Krugman Poll on Canadian Healthcare

[Jay Canuck]

Hey Gay Canuk,

When the Clintons tried to socialize Healthcare they claimed that there were "47 MM uninsured Americans" now Obama is claiming that there are 47MM people, including 12MM illegals who don't have access to health insurance

That means that since Clinton's failed attempt to nationalize health care 12MM Americans got health insurance"

I'm guessing Math must be your strong suit!

Gay rhymes with Jay.....damn you're good

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Ok ok here are some videos with some canadians giving their opinions in them...actually its a special from 20/20

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEXFUbSbg1I&feature=channel_page]YouTube - John Stossel - Sick in America - Part 1 (of 6)[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpsEAVbCkMM&feature=channel_page]YouTube - John Stossel - Sick in America - (2 of 6)[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=refrYKq9tZQ&feature=channel_page]YouTube - John Stossel - Sick in America - Part 3 (of 6)[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzhiG0dcwN8&feature=channel_page]YouTube - John Stossel - Sick in America - Part 4 (of 6)[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsp_Jh5EIT0&feature=channel_page]YouTube - John Stossel - Sick in America - Part 5 (of 6)[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_KCLm9cekU&feature=channel_page]YouTube - John Stossel - Sick in America - Part 6 (of 6)[/ame]

 

[Meister]

That's hilarious coming from a tard who no doubt voted for Dubya twice.
Most Canadians would argue that having healthcare for everyone is not fucked up that's why we voted for it.[/QUOTE]


Voted for it, then the private clinics are starting to grow in Canada because of it. You must like the long waits to get your healthcare. Must like the fact you can always come here for the cancer treatments in a timely manner. Not to mention the higher survival rates we have in America for cancer, and heart disease. Yup, you've convinced all of us that your the "tard"......

is that what the Canadians you know have been saying?

of course the last time I looked at the WHO ratings the U.S was in 37 place and Canada was 7 places ahead of you.....not quite #1 huh?

Only "tards" look at the WHO for their source.
You are a big EPIC FAIL on the private clinics growing in your socialized country, also, you didn't mention anything about survival rates in America for cancer, and heart disease.
Might want to bring your "A game" to this forum, because your not preaching to the choir.

 

[xsited1]

That's hilarious coming from a tard who no doubt voted for Dubya twice.
Most Canadians would argue that having healthcare for everyone is not fucked up that's why we voted for it.[/QUOTE]


Voted for it, then the private clinics are starting to grow in Canada because of it. You must like the long waits to get your healthcare. Must like the fact you can always come here for the cancer treatments in a timely manner. Not to mention the higher survival rates we have in America for cancer, and heart disease. Yup, you've convinced all of us that your the "tard"......

is that what the Canadians you know have been saying?

of course the last time I looked at the WHO ratings the U.S was in 37 place and Canada was 7 places ahead of you.....not quite #1 huh?

WHO ratings???

 

[Meister]

How many Americans don't have healthcare at all?
How many Americans are happy with the healthcare they have?

Among insured Americans, 82 percent rate their health coverage positively. Among insured people who've experienced a serious or chronic illness or injury in their family in the last year, an enormous 91 percent are satisfied with their care, and 86 percent are satisfied with their coverage.
ABCNEWS.com : U.S. Health Care Concerns Increase

“…when one digs deep enough, one finds that only 8 million folks can be classified as "chronically uninsured;" that's still a problem, of course, but a much more manageable one, and puts the lie to the canard that our system is irretrievably broken.”
InsureBlog: Vindicated!

“Once you whittle it down, you start to realize that the number of hard-core uninsured who are citizens is in fact fairly small — perhaps half the reported 47 million or less. (about 7.6%)”
IBDeditorials.com: Editorials, Political Cartoons, and Polls from Investor's Business Daily -- The '47 Million Uninsured' Myth


Enlightened?

no I'm not....and nobody else should be either when you are citing a poll conducted on less than 5000 people on a media call list like it's a real indicator of how all Americans feel....... ABC - they should stick to T.V shows like Full House

You want sources, you got them.....more than what your sorry ass has brought to this thread. You seem to act on emotion and no substance.

