Kwanzaa: A Fraud Holiday With A Racist Goal, Created By Criminal Madman

[Asclepias]

I still dont understand Xmas. Fat white guy flies in from the north pole bringing gifts. people put trees in their homes and decorate them with lights and other bullshit, Commercials constantly tugging at your walnut. All to celebrate the birth of someone that was born in the middle east but not on 25DEC?

It's quite easy to read up on the origins of Christmas and Santa Clause if you area actually interested.

Yule is the pagan (Nordic-Germanic) celebration of the Winter Solstice. Nordic people decorated their homes with evergreens and burn logs inscribed with runes for good fortune. Children put out their shoes filled with hay for Odin's eight-legged horse, Sleipnir.

As Christianity spread, it incorporated the myths and traditions of local pagans. Yule was fused with Christmas. Odin became Santa, and Sleipnir became eight reindeer.

Irrefutable Proof that Santa is Odin

So Xmas is a pagan holiday pretending to be a christian or religious holiday?

No, that is not what I said. I said that Christmas was fused with Yule as it spread throughout Nordic-Germanic Europe.

Yeah that is what you said. Maybe you didnt mean to say it but europe has jack shit to do with the birth of christ. All or most of Xmas is pagan worship.

It's the way Christians celebrate the birth of Christ, and have hundreds of years. That's a much more substantial tradition based on actual historical culture than your fake Communist Rapist Holiday.

I was very happy when the Kwanzaa House people sold their abode in my neighborhood. They certainly didn't show any respect for their neighbors with their loud several day long parties with music blasting until the wee hours. If they are accurate representatives of the Kwanzaa "faith", no wonder if is declining in popularity

I never said Christians havent used pagan rituals for hundreds of years to celebrate the birth of the christ on the wrong day. I just pointed out it is a pagan holiday like you admitted.

 

[boedicca]

It's quite easy to read up on the origins of Christmas and Santa Clause if you area actually interested.

Yule is the pagan (Nordic-Germanic) celebration of the Winter Solstice. Nordic people decorated their homes with evergreens and burn logs inscribed with runes for good fortune. Children put out their shoes filled with hay for Odin's eight-legged horse, Sleipnir.

As Christianity spread, it incorporated the myths and traditions of local pagans. Yule was fused with Christmas. Odin became Santa, and Sleipnir became eight reindeer.

Irrefutable Proof that Santa is Odin

So Xmas is a pagan holiday pretending to be a christian or religious holiday?

No, that is not what I said. I said that Christmas was fused with Yule as it spread throughout Nordic-Germanic Europe.

Yeah that is what you said. Maybe you didnt mean to say it but europe has jack shit to do with the birth of christ. All or most of Xmas is pagan worship.

It's the way Christians celebrate the birth of Christ, and have hundreds of years. That's a much more substantial tradition based on actual historical culture than your fake Communist Rapist Holiday.

I was very happy when the Kwanzaa House people sold their abode in my neighborhood. They certainly didn't show any respect for their neighbors with their loud several day long parties with music blasting until the wee hours. If they are accurate representatives of the Kwanzaa "faith", no wonder if is declining in popularity

I never said Christians havent used pagan rituals to celebrate the birth of the christ on the wrong day. I just pointed out it is a pagan holiday like you admitted.

It's also a Christian holiday.

 

[Asclepias]

So Xmas is a pagan holiday pretending to be a christian or religious holiday?

No, that is not what I said. I said that Christmas was fused with Yule as it spread throughout Nordic-Germanic Europe.

Yeah that is what you said. Maybe you didnt mean to say it but europe has jack shit to do with the birth of christ. All or most of Xmas is pagan worship.

It's the way Christians celebrate the birth of Christ, and have hundreds of years. That's a much more substantial tradition based on actual historical culture than your fake Communist Rapist Holiday.

I was very happy when the Kwanzaa House people sold their abode in my neighborhood. They certainly didn't show any respect for their neighbors with their loud several day long parties with music blasting until the wee hours. If they are accurate representatives of the Kwanzaa "faith", no wonder if is declining in popularity

I never said Christians havent used pagan rituals to celebrate the birth of the christ on the wrong day. I just pointed out it is a pagan holiday like you admitted.

It's also a Christian holiday.

Cant be. Christianity forbids false idols.

 

[boedicca]

No, that is not what I said. I said that Christmas was fused with Yule as it spread throughout Nordic-Germanic Europe.

Yeah that is what you said. Maybe you didnt mean to say it but europe has jack shit to do with the birth of christ. All or most of Xmas is pagan worship.

