Krugman: America Is In Serious Trouble!

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Krugman: America Is In Serious Trouble


The nature of America’s troubles is easy to state. We’re in the aftermath of a severe financial crisis, which has led to mass job destruction. The only thing that’s keeping us from sliding into a second GreatDepression is deficit spending. And right now we need more of that deficit spending because millions of American lives are being blighted by high unemployment, and the government should be doing everything it can to bring unemployment down.

In the long run, however, even the U.S. government has to pay its way. And the long-run budget outlook was dire even before the recent surge in the deficit, mainly because of inexorably rising health care costs. Looking ahead, we’re going to have to find a way to run smaller, not larger, deficits.

How can this apparent conflict between short-run needs and long-run responsibilities be resolved? Intellectually, it’s not hard at all. We should combine actions that create jobs now with other actions that will reduce deficits later. And economic officials in the Obama administration understand that logic: for the past year they have been very clear that their vision involves combining fiscal stimulus to help the economy now with health care reform to help the budget later.

The sad truth, however, is that our political system doesn’t seem capable of doing what’s necessary.

On jobs, it’s now clear that the Obama stimulus wasn’t nearly big enough. No need now to resolve the question of whether the administration should or could have sought a bigger package early last year. Either way, the point is that the boost from the stimulus will start to fade out in around six months, yet we’re still facing years of massunemployment. The latest projections from the Congressional Budget Office say that the average unemployment rate next year will be only slightly lower than the current, disastrous, 10 percent.

Op-Ed Columnist - March of the Peacocks - NYTimes.com
 
We’re in the aftermath of a severe financial crisis, which has led to mass job destruction

No.
This is just the beginning.
Expect a mass exodus of those that have 'some" means and refugee status for the rest.
One problem.
Like IsNtReal, circa WW2, nobody will want aMurkinz.
 
How the fuck can the "boost" from the "stimulus" start to fade out when Obama hasn't even disbursed the bulk of it?
 
Krugman is essentially saying that the USA has spent it's way into an empire destroying debt, literally a mountain of debt, and the only way out of it is to SPEND MORE!!! WOO HOO!!!

:cuckoo::cuckoo:
 
How the fuck can the "boost" from the "stimulus" start to fade out when Obama hasn't even disbursed the bulk of it?

Unfortunately, you are paying too much attention to the news and because of that you are asking too many intelligent questions. That, unfortunately, is not considered proper etiquette for a political message board. I, for one, admire your question, but remember, I am a small minority here.
 
Krugman: America Is In Serious Trouble


The nature of America’s troubles is easy to state. We’re in the aftermath of a severe financial crisis, which has led to mass job destruction. The only thing that’s keeping us from sliding into a second GreatDepression is deficit spending. And right now we need more of that deficit spending because millions of American lives are being blighted by high unemployment, and the government should be doing everything it can to bring unemployment down.

In the long run, however, even the U.S. government has to pay its way. And the long-run budget outlook was dire even before the recent surge in the deficit, mainly because of inexorably rising health care costs. Looking ahead, we’re going to have to find a way to run smaller, not larger, deficits.

How can this apparent conflict between short-run needs and long-run responsibilities be resolved? Intellectually, it’s not hard at all. We should combine actions that create jobs now with other actions that will reduce deficits later. And economic officials in the Obama administration understand that logic: for the past year they have been very clear that their vision involves combining fiscal stimulus to help the economy now with health care reform to help the budget later.

The sad truth, however, is that our political system doesn’t seem capable of doing what’s necessary.

On jobs, it’s now clear that the Obama stimulus wasn’t nearly big enough. No need now to resolve the question of whether the administration should or could have sought a bigger package early last year. Either way, the point is that the boost from the stimulus will start to fade out in around six months, yet we’re still facing years of massunemployment. The latest projections from the Congressional Budget Office say that the average unemployment rate next year will be only slightly lower than the current, disastrous, 10 percent.

Op-Ed Columnist - March of the Peacocks - NYTimes.com
Oh jeez, here we go again!

Authoritarian meddling in economic matters only failed because we didn't tinker enough and put enough bureaucrats on the job!

In a truly just world, jackasses like Krugman wouldn't be able to get a job scrubbing toilets.
 
Krugman is essentially saying that the USA has spent it's way into an empire destroying debt, literally a mountain of debt, and the only way out of it is to SPEND MORE!!! WOO HOO!!!

:cuckoo::cuckoo:
One way out is to go protectionistic and create our own North American Economic Co-Prosperity Sphere or something that borders on same. As I have said for years, the only way we are going to create lasting jobs here on our continent is to take them from some other country on some other continent. I favor banning imports from Asia and starting up cheap labor factories in North America so our whole continent benefits from our Co-Improvement together. Economic improvement to the lands directly to the South of us will benefit us, too. Tie that to rational population control, and we can set up a "workers paradise" in our region of the world.

One thing I know for certain, we have to stop exporting jobs to Asia at the expense of the American worker. North America for North Americans. The rest of the world can go to hell and we can stop trying to be the policeman to the world. Very few people appreciate our efforts anyway. Hell, a strong percentage of Americans don't appreciate our efforts.

Let's stop doing stupid things that are not appreciated and let's start creating jobs. Puck Asia. Let them manufacture and sell to each other over there, too. The focus of hatred will turn to the Chinese then and people will forget that the United States was ever involved in that region. Let somebody else pay for peace between Israel and the Islamics. It is becoming too expensive for us. I would be willing to accept any and all Jewish refugees from Israel if the Arabs decided that all Jews had to go or die.

It is time that we get the hell out of regions that we do not need to be in and then concentrate on our country and the lands immediately near to us.
 
That's a terrible idea Neubarth. That would make our country much poorer. It would discourage specialization and make everything more expensive. Making everything more expensive is not beneficial to the economy.

Understanding comparative advantage.

Trade: Chapter 40-0: The Theory of Comparative Advantage - Overview

Making everything (mostly oil) more expensive caused the DOW to go to 14,100 +.
It is also the main reason our GDP recently rose.

Yes not a good thing, but beneficial to many and catastrophic to others.
 
Free trade is the root source of our current enomic plight.

The real estate crises is but one symptom of the disease.

But as with many diseases, it's the symptom that eventually kills the patient.
 
Free trade is the root source of our current enomic plight.

The real estate crises is but one symptom of the disease.

But as with many diseases, it's the symptom that eventually kills the patient.

The current method to combat this seems to remove the sypmtom but keep the cause.
 

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