Know Your Anti-Immigrant

[Correll]

I don't know what you think you are demonstrating up there, other than a lack of concern for your fellow Americans.


We have been flooding the AMERICAN labor market with foreigners for decades, generations even. Excuse me, I meant to say, FUCKING FOREIGNERS.


For generations, working class Americans have been paying a heavy price for that, in reduced wages and opportunities.


I'm glad that you have managed to get good help cheap.


But now, it is the turn on the working class to get some attention to their interests. It has been ONE year that we are finally seeing some movement on wages, after generations of stagnation.


Check back with me in 50 years, and I will be open to letting you, as a employer, having your next turn.

IF this were about wages, which you claim are going up without a wall, you've basically acknowledged the substantive part of my argument. So, mission accomplished.

Massive dishonesty there. That we have managed to tighten up the labor market some, without a wall, does not mean that a wall would not help to do so more or maintain gains made.

What you fail to see in all your know it all arrogance when you have admitted you have never studied immigration law nor history is that the demigod you follow inherited his money. He didn't earn it.

He inherited a large amount and grew it. No mean feat. I've seen people inherit and fail to even maintain.


Your silly game of conflating political support with worship, is a sign that you know your argument is weak and needs bolstered by silly games.

He was never a Republican, and he's telling you what you want to hear while he sets you up for the ultimate defeat. MOST of his shit gets defeated in court and the parts where government imposes on your Rights and mine are what is left on the books.

This point would be more credible, if you didn't play games like calling Trump, " demigod".


I deleted a lot of filler.

Politicians tell you what you want to hear and, like it or not, foreigners come here because they are profitable for big business.

No, foreigners come here because THEY can make money. They are allowed to come here because donors of both parties want the cheap labor, and the dems want the votes.


I don't know why you included the bit about "politicians telling you what you want to hear". Why not fill your posts with observations about water being wet, and ice being cold?

They pay taxes, outwork your sorry ass, complain less, and produce more. For that reason big business will continue to work them unless and until OUR culture changes.

Or until we use our political power to deport their asses and make big business hire Americans or shut down. FUCK THEM.

Americans will have to do what I do. You commit to one another. You do work for the poor and always pay it forward. You will be blessed because your fellow man will then look out for you. I'm not rich, but I have more security than any person on this board. Any American willing to forth the effort, work hard, and display a modicum of loyalty has no legitimate reason to be unemployed or worrying about non-existent "illegals." You watch your fellow American's back, he watches yours and there is no incentive for foreigners to come here.

None of the explains why we should let foreigners flood our labor market, or addresses the fact that doing so hurts the American workers.

1) Again you drone one and on and call me dishonest. You are the pot what calls the kettle black. You have demonstrated your abject stupidity by claiming that I lie and the only thing you put forth is a lie that has been factually REFUTED... making YOU THE DISHONEST ONE

Walls Don't Work

2) The only person playing games is YOU and nobody is reading your point by point criticism. I won't do it further; I'll simply move forward if you continue this kind of silly shit that NOBODY reads. You said you couldn't read long posts, so don't expect me to

3) Because you will not study the issues and you continue to knowingly lie about me and try to present me as being dishonest when the fact of the matter is that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground about this subject, you are stuck with a belief in the wall with no supporting evidence AND HISTORY TESTIFYING AGAINST YOU

4) You do not have the constitutional authority to force a business to hire any damn body. That's the point! You don't own the jobs. You didn't stay up at nights and work week-ends and holidays to create the job. You don't know the meaning of the word arrogance because you keep projecting.

Correll, you don't have what it takes to take from me. You've tried to steal from me at every opportunity; you've lied; you've misrepresented the facts; you've never created a damn thing but a little chaos on a discussion board. I worked hard for what I have. You don't have the balls to take it; government cannot, constitutionally, take it from me. So, while you're advocating illegal and unconstitutional actions, I can understand your apathy toward the Second Amendment and your fellow Americans

5) A substantial number of Americans disagree with your position. They willingly do business with foreigners. As time progresses, that majority is growing. I read an unverified figure that 70 percent of Americans were still "white." A good many of them are liberal. Every election cycle, people like you become less influential.

