2 - If people want to rent a house, let them rent a fucking house. Some people like the autonomy, privacy, and extra space of a house, compared to an apartment. Some people prefer the comparable lower rental costs of renting a house and would rather take on the responsibility of addressing yard work and routine property maintenance themselves. Some people like to plant gardens in the front yard. Some people like being a handy man.

3 - The majority of landlord-tenant cases that go to court are evictions. So your attempt to allege that private landlords are inherently evil is an epic fail.

4 - The law handles landlord-tenant cases the same, regardless of who is the landlord. Generally speaking, landlord-tenant law inherently favors the tenant, with wide ranging protections for tenants and comparatively few, slow moving remedies available to landlords. It does not matter if the landlord is an apartment complex or an individual house owner, if you are owed back a security deposit you are owed the security deposit. If you have failed to pay the rent for the past 3 months you have failed to pay the rent for the past three months. If the landlord has violated the lease, the landlord has violated the lease.

 

[BlueJay28]

evictions, exactly my point
lol

If space were an issue, they are better off buying, than getting into a bad rental deal with an individual.

 

[SwimExpert]

So, tenants should have a right to not pay rent?

Yet again, you demonstrate that you are a fucking idiot.

 

[BlueJay28]

So, tenants should have a right to not pay rent?

Yet again, you demonstrate that you are a fucking idiot.

Yes a tenant should have the right not pay rent if the landlord isn't performing their end of the contract.

And Yes a tenant should have the right to stability, which they don't have when they are in a contract with an individual person who has biases, prejudices and preferences and political beliefs and opinions that are part of their personality and will dictate their actions and behaviors, and a personal schedule and strict policies...

And NOT a business team whose only job it is to engage in real estate deals and collect preset rents.

 

[SwimExpert]

So, tenants should have a right to not pay rent?

Yet again, you demonstrate that you are a fucking idiot.

Yes a tenant should have the right not pay rent if the landlord isn't performing their end of the contract.

And Yes a tenant should the right to stability, which they don't have when they are in a contract with an individual person who has biases, prejudices and preferences and political beliefs that are part of their personality and will dictate their actions and behaviors, and a personal schedule and strict policies...

And NOT a business team whose only job it is to engage in real estate deals and collect preset rents.

You're a fucking idiot and you don't know what you're talking about. Landlords have responsibilities. Failing to meet those responsibilities puts them in breach of the lease. Generally speaking, when a landlord violates the lease the tenant has the right either move out or withhold rent in the amount necessary to pay for the work to be done by a contractor, depending on the specific circumstances. That is the law. That is the law, regardless of whether the landlord is an individual or an apartment complex.

 

[BlueJay28]

So, tenants should have a right to not pay rent?

Yet again, you demonstrate that you are a fucking idiot.

Yes a tenant should have the right not pay rent if the landlord isn't performing their end of the contract.

And Yes a tenant should the right to stability, which they don't have when they are in a contract with an individual person who has biases, prejudices and preferences and political beliefs that are part of their personality and will dictate their actions and behaviors, and a personal schedule and strict policies...

And NOT a business team whose only job it is to engage in real estate deals and collect preset rents.

You're a fucking idiot and you don't know what you're talking about. Landlords have responsibilities. Failing to meet those responsibilities puts them in breach of the lease. Generally speaking, when a landlord violates the lease the tenant has the right either move out or withhold rent in the amount necessary to pay for the work to be done by a contractor, depending on the specific circumstances. That is the law. That is the law, regardless of whether the landlord is an individual or an apartment complex.

That may be what the law says.... but then murder is illegal too, and so is drugs, and so is selling alcohol in the 1930s.
lol

 

[Jarlaxle]

evictions, exactly my point
lol

If space were an issue, they are better off buying, than getting into a bad rental deal with an individual.

Except they're not. Offhand, I'm in a nice apartment (with garage) for not much more than my house cost me just in property taxes! Are you stoned?

 

[Mr. H.]

I've known both good and bad private and corporate landlords.
I have been and still am a private landlord and a damn good one.

I've only ever had three rules: 1) pay the rent on time 2) take care of the property 3) respect your neighbors.

Tenants have fucked me over, but I've never fucked over a tenant.

 

[waltky]

Landlords should be able to vet their renters...

DOJ Warns Landlords About Conducting Criminal Background Checks on Would-Be Renters
October 19, 2016 | As President Obama commutes the sentences of more and more prisoners, his Justice Department intends to make it harder for landlords to deny affordable housing to ex-convicts.

