Know Your Czars.

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    It seems, however, that a competing effect has dominated the situation since 1940. This is the reduced transparency of the atmosphere to incoming light as a result of urban air pollution (smoke, aerosols), agricultural air pollution (dust), and volcanic ash. This screening phenomenon is said to be responsible for the present world cooling trend—a total of about .2°C in the world mean surface temperature over the past quarter century. This number seems small until it is realized that a decrease of only 4°C would probably be sufficient to start another ice age. Moreover, other effects besides simple screening by air pollution threaten to move us in the same direction. In particular, a mere one percent increase in low cloud cover would decrease the surface temperature by .8°C. We may be in the process of providing just such a cloud increase, and more, by adding man-made condensation nuclei to the atmosphere in the form of jet exhausts and other suitable pollutants. A final push in the cooling direction comes from man-made changes in the direct reflectivity of the earth’s surface (albedo) through urbanization, deforestation, and the enlargement of deserts.

    The effects of a new ice age
    on agriculture and the supportability of large human populations scarcely need elaboration here. Even more dramatic results are possible, however; for instance, a sudden outward slumping in the Antarctic ice cap, induced by added weight, could generate a tidal wave of proportions unprecedented in recorded history.

    John Holdren Global Ecology: Readings Toward a Rational Strategy for Man

    John P. Holdren is advisor to President Barack Obama for Science and Technology, Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, and Co-Chair of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology (PCAST)[1]

    Holdren was previously the Teresa and John Heinz Professor of Environmental Policy at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University, director of the Science, Technology, and Public Policy Program at the School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, and Director of the Woods Hole Research Center
    John Holdren - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    One way to carry out this disapproval might be to insist that all illegitimate babies be put up for adoption- especially those born to minors, who generally are not capable of caring properly for a child alone. If a single mother really wished to keep her baby, she might be obliged to go through adoption proceedings and demonstrate her ability to support and care for it. Adoption proceedings probably should remain more difficult for single people than for married couples, in recognition of the relative difficulty of raising children alone. It would even be possible to require pregnant single women to marry or have abortions, perhaps as an alternative to placement or adoption, depending on the society. [emphasis mine]


    Evolution News & Views: In John Holdren's Own Words: the Inconvenient Truth About Population Control

    John Holdren, the president’s top science adviser, is playing a key role in shaping the Obama administration’s strategy to combat global warming. In an interview with Yale Environment 360, Holdren discusses the prospects for achieving key breakthroughs on climate change, both in Congress and at upcoming talks in Copenhagen.
    Obama’s Science Adviser Urges Leadership on Climate by Elizabeth Kolbert: Yale Environment 360


    While it may seem I am picking on this particular person, it does appear that when you have a history of advocating a "Global Ice Age" then "Global Warming" not to mention somewhat troubling statements on population control, it tends to call into question the kind of advice that the President is getting from these types of individuals.
     
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    Great reading. Any OTHER useless info you can share with us?
     
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    Thank you Va. , just a little advice here though, perhaps if you found the information useless or distateful ,next time don't read it. It doesn't change the fact that the person offering advice on energy policy to the President has advocated different positions on Climate Change as well population control. If you like I'd be happy to provide you with information on all the Presidents Advisors and of course your within your rights to call them useless even if they happen to contradict themselves.
     
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    I did not intend to offend you as the poster. I intended to offend the information itself as you posted it without giving any reason FOR posting it. Time out, maybe I was trying to offend the poster?:eek:
     
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    *laughs* well Va. your posting in no way offended me, would take a lot more than that. I was suggesting though that if you found the information useless though, perhaps it would be a better use of your time not to read it. I posted it , to stimulate debate on the qualifications of the various people that are offering advice to the President that have an impact on policy. I had hoped that by reading the qualifications of this particular individual that it would call into question or perhaps at least stimulate debate on the qualification issue. Again, as I did not write the book that the Presidents Advisor on Climate Change , it may be the author of the book that is offended by calling him uselss. As for calling my posting useless I will say it again, rather than being offended I simply say as I always do to those that don't care for them, you have the choice not to read them.
     
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    Fair enough. Good luck with this thread. If I were a betting man, it is only a SHORT matter of time before someone comes in here to label this person and/or Obama a Socialist, Communist or a Marxist. I guess we should consider ourselves lucky that for the most part, they have stopped labeling Obama a terrorist. How is that for stimulating debate?
     
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    Good news!!! We don't have to label Obama as a socialist, communist or a marxist. His actions speak for all of us.

    As for the "useless information" that Navy provided...bravo. It's only useless to those who don't want or need to know what is really happening with this administration. I must wholeheartedly agree with Navy here, if you don't care who these people are, then why bother reading it and commenting on it in the first place? I don't believe for a second that you weren't intending to offend the poster.

    Here's some more "useful" info for those that do care...

    Obama's Czars
     
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    Wow. I am shocked. It took MUCH longer for him to show up than I anticipated.
     
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    Who showed up? Your shrink?
     
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    Nah. Just some anti-American asshat who thinks our President is a Communist or Socialist or Marxist. No worries. Nothing to see here.
     

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