Quit embarrassing yourself. I know that's a tough one to do.

 

[Vast LWC]

Oh, that's right, you're left wing stalinist.

Yeah, I sure am a "left-wing" Stalinist. That's me alright. Right-wing-nut-job propagandist that you are, you fall back on meaningless insults when you're losing an argument.

I'm a veteran, volunteered for the US Army when I was 19. That means I put my life on the line to protect your right to make retarded accusations like this, and to protect our democratic system.

Meanwhile, I'm sure that, like most Neo-Cons, you're an armchair warrior that was all gung-ho about spending 3 Trillion dollars to "free" Iraqis from Saddam Hussein, but you don't want to pay one extra dollar to save the lives of your fellow Americans by making sure they have healthcare. God forbid you should help out a fellow American with your tax dollars, but when it comes to invading other countries for no reason, you're fine with that.

Of course you never paid for Iraq either, it was fought on borrowed dollars anyway, so why should you care, right?

 

[WillowTree]

Oh, that's right, you're left wing stalinist.

Yeah, I sure am a "left-wing" Stalinist. That's me alright. Right-wing-nut-job propagandist that you are, you fall back on meaningless insults when you're losing an argument.

I'm a veteran, volunteered for the US Army when I was 19. That means I put my life on the line to protect your right to make retarded accusations like this, and to protect our democratic system.

Meanwhile, I'm sure that, like most Neo-Cons, you're an armchair warrior that was all gung-ho about spending 3 Trillion dollars to "free" Iraqis from Saddam Hussein, but you don't want to pay one extra dollar to save the lives of your fellow Americans by making sure they have healthcare. God forbid you should help out a fellow American with your tax dollars, but when it comes to invading other countries for no reason, you're fine with that.

Of course you never paid for Iraq either, it was fought on borrowed dollars anyway, so why should you care, right?

When all else fails, pull out the "I served and you are dirt" card..

 

[Vast LWC]

You want sources, you got them

A link to an opinion piece does not count as a "source".

You might as well just be linking to another posters post.

 

[Vast LWC]

pull out the "I served and you are dirt" card

I was called a "Stalinist" and was told I know nothing about firearms.

It was directly relevant.

Besides, when all else fails for right-wingers, they pull out useless variations of McCarthy-era name-calling, like "Stalinist" for instance.

 

[Vast LWC]

Only "tards" look at the WHO for their source.

Of course, because everyone knows we should look to Ruuush Limbaugh for all our factual information instead, right?

 

[Jay Canuck]

I never said all Canadians love their healthcare if you search long enuf you will find a bad story but you could find that in any country and if we are a socialist country like most of the right-wing is trying to sell here then why would we offer private clinics + a system that covers all Canadians....looks like we have all our bases covered to me?

 

[Meister]

You want sources, you got them

A link to an opinion piece does not count as a "source".

You might as well just be linking to another posters post.

You might try reading the 3 articles...more than just an opinion

 

[WillowTree]

Only "tards" look at the WHO for their source.

Of course, because everyone knows we should look to Ruuush Limbaugh for all our factual information instead, right?

you shouldn't look at anything except your immediate surroundings.. the inside of yer rectum.

 

[WillowTree]

I never said all Canadians love their healthcare if you search long enuf you will find a bad story but you could find that in any country and if we are a socialist country like most of the right-wing is trying to sell here then why would we offer private clinics + a system that covers all Canadians....looks like we have all our bases covered to me?

yes,, it cover all canadians with what?? got a little high risk pregnancy doya?? well guess what??? we have a bed shortage.. we gotta ship yer ass to america,,, got cancer ms. member of parliament?? well guess what yer chances are better in america.. cry us a river canada..