The Justice Department announced on Tuesday that it is involving itself in a legal case in New York brought by a group that helps "formerly incarcerated individuals" find housing. The group complained that a 917-unit complex in Far Rockaway, Queens (N.Y.) had a policy of refusing to rent to individuals with prior convictions for felonies or misdemeanors other than traffic offenses. The plaintiff argues that this policy has an unjustified disparate impact against prospective African-American and Hispanic tenants, in violation of the Fair Housing Act. Although the Fair Housing Act does not forbid housing providers from considering applicants’ criminal records, the DOJ says “categorical prohibitions that do not consider when the conviction occurred, what the underlying conduct entailed, or what the convicted person has done since then run a substantial risk of having a disparate impact based on race or national origin.”

In other words, if landlords have policies banning ex-convicts in general, they could be in trouble if too many of those ex-cons happen to be black or ethnic minorities. It's called "disparate impact." “This filing demonstrates the Justice Department’s steadfast commitment to removing discriminatory barriers that prevent formerly incarcerated individuals from restarting their lives,” said Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Vanita Gupta, head of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division. “Women and men who served their time and paid their debt to society need a place to live, yet unlawful housing policies can too often prevent successful reentry to their communities. While not all criminal records policies adopted by landlords violate the Fair Housing Act, we will take action when they do."

U.S. Attorney Robert L. Capers of the Eastern District of New York said, "Landlords' categorical refusals to rent to individuals who have served their debts to society can illegally discriminate against those individuals based on their race or national origin." There is a growing need for affordable housing for ex-convicts as President Obama free so many of them. According to the White House, President Obama has commuted the sentences of 774 inmates, more than the previous 11 presidents combined. With a total of 590 commutations this year, President Obama has now commuted the sentences of more individuals in one year than in any other single year in our nation’s history.

The Justice Department says when a housing provider's background-check policy is found to have a disparate impact, the housing provider must “prove with evidence -- and not just by invoking generalized concerns about safety -- that the ban is necessary.” Even then, the policy will still violate the Fair Housing Act if there is a less discriminatory alternative. The Justice Department intends to "assist the court" in determining whether criminal background checks produce unlawful discriminatory effects.

DOJ Warns Landlords About Conducting Criminal Background Checks on Would-Be Renters

 

[fbj]

Landlords should be able to vet their renters...

DOJ Warns Landlords About Conducting Criminal Background Checks on Would-Be Renters
October 19, 2016 | As President Obama commutes the sentences of more and more prisoners, his Justice Department intends to make it harder for landlords to deny affordable housing to ex-convicts.

The Justice Department announced on Tuesday that it is involving itself in a legal case in New York brought by a group that helps "formerly incarcerated individuals" find housing. The group complained that a 917-unit complex in Far Rockaway, Queens (N.Y.) had a policy of refusing to rent to individuals with prior convictions for felonies or misdemeanors other than traffic offenses. The plaintiff argues that this policy has an unjustified disparate impact against prospective African-American and Hispanic tenants, in violation of the Fair Housing Act. Although the Fair Housing Act does not forbid housing providers from considering applicants’ criminal records, the DOJ says “categorical prohibitions that do not consider when the conviction occurred, what the underlying conduct entailed, or what the convicted person has done since then run a substantial risk of having a disparate impact based on race or national origin.”

In other words, if landlords have policies banning ex-convicts in general, they could be in trouble if too many of those ex-cons happen to be black or ethnic minorities. It's called "disparate impact." “This filing demonstrates the Justice Department’s steadfast commitment to removing discriminatory barriers that prevent formerly incarcerated individuals from restarting their lives,” said Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Vanita Gupta, head of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division. “Women and men who served their time and paid their debt to society need a place to live, yet unlawful housing policies can too often prevent successful reentry to their communities. While not all criminal records policies adopted by landlords violate the Fair Housing Act, we will take action when they do."

U.S. Attorney Robert L. Capers of the Eastern District of New York said, "Landlords' categorical refusals to rent to individuals who have served their debts to society can illegally discriminate against those individuals based on their race or national origin." There is a growing need for affordable housing for ex-convicts as President Obama free so many of them. According to the White House, President Obama has commuted the sentences of 774 inmates, more than the previous 11 presidents combined. With a total of 590 commutations this year, President Obama has now commuted the sentences of more individuals in one year than in any other single year in our nation’s history.