It's the way Christians celebrate the birth of Christ, and have hundreds of years. That's a much more substantial tradition based on actual historical culture than your fake Communist Rapist Holiday.

I was very happy when the Kwanzaa House people sold their abode in my neighborhood. They certainly didn't show any respect for their neighbors with their loud several day long parties with music blasting until the wee hours. If they are accurate representatives of the Kwanzaa "faith", no wonder if is declining in popularity

I never said Christians havent used pagan rituals to celebrate the birth of the christ on the wrong day. I just pointed out it is a pagan holiday like you admitted.

It's also a Christian holiday.

Cant be. Christianity forbids false idols.

Jesus is not a false idol. Santa is not worshipped as a god; he's a symbol of the spirit of Christmas.

But thanks for playing.

 

[rightwinger]

Kwanza is just as real as Christmas

 

[Asclepias]

Yeah that is what you said. Maybe you didnt mean to say it but europe has jack shit to do with the birth of christ. All or most of Xmas is pagan worship.

It's the way Christians celebrate the birth of Christ, and have hundreds of years. That's a much more substantial tradition based on actual historical culture than your fake Communist Rapist Holiday.

I was very happy when the Kwanzaa House people sold their abode in my neighborhood. They certainly didn't show any respect for their neighbors with their loud several day long parties with music blasting until the wee hours. If they are accurate representatives of the Kwanzaa "faith", no wonder if is declining in popularity

I never said Christians havent used pagan rituals to celebrate the birth of the christ on the wrong day. I just pointed out it is a pagan holiday like you admitted.

It's also a Christian holiday.

Cant be. Christianity forbids false idols.

Jesus is not a false idol. Santa is not worshipped as a god; he's a symbol of the spirit of Christmas.

But thanks for playing.

Santa is a false idol. How can he be the symbol of Jesus when Jesus wasnt a fat white dude from Switzerland?

 

[boedicca]

It's the way Christians celebrate the birth of Christ, and have hundreds of years. That's a much more substantial tradition based on actual historical culture than your fake Communist Rapist Holiday.

I was very happy when the Kwanzaa House people sold their abode in my neighborhood. They certainly didn't show any respect for their neighbors with their loud several day long parties with music blasting until the wee hours. If they are accurate representatives of the Kwanzaa "faith", no wonder if is declining in popularity

I never said Christians havent used pagan rituals to celebrate the birth of the christ on the wrong day. I just pointed out it is a pagan holiday like you admitted.

It's also a Christian holiday.

Cant be. Christianity forbids false idols.

Jesus is not a false idol. Santa is not worshipped as a god; he's a symbol of the spirit of Christmas.

But thanks for playing.

Santa is a false idol. How can he be the symbol of Jesus when Jesus wasnt a fat white dude from Switzerland?

I didn't say he was a symbol of Jesus. He is a symbol of the Christmas spirit of gift-giving and good cheer.

 

[Asclepias]

I never said Christians havent used pagan rituals to celebrate the birth of the christ on the wrong day. I just pointed out it is a pagan holiday like you admitted.

It's also a Christian holiday.

Cant be. Christianity forbids false idols.

Jesus is not a false idol. Santa is not worshipped as a god; he's a symbol of the spirit of Christmas.

But thanks for playing.

Santa is a false idol. How can he be the symbol of Jesus when Jesus wasnt a fat white dude from Switzerland?

I didn't say he was a symbol of Jesus. He is a symbol of the Christmas spirit of gift-giving and good cheer.

Christmas isnt about gift giving. Thats a pagan thing from the Saturnalia celebration. Its about the day Jesus was born. So yeah you did say Santa was the symbol of Jesus. Even if Xmas was about gift giving you have still have that little tricky thing you cant get past of false idols. No symbols are allowed. Show me in the bible where it says there is a Santa. I can show you where christians are discouraged from celebrating with trees and lights.

Bible Gateway passage: Jeremiah 10:2-4 - English Standard Version


Thus says the Lord: “Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move.

 

[bluedog1]

Oh boy, Posting this is going to ramp up the rhetoric and I’m going to be called all sorts of racist names for doing it.


One thing I’ve noticed this year; almost nothing on the boob tube about it nor in the news feeds.


Suddenly lost its popularity?

Those who are around my age woke up one December and discovered that the “holiday season” of Christmas and New Year’s became a trio, with the addition of something called Kwanzaa. Oh, sure there were rumblings of a new holiday. But strangely in this country where political correctness is on overload, a day invented in 1966 by a rapist who ran a Black separatist group is considered by some as a holiday on par with Christmas, or New Year’s. Kwanzaa is exclusively an American holiday and is not celebrated in any other part of the world (including Africa). The name Kwanzaa comes from a phrase of Swahili origin, “Matunda Ya Kwanza”, and translates as “First Fruits of the Harvest.” That’s right it’s supposed to be spelled with only one “a,” the very name of this supposed holiday is a typo.