 

[Vast LWC]

You might try reading the 3 articles...more than just an opinion

The first link, which I haven't argued, is a news report.

The second is a BLOG.

And the third is an editorial in a Business magazine.

 

[Vast LWC]

the inside of yer rectum.

Ahh, toilet humor, such a witty retort. Worthy of a true dittohead.

 

[Jay Canuck]

Among insured Americans, 82 percent rate their health coverage positively. Among insured people who've experienced a serious or chronic illness or injury in their family in the last year, an enormous 91 percent are satisfied with their care, and 86 percent are satisfied with their coverage.
ABCNEWS.com : U.S. Health Care Concerns Increase

“…when one digs deep enough, one finds that only 8 million folks can be classified as "chronically uninsured;" that's still a problem, of course, but a much more manageable one, and puts the lie to the canard that our system is irretrievably broken.”
InsureBlog: Vindicated!

“Once you whittle it down, you start to realize that the number of hard-core uninsured who are citizens is in fact fairly small — perhaps half the reported 47 million or less. (about 7.6%)”
IBDeditorials.com: Editorials, Political Cartoons, and Polls from Investor's Business Daily -- The '47 Million Uninsured' Myth


Enlightened?

no I'm not....and nobody else should be either when you are citing a poll conducted on less than 5000 people on a media call list like it's a real indicator of how all Americans feel....... ABC - they should stick to T.V shows like Full House

You want sources, you got them.....more than what your sorry ass has brought to this thread. You seem to act on emotion and no substance.

Quit embarrassing yourself. I know that's a tough one to do. [/QUOT

I see you didn't in anyway address my points but to add your silly little opinion to the mix either.

 

[Tech_Esq]

Oh, that's right, you're left wing stalinist.

Yeah, I sure am a "left-wing" Stalinist. That's me alright. Right-wing-nut-job propagandist that you are, you fall back on meaningless insults when you're losing an argument.

I'm a veteran, volunteered for the US Army when I was 19. That means I put my life on the line to protect your right to make retarded accusations like this, and to protect our democratic system.

Meanwhile, I'm sure that, like most Neo-Cons, you're an armchair warrior that was all gung-ho about spending 3 Trillion dollars to "free" Iraqis from Saddam Hussein, but you don't want to pay one extra dollar to save the lives of your fellow Americans by making sure they have healthcare. God forbid you should help out a fellow American with your tax dollars, but when it comes to invading other countries for no reason, you're fine with that.

Of course you never paid for Iraq either, it was fought on borrowed dollars anyway, so why should you care, right?

I got news for you shitbird. I joined at 17 and in the Infantry. You however, smell like a REMF. And my son was in Iraq also as an Infantryman in Mosul and is currently in Afghanistan. I'm a conservative not a neo-con although I doubt you understand the difference.

Just because you were in the military doesn't mean you aren't a stalinist. I noticed you capitalized the name -- prolly to pay the proper respect to your hero. We didn't spend 3 Trillion. We spent less than one. You can provide a link to prove your point though, if you think I'm wrong.

It isn't the money dumb ass, it's the control. Don't you get that yet?

 

[Tech_Esq]

pull out the "I served and you are dirt" card

I was called a "Stalinist" and was told I know nothing about firearms.

It was directly relevant.

Besides, when all else fails for right-wingers, they pull out useless variations of McCarthy-era name-calling, like "Stalinist" for instance.

I didn't say you knew nothing about firearms REMF. I said you assume all homocides were done by gunshot. Now stop being a moron.

 

[Tech_Esq]

I never said all Canadians love their healthcare if you search long enuf you will find a bad story but you could find that in any country and if we are a socialist country like most of the right-wing is trying to sell here then why would we offer private clinics + a system that covers all Canadians....looks like we have all our bases covered to me?

You don't. Your own government is going after them to shut them down. There are a few brave doctors in Canada willing to face down the government to make a point.