The Justice Department says when a housing provider's background-check policy is found to have a disparate impact, the housing provider must “prove with evidence -- and not just by invoking generalized concerns about safety -- that the ban is necessary.” Even then, the policy will still violate the Fair Housing Act if there is a less discriminatory alternative. The Justice Department intends to "assist the court" in determining whether criminal background checks produce unlawful discriminatory effects.

DOJ Warns Landlords About Conducting Criminal Background Checks on Would-Be Renters

Looks like doing the right thing in life is pointless. Drop out of school, commit crime, max out credit cards and u should be able to get an apt regardless if u have bad credit or been in jail.

 

[Moonglow]

Landlords should be able to vet their renters...

DOJ Warns Landlords About Conducting Criminal Background Checks on Would-Be Renters
October 19, 2016 | As President Obama commutes the sentences of more and more prisoners, his Justice Department intends to make it harder for landlords to deny affordable housing to ex-convicts.

The Justice Department announced on Tuesday that it is involving itself in a legal case in New York brought by a group that helps "formerly incarcerated individuals" find housing. The group complained that a 917-unit complex in Far Rockaway, Queens (N.Y.) had a policy of refusing to rent to individuals with prior convictions for felonies or misdemeanors other than traffic offenses. The plaintiff argues that this policy has an unjustified disparate impact against prospective African-American and Hispanic tenants, in violation of the Fair Housing Act. Although the Fair Housing Act does not forbid housing providers from considering applicants’ criminal records, the DOJ says “categorical prohibitions that do not consider when the conviction occurred, what the underlying conduct entailed, or what the convicted person has done since then run a substantial risk of having a disparate impact based on race or national origin.”

In other words, if landlords have policies banning ex-convicts in general, they could be in trouble if too many of those ex-cons happen to be black or ethnic minorities. It's called "disparate impact." “This filing demonstrates the Justice Department’s steadfast commitment to removing discriminatory barriers that prevent formerly incarcerated individuals from restarting their lives,” said Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Vanita Gupta, head of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division. “Women and men who served their time and paid their debt to society need a place to live, yet unlawful housing policies can too often prevent successful reentry to their communities. While not all criminal records policies adopted by landlords violate the Fair Housing Act, we will take action when they do."

U.S. Attorney Robert L. Capers of the Eastern District of New York said, "Landlords' categorical refusals to rent to individuals who have served their debts to society can illegally discriminate against those individuals based on their race or national origin." There is a growing need for affordable housing for ex-convicts as President Obama free so many of them. According to the White House, President Obama has commuted the sentences of 774 inmates, more than the previous 11 presidents combined. With a total of 590 commutations this year, President Obama has now commuted the sentences of more individuals in one year than in any other single year in our nation’s history.

The Justice Department says when a housing provider's background-check policy is found to have a disparate impact, the housing provider must “prove with evidence -- and not just by invoking generalized concerns about safety -- that the ban is necessary.” Even then, the policy will still violate the Fair Housing Act if there is a less discriminatory alternative. The Justice Department intends to "assist the court" in determining whether criminal background checks produce unlawful discriminatory effects.

DOJ Warns Landlords About Conducting Criminal Background Checks on Would-Be Renters

Looks like doing the right thing in life is pointless. Drop out of school, commit crime, max out credit cards and u should be able to get an apt regardless if u have bad credit or been in jail.

One should not be punished for life...

 

[fbj]

Landlords should be able to vet their renters...

DOJ Warns Landlords About Conducting Criminal Background Checks on Would-Be Renters
October 19, 2016 | As President Obama commutes the sentences of more and more prisoners, his Justice Department intends to make it harder for landlords to deny affordable housing to ex-convicts.

The Justice Department announced on Tuesday that it is involving itself in a legal case in New York brought by a group that helps "formerly incarcerated individuals" find housing. The group complained that a 917-unit complex in Far Rockaway, Queens (N.Y.) had a policy of refusing to rent to individuals with prior convictions for felonies or misdemeanors other than traffic offenses. The plaintiff argues that this policy has an unjustified disparate impact against prospective African-American and Hispanic tenants, in violation of the Fair Housing Act. Although the Fair Housing Act does not forbid housing providers from considering applicants’ criminal records, the DOJ says “categorical prohibitions that do not consider when the conviction occurred, what the underlying conduct entailed, or what the convicted person has done since then run a substantial risk of having a disparate impact based on race or national origin.”