Kwanzaa runs from December 26th-January 1st. It’s supposed to be a week-long holiday honoring African culture and traditions but is tainted by its founder and original purpose.

The man who created the holiday, Maulana Karenga, was convicted in 1971 of torturing two women who were members of US (United Slaves), a black nationalist cult he had founded. A May 14, 1971, article in the Los Angeles Times related the testimony of one of the women:

The testimony plus much more @ Kwanzaa: A Fraud Holiday With A Racist Goal, Created By Criminal Madman ⋆ Conservative Firing Line

A nonsense made up holiday without any tradition.

 

[boedicca]

It's also a Christian holiday.

Cant be. Christianity forbids false idols.

Jesus is not a false idol. Santa is not worshipped as a god; he's a symbol of the spirit of Christmas.

But thanks for playing.

Santa is a false idol. How can he be the symbol of Jesus when Jesus wasnt a fat white dude from Switzerland?

I didn't say he was a symbol of Jesus. He is a symbol of the Christmas spirit of gift-giving and good cheer.

Christmas isnt about gift giving. Thats a pagan thing from the Saturnalia celebration. Its about the day Jesus was born. So yeah you did say Santa was the symbol of Jesus. Even if Xmas was about gift giving you have still have that little tricky thing you cant get past of false idols. No symbols are allowed. Show me in the bible where it says there is a Santa. I can show you where christians are discouraged from celebrating with trees and lights.

Bible Gateway passage: Jeremiah 10:2-4 - English Standard Version


Thus says the Lord: “Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move.

No, I didn't say Santa is the symbol of Jesus. I said he was the symbol of the Christmas Spirit of gift-giving (generosity) and good cheer. You can try to spin it all you want, after more than a millennia, Christmas is a Christian holiday with pagan traditions/customs merged in to make it part of the the local culture. That's how cultures evolve, bub - unlike a fake Communist Rapist fabrication.

 

[Asclepias]

Oh boy, Posting this is going to ramp up the rhetoric and I’m going to be called all sorts of racist names for doing it.


One thing I’ve noticed this year; almost nothing on the boob tube about it nor in the news feeds.


Suddenly lost its popularity?

Those who are around my age woke up one December and discovered that the “holiday season” of Christmas and New Year’s became a trio, with the addition of something called Kwanzaa. Oh, sure there were rumblings of a new holiday. But strangely in this country where political correctness is on overload, a day invented in 1966 by a rapist who ran a Black separatist group is considered by some as a holiday on par with Christmas, or New Year’s. Kwanzaa is exclusively an American holiday and is not celebrated in any other part of the world (including Africa). The name Kwanzaa comes from a phrase of Swahili origin, “Matunda Ya Kwanza”, and translates as “First Fruits of the Harvest.” That’s right it’s supposed to be spelled with only one “a,” the very name of this supposed holiday is a typo.

Kwanzaa runs from December 26th-January 1st. It’s supposed to be a week-long holiday honoring African culture and traditions but is tainted by its founder and original purpose.

The man who created the holiday, Maulana Karenga, was convicted in 1971 of torturing two women who were members of US (United Slaves), a black nationalist cult he had founded. A May 14, 1971, article in the Los Angeles Times related the testimony of one of the women:

The testimony plus much more @ Kwanzaa: A Fraud Holiday With A Racist Goal, Created By Criminal Madman ⋆ Conservative Firing Line

A nonsense made up holiday without any tradition.

52 years of tradition and still going strong.

 

[bodecea]

Oh boy, Posting this is going to ramp up the rhetoric and I’m going to be called all sorts of racist names for doing it.


One thing I’ve noticed this year; almost nothing on the boob tube about it nor in the news feeds.


Suddenly lost its popularity?

Those who are around my age woke up one December and discovered that the “holiday season” of Christmas and New Year’s became a trio, with the addition of something called Kwanzaa. Oh, sure there were rumblings of a new holiday. But strangely in this country where political correctness is on overload, a day invented in 1966 by a rapist who ran a Black separatist group is considered by some as a holiday on par with Christmas, or New Year’s. Kwanzaa is exclusively an American holiday and is not celebrated in any other part of the world (including Africa). The name Kwanzaa comes from a phrase of Swahili origin, “Matunda Ya Kwanza”, and translates as “First Fruits of the Harvest.” That’s right it’s supposed to be spelled with only one “a,” the very name of this supposed holiday is a typo.