We started to do that massive deportation thing; the optics didn't work and Trump blinked (your dumb ass was sleeping on that one.) With so many of these foreigners having American families, it would appear your idiotic ass would wake up. Deportation on a massive scale won't happen. Separating families over a civil misdemeanor would be shot down in the federal courts as a violation of the 8th Amendment.

6) You aren't going to use force - you lack the foot soldiers among the citizenry to do it and it cannot be done due to that stumbling block called the Constitution. You can incentivize businesses to hire all American staffs, but you can't force them to do it. Laws are not stopping it and never have - never will. See the above link.

1. Walls work. That is why our houses have them.


2. Keeping outsiders OUT, is a function of government. Having an immigration policy or a policy of a tight labor market is not "Forcing" an employer to hire someone.


3. I am aware of the demographics. That the long term looks bad, is not a reason to just give up now.

4. You sure deportations have stopped? Can you support that?

1) Houses are not nations. Let us destroy your house theory yet again. How many times does this make?

If America is a "house" in your analogy, then each room in that house is a state. If each state pays its share of the rent (in this analogy that would be taxes) then who they invite into their room as guests and how they choose to maintain their room is none of your damn business

2) Show me in the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation or the Constitution where the function of government is to keep outsiders (sic) out

3) I have never advocated or ever thought about giving up. You just don't give a numerically superior number of enemies a reason to attack you. Trump failed to get his signature legislation passed in his first term and Obama got his passed in his first year. Quit being a dumb ass

4) I have never said that deportations stopped. Are you stupid or simply addicted to lying? Really dude, are you that desperate?

Mass deportations and separating families went over like a farting contest in Sunday school. Hell, Rip Van Winkle, where were you?

1. It is my business since they and/or their impact won't stay in those other rooms. Your claim that you have demolished my argument on this before, was self serving nonsense.


2. THe function of government keeping outsiders out, is part of the definition of government, not something specific to our government.


3. If you fear to even try to pursue government policies to serve our interests, for fear of provoking attack, then you are indeed, advocating for giving up. THat is what giving up IS.

4. Your words, old man. "We started to do that massive deportation thing; the optics didn't work and Trump blinked (your dumb ass was sleeping on that one.)...Deportation on a massive scale won't happen." So, support your claim that mass deportations are not happening.

 

[Correll]

I do not have to accept your larger picture. Saying that I do, is not an argument. It is nearly the opposite of an argument.

Donnie Chump is never going to build a freaking wall. So, you can pound sand. He's going to screw you like he screwed gun owners with his unconstitutional bump stock ban and then his announcement he is going to ban silencers... his constituency is getting their asses kicked incrementally and so have the wall worshipers.

Perhaps. What was I supposed to do? Vote for fucking Hillary and hope she build a Wall? LOL!!!!


It is one thing to disagree with me. TO ignore that I was choosing among limited choices, is not reasonable of you.


Have I done anything like that to you?

That post cannot be separated from the hundreds if not a thousand exchanges that have preceded it between you and I. Do we have to summarize where we've been?
......

And no where among them did I play a game where I ignored the context of your decision to slam you on the grounds of you not making the perfect, not available choice.


You have a few good points, but you consistently bury them under various types of bs.

You have slammed me with lies, misrepresentations, deflections, and putting words into my mouth, accusing me in nearly every exchange of saying things I absolutely did not say. Then you can't back it up.

No, I don't. I try very hard to seriously address what you actually say.


If you think I have done that, it is probably more a result of the way you ramble on, and make a lot of big leaps of logic, and/or are quite vague at times.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

I gather from the last few posts some criminal employer is whining about Trump doing something about criminal illegal aliens, as if we should feel their pain or something. If they're just so productive n stuff, just move your own ass down there and set up shop, scumbag.

If a man driving down the road makes an improper U Turn, do you from then on refer to him as an illegal driver?

If you want to gather anything from this conversation, why not read the thread? It would make the thread much shorter and keep us from having to make the same, repetitive answers. Furthermore, being a keyboard commando and calling people names when you're so stupid that you didn't read the thread only proves the point I made in post # 36. Feel free to refer to it. I think I have your number.

Just for shits and giggles:

Employers own the jobs they create. They are free, constitutionally, to give the job to whomever they choose as one of the great hallmarks of our Republic is the Right to own private property. The fact that government disagrees only shows that you are living under an illegal / unconstitutional / de facto government That is a concept the wallists have tried to undermine since they grabbed national headlines back in 2003.

