Krugman: When everyone spends less or deleverages you have depression...

so you know nothing of Keynesian economics?

the above is Keynesian economics. If not why be so afraid to explain why not. What does your fear tell you?

Keynesian economics espouses that during fast growth of an economy policy makers should practice fiscal restraint to prevent large "bubbles".

too stupid you have tried to change the subject. you were to explain why the above was not Keynesian economics!!

Also, dummy liberal, everyone is against large bubbles!!!!!!!! OMG too stupid!!!!
 
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the above is Keynesian economics. If not why be so afraid to explain why not. What does your fear tell you?

Keynesian economics espouses that during fast growth of an economy policy makers should practice fiscal restraint to prevent large "bubbles".

too stupid you have tried to change the subject. you were to explain why the above was not Keynesian economics!!

Also, dummy liberal, everyone is against large bubbles!!!!!!!! OMG too stupid!!!!

change the subject? are you joking?
 
Keynesian economics espouses that during fast growth of an economy policy makers should practice fiscal restraint to prevent large "bubbles".

too stupid you have tried to change the subject. you were to explain why the above was not Keynesian economics!!

Also, dummy liberal, everyone is against large bubbles!!!!!!!! OMG too stupid!!!!

change the subject? are you joking?

Once again, liberal, here's the subject: "Everyone laughs knowing that artifical government spending will only create another artificial housing type bubble that eventually bursts causing even more need to deleverage and even more depression."

Explain why the above is mistaken or admit as a liberal you lack the IQ to do so!!
 
too stupid you have tried to change the subject. you were to explain why the above was not Keynesian economics!!

Also, dummy liberal, everyone is against large bubbles!!!!!!!! OMG too stupid!!!!

change the subject? are you joking?

Once again, liberal, here's the subject: "Everyone laughs knowing that artifical government spending will only create another artificial housing type bubble that eventually bursts causing even more need to deleverage and even more depression."

Explain why the above is mistaken or admit as a liberal you lack the IQ to do so!!

Your statement is too vague.
 
change the subject? are you joking?

Once again, liberal, here's the subject: "Everyone laughs knowing that artifical government spending will only create another artificial housing type bubble that eventually bursts causing even more need to deleverage and even more depression."

Explain why the above is mistaken or admit as a liberal you lack the IQ to do so!!

Your statement is too vague.

you mean for a liberal clown!!

please explain how on earth the government would be able to stimulate an economy! Conservatives believe this is 100% impossible.

simple enough for you???????????
 

according to liberals the government should spend when we don't to make up for our lack of spending.

Conservatives say this merely creates a bubble and then recession while liberals say it really stimulates the economy.
 

according to liberals the government should spend when we don't to make up for our lack of spending.

Conservatives say this merely creates a bubble and then recession while liberals say it really stimulates the economy.

Conservatives don't say that. Conservatives believe that government spending inhibits the market from clearing, and that it doesn't have a multiplier great than 1 and is thus a waste.
 

according to liberals the government should spend when we don't to make up for our lack of spending.

Conservatives say this merely creates a bubble and then recession while liberals say it really stimulates the economy.

Conservatives don't say that. Conservatives believe that government spending inhibits the market from clearing, and that it doesn't have a multiplier great than 1 and is thus a waste.

they don't??? In fact its exactly what Friedman and Hayek said.

the housing market for example is not clearing because of liberal red tape, not because of government spending

they say it has a multiplier of less than one because libturd bureaucrats don't spend as well as the people who actually earned the money.
 
Krugman is an idiot! - Famous Paul Krugman quotes from 2001 as he was begging the Fed to create the housing bubble.

- Die Zeit, Germany: (February 2001) - “During phases of weak growth there are always those who say that lower interest rates will not help. They overlook the fact that low interest rates act through several channels. For instance, more housing is built, which expands the building sector. You must ask the opposite question: why in the world shouldn’t you lower interest rates?”

- New York Times: (May 2, 2001) - "I’ve always favored the let-bygones-be-bygones view over the crime-and-punishment view. That is, I’ve always believed that a speculative bubble need not lead to a recession, as long as interest rates are cut quickly enough to stimulate alternative investments. But I had to face the fact that speculative bubbles usually are followed by recessions. My excuse has been that this was because the policy makers moved too slowly — that central banks were typically too slow to cut interest rates in the face of a burst bubble, giving the downturn time to build up a lot of momentum. That was why I, like many others, was frustrated at the smallish cut at the last Federal Open Market Committee meeting: I was pretty sure that Alan Greenspan had the tools to prevent a disastrous recession, but worried that he might be getting behind the curve.

However, let’s give credit where credit is due: Mr. Greenspan has cut rates since then. And while some of us may have been urging him to move even faster, the Fed’s four interest-rate cuts since the slowdown became apparent represent an unusually aggressive response by historical standards. It’s still not clear that Mr. Greenspan has caught up with the curve — let’s have at least one more rate cut, please — but the interest-rate cuts do, cross your fingers, seem to be having an effect.

If we succeed in avoiding recession, this will mark a big win for let- bygones-be-bygones, and a big loss for crime-and-punishment. And that will be very good news not just for this business cycle, but for business cycles to come."

