Kwanzaa is a hoax

[ScreamingEagle]

It's a contrived holiday by Ron N. Everett who later gave himself the name Maulana Karenga, and his followers. Ron invented the fake holiday back in 1966. Back then Ron Everett was a black nationalist and pretty nasty. He ran the organization called United Slaves (US) which he still heads today under the name The Organization Us or just US. He went to prison from 1971 to 1974 after he and some of his pals tortured two women with a soldering iron and a vise, among other things. Then of course he got a job at California State University Long Beach (CSULB) as the chairman of the Department of Black Studies. Only in California….it appears today he is still at CSULB promoting his fake Kwanzaa holiday and making money off it.

Karenga is still working at CSULB and is still running The Organization Us, and he and Us are still promoting his proprietary holiday, Kwanzaa. Prentice Hall is promoting it too, so The American Nation displays a picture of "an American family's celebration of Kwanzaa" -- but The American Nation doesn't tell anything about Karenga, about his rules for carrying out a "celebration of Kwanzaa," or about his make-believe Africanism. Let me supply some of the information that Prentice Hall has hidden:

Kwanzaa is supposed to be celebrated from 26 December through 1 January: It competes with Christmas and Chanukah while incorporating some echoes of both, e.g., gift-giving and a ceremony built around a seven-holed candle-holder that recalls Judaism's seven-branched menorah.

Karenga has concocted some bits of lore, lingo, and mumbo-jumbo that are intended to make Kwanzaa look like something out of Africa instead of something from Los Angeles County, but his efforts have been feeble. If you scan The Official Kwanzaa Web Site [see note 1, below], you'll read that the origins of Kwanzaa lie in "the first harvest celebrations of Africa," which allegedly "are recorded in African history as far back as ancient Egypt and Nubia" -- but there is no explanation of why any ancient Egyptians or Nubians might have held harvest festivals around the time of the winter solstice, and there is no identification of the crops that they harvested. Karenga's formula for celebrating Kwanzaa requires the use of two ears of maize -- but maize is a New World plant, and it wasn't known at all in ancient Africa.

True believers can purchase ears of maize and other Kwanzaa equipment (e.g., candles and seven-holed candle-holders and straw mats) from the University of Sankore Press, a company in Los Angeles. This outfit evidently is controlled by Us and serves as Us's marketing unit. It isn't a university press, and its name is a mockery. The so-called University of Sankore was an aggregation of Islamic schools that flourished at Timbuktu in the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries. No University of Sankore exists today.

In Karenga's Kwanzaa-lingo, ears of maize are called by the Swahili name "muhindi." In fact, all the objects that Karenga has worked into Kwanzaa have names taken from Swahili, which The Official Kwanzaa Web site describes as "a Pan-African language" and "the most widely spoken African language." The labeling of Swahili as a "Pan-African" language is rubbish. Swahili -- a Bantu tongue that includes many words absorbed from Arabic, from Persian and from certain Indian languages -- is spoken by some 50 million people (i.e., about 7% of Africa's population). Most of those Swahili-speakers are concentrated in eastern Africa, in a region that includes Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania and a strip of Zaire. The language which is used most widely in Africa is Arabic; and indeed, Swahili was originally written in Arabic script

Kwanzaa is a hoax -- a hoax built around fake history and pseudohistorical delusions. By attempting to dignify and promote Kwanzaa in The American Nation, Prentice Hall has joined in a flim-flam.

http://www.textbookleague.org/114kwanz.htm

 

[GotZoom]

I went to the Post Office today and saw advertisement for Hanukkah, Kwanzaa and Holiday Stamps.

I asked if they had any Christmas stamps. They showed me the Holiday stamps.

I asked why they were called Holiday stamps and not Christmas stamps.

The clerk said, "Sir, please don't do this. I agree with you..but please don't."

I didn't. I should have. But I didn't.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

It's a contrived holiday by Ron N. Everett who later gave himself the name Maulana Karenga, and his followers. Ron invented the fake holiday back in 1966. Back then Ron Everett was a black nationalist and pretty nasty. He ran the organization called United Slaves (US) which he still heads today under the name The Organization Us or just US. He went to prison from 1971 to 1974 after he and some of his pals tortured two women with a soldering iron and a vise, among other things. Then of course he got a job at California State University Long Beach (CSULB) as the chairman of the Department of Black Studies. Only in California….it appears today he is still at CSULB promoting his fake Kwanzaa holiday and making money off it.

And so you're suggesting what exactly? Do you want Kwanzaa banned?

 

[manu1959]

And so you're suggesting what exactly? Do you want Kwanzaa banned?

to it would seem that the idea that a holiday created of the hatred of whitey gets more respect in the US than Christmas is the point

 

[The ClayTaurus]

to it would seem that the idea that a holiday created of the hatred of whitey gets more respect in the US than Christmas is the point

Wait Kwanzaa promotes the hatred of whitey? I thought that was just the guy who created it?