Kwanzaa runs from December 26th-January 1st. It’s supposed to be a week-long holiday honoring African culture and traditions but is tainted by its founder and original purpose.

The man who created the holiday, Maulana Karenga, was convicted in 1971 of torturing two women who were members of US (United Slaves), a black nationalist cult he had founded. A May 14, 1971, article in the Los Angeles Times related the testimony of one of the women:

The testimony plus much more @ Kwanzaa: A Fraud Holiday With A Racist Goal, Created By Criminal Madman ⋆ Conservative Firing Line

Sorry to hear that Kwanzaa is ruining your life.

 

[Meathead]

Oh boy, Posting this is going to ramp up the rhetoric and I’m going to be called all sorts of racist names for doing it.


One thing I’ve noticed this year; almost nothing on the boob tube about it nor in the news feeds.


Suddenly lost its popularity?

Those who are around my age woke up one December and discovered that the “holiday season” of Christmas and New Year’s became a trio, with the addition of something called Kwanzaa. Oh, sure there were rumblings of a new holiday. But strangely in this country where political correctness is on overload, a day invented in 1966 by a rapist who ran a Black separatist group is considered by some as a holiday on par with Christmas, or New Year’s. Kwanzaa is exclusively an American holiday and is not celebrated in any other part of the world (including Africa). The name Kwanzaa comes from a phrase of Swahili origin, “Matunda Ya Kwanza”, and translates as “First Fruits of the Harvest.” That’s right it’s supposed to be spelled with only one “a,” the very name of this supposed holiday is a typo.

Kwanzaa runs from December 26th-January 1st. It’s supposed to be a week-long holiday honoring African culture and traditions but is tainted by its founder and original purpose.

The man who created the holiday, Maulana Karenga, was convicted in 1971 of torturing two women who were members of US (United Slaves), a black nationalist cult he had founded. A May 14, 1971, article in the Los Angeles Times related the testimony of one of the women:

The testimony plus much more @ Kwanzaa: A Fraud Holiday With A Racist Goal, Created By Criminal Madman ⋆ Conservative Firing Line

A nonsense made up holiday without any tradition.

52 years of tradition and still going strong.

An honorable celebration of free stuff, I'm sure.

 

[Asclepias]

Cant be. Christianity forbids false idols.

Jesus is not a false idol. Santa is not worshipped as a god; he's a symbol of the spirit of Christmas.

But thanks for playing.

Santa is a false idol. How can he be the symbol of Jesus when Jesus wasnt a fat white dude from Switzerland?

I didn't say he was a symbol of Jesus. He is a symbol of the Christmas spirit of gift-giving and good cheer.

Christmas isnt about gift giving. Thats a pagan thing from the Saturnalia celebration. Its about the day Jesus was born. So yeah you did say Santa was the symbol of Jesus. Even if Xmas was about gift giving you have still have that little tricky thing you cant get past of false idols. No symbols are allowed. Show me in the bible where it says there is a Santa. I can show you where christians are discouraged from celebrating with trees and lights.

Bible Gateway passage: Jeremiah 10:2-4 - English Standard Version


Thus says the Lord: “Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move.

No, I didn't say Santa is the symbol of Jesus. I said he was the symbol of the Christmas Spirit of gift-giving (generosity) and good cheer. You can try to spin it all you want, after more than a millennia, Christmas is a Christian holiday with pagan traditions/customs merged in to make it part of the the local culture. That's how cultures evolve, bub - unlike a fake Communist Rapist fabrication.

Nope. Santa cant be the symbol of anything about christmas without making it a pagan holiday. Youre the only one spinning. The christian faith never mentions Santa Claus. If you can show me one place in the bible that says Santa was a Christian then you might have something but you cant so you dont.

 

[boedicca]

Jesus is not a false idol. Santa is not worshipped as a god; he's a symbol of the spirit of Christmas.

But thanks for playing.

Santa is a false idol. How can he be the symbol of Jesus when Jesus wasnt a fat white dude from Switzerland?

I didn't say he was a symbol of Jesus. He is a symbol of the Christmas spirit of gift-giving and good cheer.

Christmas isnt about gift giving. Thats a pagan thing from the Saturnalia celebration. Its about the day Jesus was born. So yeah you did say Santa was the symbol of Jesus. Even if Xmas was about gift giving you have still have that little tricky thing you cant get past of false idols. No symbols are allowed. Show me in the bible where it says there is a Santa. I can show you where christians are discouraged from celebrating with trees and lights.

