KY Judge upholds freedom of religion

[The Rabbi]

This is not freedom of religion. Ordering T shirts isn't preventing one from practicing religion.

This is freedom to discriminate.

If you don't want to serve all the public make your store membership only.

They didnt have any problem serving the public. They had a problem printing T-shirts with messages that violated their conscience Didn you read the link?

You're right, the court ruled that it doesn't have to print a specific message on the T-shirts.

However, when the product being sold is the exact same (ie. Wedding Cakes, wedding photos, etc.) and you are denying those exact same products to a person based on their sexual orientation, you are discriminating. Period.

But it's not the exact same product when the message says, "Congratulations Bruce and Walter" or has 2 women perched on the top.
And that's it in a nut shell. If Bruce wants to but Walt a birthday cake that says Happy Birthday on top, the subject of homosexuality doesn't enter into the conversation. Once Bruce asks for 2 men in tuxes perched on top, the baker's religious convictions come into play.

A wedding cake itself is a 5 layered cake stacked up like a pyramid. They aren't putting messages on there and they don't have to be the one to put the figures on top of the cake. But the specific cake being baked is the same product.

EDIT: 3-5 layers is typical. Either way, if they sell a 3 layer wedding cake to the general public, they have to sell it to everyone without discrimination.

There is nothing required to be a wedding cake. There is no legal standard, or any standard.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Kentucky judge upholds Christian printer s refusal to print gay pride T-shirts - Yahoo News

Maybe it's just that sanity exists only below the Mason-Dixon line. I dunno.

Wrong.

Obviously you don't bother to read or comprehend the linked article.

Neither this case nor any other case concerning discrimination in public accommodations has anything to do with "religious freedom."

Just because you say so, doesn't mean its true. I guess you have to stick to screwing over bakers and photographers. What a social justice warrior you are.....

You can usually tell what is going on when the "Latrine Lawyer" rears his goofy head out from whatever rock he hides under to spout his leftist nonsense.

 

[RandallFlagg]

This is not freedom of religion. Ordering T shirts isn't preventing one from practicing religion.

This is freedom to discriminate.

If you don't want to serve all the public make your store membership only.

Got a better idea.... put up examples of your work. Every shirt that you print. The customer can choose from the available examples. Nothing more. Problem solved. Then, the gays can go hit someone else with their purses......

 

[JakeStarkey]

Marty is more libertarian than anything, Randall, and he would not put up with your crap in a heart beat.

This is not freedom of religion. Ordering T shirts isn't preventing one from practicing religion.

This is freedom to discriminate.

If you don't want to serve all the public make your store membership only.

Got a better idea.... put up examples of your work. Every shirt that you print. The customer can choose from the available examples. Nothing more. Problem solved. Then, the gays can go hit someone else with their purses......

. . . but if you have a wedding shirt, you got a problem.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Marty is more libertarian than anything, Randall, and he would not put up with your crap in a heart beat.

The police can get

This is not freedom of religion. Ordering T shirts isn't preventing one from practicing religion.

This is freedom to discriminate.

If you don't want to serve all the public make your store membership only.

Got a better idea.... put up examples of your work. Every shirt that you print. The customer can choose from the available examples. Nothing more. Problem solved. Then, the gays can go hit someone else with their purses......

. . . but if you have a wedding shirt, you got a problem.

So, the obvious answer is DON'T HAVE A WEDDING T-SHIRT!! Who the hell has a wedding t-shirt anyway!?!?! Hell, I grew up in Kentucky - those toothless bastards didn't have wedding "T-Shirts".

Do you folks have NO class!?!?!? Seriously, I could never imagine a "wedding T-shirt" with the possible exception of maybe Daytona Beach.....during bike week......geeezz

 

[JFK_USA]

This is not freedom of religion. Ordering T shirts isn't preventing one from practicing religion.

This is freedom to discriminate.

If you don't want to serve all the public make your store membership only.

They didnt have any problem serving the public. They had a problem printing T-shirts with messages that violated their conscience Didn you read the link?

You're right, the court ruled that it doesn't have to print a specific message on the T-shirts.

However, when the product being sold is the exact same (ie. Wedding Cakes, wedding photos, etc.) and you are denying those exact same products to a person based on their sexual orientation, you are discriminating. Period.

But it's not the exact same product when the message says, "Congratulations Bruce and Walter" or has 2 women perched on the top.
And that's it in a nut shell. If Bruce wants to but Walt a birthday cake that says Happy Birthday on top, the subject of homosexuality doesn't enter into the conversation. Once Bruce asks for 2 men in tuxes perched on top, the baker's religious convictions come into play.

A wedding cake itself is a 5 layered cake stacked up like a pyramid. They aren't putting messages on there and they don't have to be the one to put the figures on top of the cake. But the specific cake being baked is the same product.

EDIT: 3-5 layers is typical. Either way, if they sell a 3 layer wedding cake to the general public, they have to sell it to everyone without discrimination.

There is nothing required to be a wedding cake. There is no legal standard, or any standard.

Except for the standard the specific bakery sells.

If they sell a 3 layer wedding cake and they sell to the general public, they sell to the general public. Period.

 

[The Rabbi]

They didnt have any problem serving the public. They had a problem printing T-shirts with messages that violated their conscience Didn you read the link?

You're right, the court ruled that it doesn't have to print a specific message on the T-shirts.

However, when the product being sold is the exact same (ie. Wedding Cakes, wedding photos, etc.) and you are denying those exact same products to a person based on their sexual orientation, you are discriminating. Period.

But it's not the exact same product when the message says, "Congratulations Bruce and Walter" or has 2 women perched on the top.
And that's it in a nut shell. If Bruce wants to but Walt a birthday cake that says Happy Birthday on top, the subject of homosexuality doesn't enter into the conversation. Once Bruce asks for 2 men in tuxes perched on top, the baker's religious convictions come into play.

A wedding cake itself is a 5 layered cake stacked up like a pyramid. They aren't putting messages on there and they don't have to be the one to put the figures on top of the cake. But the specific cake being baked is the same product.

EDIT: 3-5 layers is typical. Either way, if they sell a 3 layer wedding cake to the general public, they have to sell it to everyone without discrimination.

There is nothing required to be a wedding cake. There is no legal standard, or any standard.

Except for the standard the specific bakery sells.

If they sell a 3 layer wedding cake and they sell to the general public, they sell to the general public. Period.

Except they dont. They start with a 3 tier cake and then add whatever options the customer wants. There's the problem.

 

[danielpalos]

The Rabbi and Jarlaxle are driven by a vision of America that has not existed in decades.

almost like true Judeans and and true Israelis, back in the good ole' days.