- CNN: (July 18, 2001) - “KRUGMAN: I think frankly it’s got to be — business investment is not going to be the driving force in this recovery. It has to come from things like housing, things that have not been (UNINTELLIGIBLE).

DOBBS: We see, Paul, housing at near record levels, we see automobile purchases near record levels. The consumer is still very much in this economy. Can he or she — or I should say he and she, can they bring back this economy?

KRUGMAN: Well, as far as the arithmetic goes, yes, it is possible. Will the Fed cut interest rates enough? Will long-term rates fall enough to get the consumer, get the housing sector there in time? We don’t know”

- CNN: (August 8th, 2001) - “KRUGMAN: I’m a little depressed. You know, inventories, probably that’s over, the inventory slump. But you look at the things that could drive a recovery, business investment, nothing happening. Housing, long-term rates haven’t fallen enough to produce a boom there. The trade balance is going to get worst before it gets better because the dollar is still very strong. It’s not a happy picture.”

- New York Times: (August 14, 2001) - “Consumers, who already have low savings and high debt, probably can’t contribute much. But housing, which is highly sensitive to interest rates, could help lead a recovery…. But there has been a peculiar disconnect between Fed policy and the financial variables that affect housing and trade. Housing demand depends on long-term rather than short-term interest rates — and though the Fed has cut short rates from 6.5 to 3.75 percent since the beginning of the year, the 10-year rate is slightly higher than it was on Jan. 1…. Sooner or later, of course, investors will realize that 2001 isn’t 1998. When they do, mortgage rates and the dollar will come way down, and the conditions for a recovery led by housing and exports will be in place.

- New York Times: (Sept. 14, 2001) - The broken-window fallacy by professor Paul Krugman after 9/11: "Ghastly as it may seem to say this, the terror attack — like the original day of infamy, which brought an end to the Great Depression — could do some economic good." He went on to note how rebuilding would stimulate the economy by business investment and job creation.

- New York Times: (October 7, 2001) - “Post-terror nerves aside, what mainly ails the U.S. economy is too much of a good thing. During the bubble years businesses overspent on capital equipment; the resulting overhang of excess capacity is a drag on investment, and hence a drag on the economy as a whole.

In time this overhang will be worked off. Meanwhile, economic policy should encourage other spending to offset the temporary slump in business investment. Low interest rates, which promote spending on housing and other durable goods, are the main answer. But it seems inevitable that there will also be a fiscal stimulus package”

- New York Times: (Dec 28, 2001) - "The good news about the U.S. economy is that it fell into recession, but it didn’t fall off a cliff. Most of the credit probably goes to the dogged optimism of American consumers, but the Fed’s dramatic interest rate cuts helped keep housing strong even as business investment plunged.”

Krugman had no way of knowing in 2001 of how irresponsible Bush administration and the Federal Reserve would be at the time when most respected economists were calling for fiscal restraint, especially when the Federal Reserve was so fast to slow down the economy under Clinton.

Too stupid! - The dot com craze really was a bubble. Greenspan was slow to raise rates on that also. That is how the dot com bubble grew so large even after Greenspan's "Irrational Exuberance Speech'. That dot com bubble & burst was so large that Krugman screamed for the creation of the housing bubble to offset the crash. When Bush & Republicans wanted to restrain the GSE's in 2005 it was Democrats wanted Fannie & Freddie to keep the sub-prime home-loan music playing so their poor voters could get houses they could not afford. The "Mark to Market" accounting rule forced on the banks & the GSE's contributed more to the "sub-prime housing bubble" than interest low interest rates of Bush & Greenspan. Democrats refused to correct these problems until Republicans were toast & Democrats won the election.
 
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according to liberals the government should spend when we don't to make up for our lack of spending.

Conservatives say this merely creates a bubble and then recession while liberals say it really stimulates the economy.

Conservatives don't say that. Conservatives believe that government spending inhibits the market from clearing, and that it doesn't have a multiplier great than 1 and is thus a waste.

This is the veiw of people who dont care about people.

This country exsists for people NOT for the markets
 
according to liberals the government should spend when we don't to make up for our lack of spending.

Conservatives say this merely creates a bubble and then recession while liberals say it really stimulates the economy.

Conservatives don't say that. Conservatives believe that government spending inhibits the market from clearing, and that it doesn't have a multiplier great than 1 and is thus a waste.

they don't??? In fact its exactly what Friedman and Hayek said.

Really, where? I've read both, and I don't recall either saying that. They may have said that excess monetary creation creates bubbles but I don't recall either saying that excess government spending does that. France and Sweden - whose economies are more than half government spending - would be characterized by constant bubbles. But they are not. In the United States, government spending as a percentage of GDP fell during the Tech Bubble, which had nothing to do with government spending. Even during the Housing Bubble, federal spending as a percentage of GDP didn't reach above the low 20%.
 
France and Sweden - whose economies are more than half government spending - would be characterized by constant bubbles.

a bubble is for example the housing bubble, i.e., where one segment is inflated to the point of bursting. If you have constant high taxation and constant high spending on, say, teachers then you don't get a bubble but rather just a constant drag on the economy which accounts for Europe's slow rates of growth.
 

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