Lacking biolabs, trailers carried case for war-

[CSM]

Again - showed where your president made the exact statement and yet got no response. Odd that.

Some of us work for a living...got a link to that "quote"?

 

[KarlMarx]

Here we go again....

I'd be very careful if I were a Lefty right now. A lot of documents are now being declassified and all the claims of "no evidence of... " are going to come back to bite you.

1. Those trailers in question could have been used as bio-weapons labs. The investigating committee gave the Iraqis the benefit of the doubt

2. Those two trailers were not the only two bio-weapons labs found. Another was found in a mosque containing equipment that belonged to an Iraqi scientist known for conducted research in bioweapons.

3. The coalition troops found a factory that manufactured biopesticides.... so? Here's the rub... farmers could not use the pesticides. Why? Because the pesiticide was milled to between 1 and 10 micron sized particles, making it useless for farminig applications but ideal for weaponized anthrax.

4. A chicken feed factory, which was surrounded by anti-air defenses. The chemicals used to manufacture chicken feed can also be used for chemical weapons.

5. Saddam Hussein was extraordinarily cagey, even Tariq Aziz, his right hand man after Saddam's sons was surprised to hear Saddam's son in law describe a covert WMD program during a meeting of the Iraqi high command. Saddam's generals were also told that a WMD program did exist, even when one may not have, because Saddam was fearful of an Israeli attack.

6. China and Russia were working on getting sanctions lifted against Iraq. In the meantime, Saddam was purchasing high grade aluminum tubes that had only one use .... uranium centrifuges. He also was preparing to resume his bioweapons programs once sanctions were lifted. According to documents just declassified, Saddam could have started manufactured of weaponized anthrax within a week of sanctions being lifted.

http://www.nationalreview.com/issue/lacey200603280727.asp

 

[CSM]

Here we go again....

I'd be very careful if I were a Lefty right now. A lot of documents are now being declassified and all the claims of "no evidence of... " are going to come back to bite you.

1. Those trailers in question could have been used as bio-weapons labs. The investigating committee gave the Iraqis the benefit of the doubt

2. Those two trailers were not the only two bio-weapons labs found. Another was found in a mosque containing equipment that belonged to an Iraqi scientist known for conducted research in bioweapons.

3. The coalition troops found a factory that manufactured biopesticides.... so? Here's the rub... farmers could not use the pesticides. Why? Because the pesiticide was milled to between 1 and 10 micron sized particles, making it useless for farminig applications but ideal for weaponized anthrax.

4. A chicken feed factory, which was surrounded by anti-air defenses. The chemicals used to manufacture chicken feed can also be used for chemical weapons.

5. Saddam Hussein was extraordinarily cagey, even Tariq Aziz, his right hand man after Saddam's sons was surprised to hear Saddam's son in law describe a covert WMD program during a meeting of the Iraqi high command. Saddam's generals were also told that a WMD program did exist, even when one may not have, because Saddam was fearful of an Israeli attack.

6. China and Russia were working on getting sanctions lifted against Iraq. In the meantime, Saddam was purchasing high grade aluminum tubes that had only one use .... uranium centrifuges. He also was preparing to resume his bioweapons programs once sanctions were lifted. According to documents just declassified, Saddam could have started manufactured of weaponized anthrax within a week of sanctions being lifted.

http://www.nationalreview.com/issue/lacey200603280727.asp

Dont waste your time and energy. It doesn't matter what facts you present from what sources as the trolls are here for kicks and not serious debate.

 

[Darwins Friend]

Some of us work for a living...got a link to that "quote"?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A60140-2003May30?language=printer

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0305/30/se.07.html

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3579.htm

 

[theHawk]

You must spread
some Reputation
around before giving
it to KarlMarx again.

 

[dilloduck]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A60140-2003May30?language=printer

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0305/30/se.07.html

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3579.htm

Rats--I guess we should cut and run.

 

[Darwins Friend]

Rats--I guess we should cut and run.

Or just admit GWB and your belief in what he said was wrong.

 

[dilloduck]

Or just admit GWB and your belief in what he said was wrong.

and then after breaking me to my knees with "truth" you go off to cure the rest of the world?

 

[Darwins Friend]

and then after breaking me to my knees with "truth" you go off to cure the rest of the world?

Was there ever any doubt? :

 

[dilloduck]

Was there ever any doubt? :

Na--I figured ya for someone who was more concerned about petty arguments than real solutions.

 

[Darwins Friend]

Na--I figured ya for someone who was more concerned about petty arguments than real solutions.

Well, it’s funny you should say that - did we just get too excited over all of this and just go off - militarily - without a real mission.

OBL had 53 days to just fade into the woodwork, while we dropped $450,000 ordnance on various locations throughout Iraq? Did we shoot our wad on the wrong mission?

 

[dilloduck]

Well, it’s funny you should say that - did we just get too excited over all of this and just go off - militarily - without a real mission.

OBL had 53 days to just fade into the woodwork, while we dropped $450,000 ordnance on various locations throughout Iraq? Did we shoot our wad on the wrong mission?

I think thats basically what some people think-----others think preemptive and even punitive strikes were the right action to take. Who cares ? We just sit back and watch the show anyway.

 

[Annie]

Yeah, MSM is alive, but not so well. Links, mostly to WaPo articles, at site:

http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/170778.php

April 13, 2006
Spin. Cut. Run.

To hear Editor & Publisher tell it, you would think that Washington Post reporter Joby Warrick was standing firmly behind his page A1 story from yesterday, where his opening paragraphs strongly asserted that the Bush Administration ignored the "unanimous findings" of a team of weapons experts to purposefully present the American people with false information.

The Post’s agenda-driven journalism was destroyed before the first copy of the print edition hit the street.

Warrick’s article was a perfect example of modern yellow journalism. He following an increasingly common technique of making a strong assertion in the lede (opening paragraphs)of a story, only providing any balancing coverage much further down in the story, while typically being dismissive of it or giving it little rhetorical weight (Jeff Goldstein provides and excellent look at the phenomena as applied to this story at Protein Wisdom).

Is Warrick really standing firm behind his article? Hardly.

Warricks’s new article, hiding on page A18, has backed away from the "unanimous findings" claim that was proven factually inaccurate in his scurrilous lede. A June 7, 2003 NY Times article found by Seixon found that far from presenting "unanimous findings," this third team of experts was "divided sharply" in their opinion of what the trailer represented. Warrick’s sources—all anonymous—seem to be contradicting each other, bringing into doubt their credibility.

In addition to the credibility of Warrick’s anonymous sources and the discrepanies about the report they issued, all mention of the two teams of military experts that thought that the trailers were mobile bio-weapon labs have been removed from the follow-up story. Unable to address the fact that their existence proves he was presenting a minority view (even one that turned out to be accurate), Warrick seems intent on deleting all references to these contradictory teams mentioned in earlier article. The "smoking gun" has turned out to be what Seixan noted as a "minority report about a minority report."

Is Joby Warrick standing by his story, or is he guilty of spinning, cutting, and running?

I report. You deride.

Update: Blue Crab Boulevard says, "What's 'unclear' here is if Mr. Warrick was aware that he was writing a hit piece or just that bad a writer."