Bible Gateway passage: Jeremiah 10:2-4 - English Standard Version


Thus says the Lord: “Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move.

No, I didn't say Santa is the symbol of Jesus. I said he was the symbol of the Christmas Spirit of gift-giving (generosity) and good cheer. You can try to spin it all you want, after more than a millennia, Christmas is a Christian holiday with pagan traditions/customs merged in to make it part of the the local culture. That's how cultures evolve, bub - unlike a fake Communist Rapist fabrication.

Nope. Santa cant be the symbol of anything about christmas without making it a pagan holiday. Youre the only one spinning. The christian faith never mentions Santa Claus. If you can show me one place in the bible that says Santa was a Christian then you might have something but you cant so you dont.

You're absolutely wrong, but you do get 10 Points For Consistency.

 

[Asclepias]

Santa is a false idol. How can he be the symbol of Jesus when Jesus wasnt a fat white dude from Switzerland?

I didn't say he was a symbol of Jesus. He is a symbol of the Christmas spirit of gift-giving and good cheer.

Christmas isnt about gift giving. Thats a pagan thing from the Saturnalia celebration. Its about the day Jesus was born. So yeah you did say Santa was the symbol of Jesus. Even if Xmas was about gift giving you have still have that little tricky thing you cant get past of false idols. No symbols are allowed. Show me in the bible where it says there is a Santa. I can show you where christians are discouraged from celebrating with trees and lights.

Bible Gateway passage: Jeremiah 10:2-4 - English Standard Version


Thus says the Lord: “Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move.

No, I didn't say Santa is the symbol of Jesus. I said he was the symbol of the Christmas Spirit of gift-giving (generosity) and good cheer. You can try to spin it all you want, after more than a millennia, Christmas is a Christian holiday with pagan traditions/customs merged in to make it part of the the local culture. That's how cultures evolve, bub - unlike a fake Communist Rapist fabrication.

Nope. Santa cant be the symbol of anything about christmas without making it a pagan holiday. Youre the only one spinning. The christian faith never mentions Santa Claus. If you can show me one place in the bible that says Santa was a Christian then you might have something but you cant so you dont.

You're absolutely wrong, but you do get 10 Points For Consistency.

Claiming I'm wrong doesnt past the test. All you have to do is show me where in the bible it says Santa was a christian and a symbol of any part of christmas. Stop stalling and show us or admit you were wrong.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Well, to be fair, all religious holidays are fake scams.

Pretty much what I was going to say. Wasn't every holiday at some point invented by someone somewhere?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Well, to be fair, all religious holidays are fake scams.

Pretty much what I was going to say. Wasn't every holiday at some point invented by someone somewhere?

Exactly.

 

[boedicca]

I didn't say he was a symbol of Jesus. He is a symbol of the Christmas spirit of gift-giving and good cheer.

Christmas isnt about gift giving. Thats a pagan thing from the Saturnalia celebration. Its about the day Jesus was born. So yeah you did say Santa was the symbol of Jesus. Even if Xmas was about gift giving you have still have that little tricky thing you cant get past of false idols. No symbols are allowed. Show me in the bible where it says there is a Santa. I can show you where christians are discouraged from celebrating with trees and lights.

Bible Gateway passage: Jeremiah 10:2-4 - English Standard Version


Thus says the Lord: “Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move.

No, I didn't say Santa is the symbol of Jesus. I said he was the symbol of the Christmas Spirit of gift-giving (generosity) and good cheer. You can try to spin it all you want, after more than a millennia, Christmas is a Christian holiday with pagan traditions/customs merged in to make it part of the the local culture. That's how cultures evolve, bub - unlike a fake Communist Rapist fabrication.

Nope. Santa cant be the symbol of anything about christmas without making it a pagan holiday. Youre the only one spinning. The christian faith never mentions Santa Claus. If you can show me one place in the bible that says Santa was a Christian then you might have something but you cant so you dont.

You're absolutely wrong, but you do get 10 Points For Consistency.

Claiming I'm wrong doesnt past the test. All you have to do is show me where in the bible it says Santa was a christian and a symbol of any part of christmas. Stop stalling and show us or admit you were wrong.

You are changing the goal posts.

I said that Christmas as practiced in North Europe merged local pagan traditions into Christian holidays. Santa is part of the Northern European Christian celebration of Christmas. It has nothing to do with the Bible - it is part of the way Northern European Christians celebrate Christmas. But as you are unwilling to learn anything, continuing to repeat the obvious is pointless.

So, go celebrate your Rapist Communist instead.

 

[Pilot1]

Isn't Kwanza the official religion of Prison? Or is that Islam? I forget.