 

[Mr. P]

I went to the Post Office today and saw advertisement for Hanukkah, Kwanzaa and Holiday Stamps.

I asked if they had any Christmas stamps. They showed me the Holiday stamps.

I asked why they were called Holiday stamps and not Christmas stamps.

The clerk said, "Sir, please don't do this. I agree with you..but please don't."

I didn't. I should have. But I didn't.

Nahhhh, I agree with the clerk. After all, what could he/she do about it?

Write a letter to W instead, I hear he's a Gawd fearin man. Must be his policy as well ya think? If not he can fit it.*Sarcasm off*

When I looked into this stamp thing a few weeks ago, I found NO Christmas stamps had been produced since 1999. I find that hard to believe, but that's what I remember reading. I think it was even on the USPS web site.

 

[dmp]

Funny - this isn't for Christmas...it's for "Holiday".

 

[Mr. P]

Funny - this isn't for Christmas...it's for "Holiday".

Yeah, that one I think I read would continue to be printed, but as a "Holiday" stamp. I think that's what I remember...Hell, I dunno.

 

[GotZoom]

I saw all of their "Holiday" stamps. None had the "C" word.

 

[BATMAN]

So if someone's black, do they automatically celebrate Kwanzaa? Do I say Merry Christmas or Happy Kwanzaa to a black guy? Will he think I'm being sarcastic if I do?

Maybe this is why some just say "Happy Holidays." I did say Merry Christmas to a black guy today, turned out he was a Jehovah's Witness. Of course, it wouldn't have made a difference in this case had I said Happy Holidays.


BTW, Dr Phil is signing off for the day, he said Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and Happy Hannukah. I guess he doesn't go for this Kwanzaa stuff.

 

[GotZoom]

Just say Happy ChristmaHanuKwanzaKa and you will have most of it covered.

 

[Avatar4321]

It's a contrived holiday by Ron N. Everett who later gave himself the name Maulana Karenga, and his followers. Ron invented the fake holiday back in 1966. Back then Ron Everett was a black nationalist and pretty nasty. He ran the organization called United Slaves (US) which he still heads today under the name The Organization Us or just US. He went to prison from 1971 to 1974 after he and some of his pals tortured two women with a soldering iron and a vise, among other things. Then of course he got a job at California State University Long Beach (CSULB) as the chairman of the Department of Black Studies. Only in California….it appears today he is still at CSULB promoting his fake Kwanzaa holiday and making money off it.

Forgive my rudeness, but:

You're powers of deduction are exceptional. I simply can't allow you to waste them here while there are so many crimes going unsolved at this very moment. Go! Go! For the good fo the city!

Sorry cant resist opportunities to use that line.

 

[manu1959]

Wait Kwanzaa promotes the hatred of whitey? I thought that was just the guy who created it?

i think you answered your own question

 

[The ClayTaurus]

i think you answered your own question

So, the meaning couldn't possibly evolve over time, then?

 

[manu1959]

So, the meaning couldn't possibly evolve over time, then?

anything is possible

 

[The ClayTaurus]

anything is possible

So, it might be possible for a holiday with a dubious origin to eventually shift into something more legitimate and not-racist?

 

[manu1959]

So, it might be possible for a holiday with a dubious origin to eventually shift into something more legitimate and not-racist?

i guess if you invented more shit to justify it sure ...... the same logic to legitimize kwanza is being used in reverse to sanitize the chritianty in christmas....like i said anything is possible

 

[Mr. P]

So, the meaning couldn't possibly evolve over time, then?

Shit, who cares? If ya can't pronounce it yer screwed anyway!

 

[007]

So, it might be possible for a holiday with a dubious origin to eventually shift into something more legitimate and not-racist?

Shit clay, do you ever stand for anything and just come out with a solid opinion? This devils advocate game you're playing sure makes you look like another fence sitter we have called mattskrammer.

Don't drag yourself down. Stand for SOMETHING. Make a statement instead of asking ALL these REDICULOUS questions that sound more like a inquisitive second grader.

You're trying to play people here. Are you AFRAID to say what YOU might think?

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Shit clay, do you ever stand for anything and just come out with a solid opinion? This devils advocate game you're playing sure makes you look like another fence sitter we have called mattskrammer.

Don't drag yourself down. Stand for SOMETHING. Make a statement instead of asking ALL these REDICULOUS questions that sound more like a inquisitive second grader.

You're trying to play people here. Are you AFRAID to say what YOU might think?

I'm not trying to play anyone; I'm inquiring about other's opinions. You see, I like to understand the way other people come to their conclusions. Now, I respect your desire to take a stand with every single post you make, but that's not what I'm here for. I'm not here to impart my view with every single post I make. I'm here to learn about other alternative views on things. Occasionally I'll post my opinion on things, but I'm most interested in what everyone else has to say, and then asking followups to try and understand their path of thinking. If this pissed you off, then just let me know, and I'll never ask another question about your opinion again.