In other words, if landlords have policies banning ex-convicts in general, they could be in trouble if too many of those ex-cons happen to be black or ethnic minorities. It's called "disparate impact." “This filing demonstrates the Justice Department’s steadfast commitment to removing discriminatory barriers that prevent formerly incarcerated individuals from restarting their lives,” said Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Vanita Gupta, head of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division. “Women and men who served their time and paid their debt to society need a place to live, yet unlawful housing policies can too often prevent successful reentry to their communities. While not all criminal records policies adopted by landlords violate the Fair Housing Act, we will take action when they do."

U.S. Attorney Robert L. Capers of the Eastern District of New York said, "Landlords' categorical refusals to rent to individuals who have served their debts to society can illegally discriminate against those individuals based on their race or national origin." There is a growing need for affordable housing for ex-convicts as President Obama free so many of them. According to the White House, President Obama has commuted the sentences of 774 inmates, more than the previous 11 presidents combined. With a total of 590 commutations this year, President Obama has now commuted the sentences of more individuals in one year than in any other single year in our nation’s history.

The Justice Department says when a housing provider's background-check policy is found to have a disparate impact, the housing provider must “prove with evidence -- and not just by invoking generalized concerns about safety -- that the ban is necessary.” Even then, the policy will still violate the Fair Housing Act if there is a less discriminatory alternative. The Justice Department intends to "assist the court" in determining whether criminal background checks produce unlawful discriminatory effects.

DOJ Warns Landlords About Conducting Criminal Background Checks on Would-Be Renters

Looks like doing the right thing in life is pointless. Drop out of school, commit crime, max out credit cards and u should be able to get an apt regardless if u have bad credit or been in jail.

One should not be punished for life...

I don't want to live around riff raff. If I am going to do that I should have just stayed in the ghetto

 

[Moonglow]

Even Jesus was a criminal..

 

[fbj]

Even Jesus was a criminal..

I don't want to live around trash

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Landlords should be able to vet their renters...

DOJ Warns Landlords About Conducting Criminal Background Checks on Would-Be Renters
October 19, 2016 | As President Obama commutes the sentences of more and more prisoners, his Justice Department intends to make it harder for landlords to deny affordable housing to ex-convicts.

The Justice Department announced on Tuesday that it is involving itself in a legal case in New York brought by a group that helps "formerly incarcerated individuals" find housing. The group complained that a 917-unit complex in Far Rockaway, Queens (N.Y.) had a policy of refusing to rent to individuals with prior convictions for felonies or misdemeanors other than traffic offenses. The plaintiff argues that this policy has an unjustified disparate impact against prospective African-American and Hispanic tenants, in violation of the Fair Housing Act. Although the Fair Housing Act does not forbid housing providers from considering applicants’ criminal records, the DOJ says “categorical prohibitions that do not consider when the conviction occurred, what the underlying conduct entailed, or what the convicted person has done since then run a substantial risk of having a disparate impact based on race or national origin.”

In other words, if landlords have policies banning ex-convicts in general, they could be in trouble if too many of those ex-cons happen to be black or ethnic minorities. It's called "disparate impact." “This filing demonstrates the Justice Department’s steadfast commitment to removing discriminatory barriers that prevent formerly incarcerated individuals from restarting their lives,” said Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Vanita Gupta, head of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division. “Women and men who served their time and paid their debt to society need a place to live, yet unlawful housing policies can too often prevent successful reentry to their communities. While not all criminal records policies adopted by landlords violate the Fair Housing Act, we will take action when they do."

U.S. Attorney Robert L. Capers of the Eastern District of New York said, "Landlords' categorical refusals to rent to individuals who have served their debts to society can illegally discriminate against those individuals based on their race or national origin." There is a growing need for affordable housing for ex-convicts as President Obama free so many of them. According to the White House, President Obama has commuted the sentences of 774 inmates, more than the previous 11 presidents combined. With a total of 590 commutations this year, President Obama has now commuted the sentences of more individuals in one year than in any other single year in our nation’s history.

The Justice Department says when a housing provider's background-check policy is found to have a disparate impact, the housing provider must “prove with evidence -- and not just by invoking generalized concerns about safety -- that the ban is necessary.” Even then, the policy will still violate the Fair Housing Act if there is a less discriminatory alternative. The Justice Department intends to "assist the court" in determining whether criminal background checks produce unlawful discriminatory effects.

DOJ Warns Landlords About Conducting Criminal Background Checks on Would-Be Renters

Looks like doing the right thing in life is pointless. Drop out of school, commit crime, max out credit cards and u should be able to get an apt regardless if u have bad credit or been in jail.

One should not be punished for life...

Nonsense. There are many things people can do for which they deserve to be punished for life.