I have a ministry and my work consists of helping disenfranchised Americans get a second chance; it is a second chance that the wallists denied many people in the wallists war against little brown people from south of the border. The wallists views on private property, due process, the Right to privacy, and WHO the Constitution protects run 180 degrees opposite of what the founders intended. Adding insult to injury, if you fit that category in post #36, you are probably a socialist in a MAGA hat OR more accurately a useful idiot as the communists called them.

Of course you have shit for a real argument, which is you're a whiney narcissist scumbag with no principles other than stuffing your own pockets and to hell with the costs to others when you no longer feel like paying your criminal illegals and dump them, as your ilk usually do. Your imaginary right to unlimited cheap labor isn't a real one, just one you dreamed up for yourself. You and your fellow labor racketeering types need to be deported right along with your criminal employees, and with nothing to boot, not even clothes. That way you can really show us all the 'self made' loon crap for real instead of just sniveling as if you did it all before.

I had a similar criticism leveled at me earlier. I'm modifying it to fit you since you are too stupid to read the thread:

IF this were about wages, which you claim are going up without a wall, you've basically acknowledged the substantive part of my argument. So, mission accomplished.

What you fail to see in all your know it all arrogance when you have admitted you have never studied immigration law nor history is that the demigod you follow inherited his money. He didn't earn it. He was never a Republican, and he's telling you what you want to hear while he sets you up for the ultimate defeat. MOST of his shit gets defeated in court and the parts where government imposes on your Rights and mine are what is left on the books.

He promised you a wall and then said Mexico would pay for it. Then he threatened to take it from the military and Socialist Security. Now he says he will charge tariffs... which will be passed on to you. And you get a bigger paycheck which is then offset by a rise in prices so the Mexicans will have the money to give you in the first place. His ONLY other alternative is to use ideas I put forth more than a decade ago.

You are a lying son of a bitch. THAT is one thing I'm proving. I pay my help far more than what I made (inflation figured into the equation) when I was in their position. I give chances to people your dumb asslocked out of the job market with that crap about National ID / REAL ID Act - E-Verify which disenfranchised an entire generation of your fellow Americans. The only fucking thing you've done with your life is post 100,000 plus posts on discussions boards and made some Internet buddies that wouldn't throw a cup of cold water on you if you were burning in Hell fire.

I've created opportunities and been of service to poor American peoplethat cannot afford the high wages you want for sitting on your ass arguing on the Internet and then thinking you're worth the big bucks for doing entry level work that a third worlder could do. I specialize in helping the poor to be able to afford a house, get a job opportunity that they otherwise would not get. Other than this popularity contest you're engaged in, what have you done?

Right now, at this moment, I have a 96 year old woman living in my house because she is almost blind and her relatives don't give a shit about her. I don't make a dime off it... fact is, it's costing me money. The irony is, she hates it here, but where she was staying would be closed by the county as uninhabitable if they went there. I have a couple of kids that got out of dysfunctional homes that depend on me to help get them get a job and one guy that is making 2 grand a week a few years after I helped him after his parents kicked him out of the house and he was living in a Jeep. The only thing you want to do is worship a fat ass rich white boy that hired undocumented workers before he ran for president, kept them on after his election, and will work them AFTER he leaves office. You know it and so do I.

This week IBM lays off a thousand people and your demigod is trying to give the Saudis contracts to build bombs for the United States:

U.S. 'smart' bombs will be built in Saudi Arabia under Trump arms deal

What I'm accomplishing here is to expose stupidity and it will remain as a record that what we said was known years before you were willing to admit that you had the choice put before you and failed to listen to sound counsel. As for the Mexicans and those south of the border, since it is people who think like you that do most of the mass shootings, I'd be much obliged if you'd point those assholes south of the border and help save a few American lives. Dylan Roof was one of yours. So, don't try to preach to me about how much you care about Americans.

Politicians tell you what you want to hear and, like it or not, foreigners come here because they are profitable for big business. They pay taxes, outwork your sorry ass, complain less, and produce more. For that reason big business will continue to work them unless and until OUR culture changes. Americans will have to do what I do. You commit to one another. You do work for the poor and always pay it forward. You will be blessed because your fellow man will then look out for you. I'm not rich, but I have more security than any person on this board. Any American willing to forth the effort, work hard, and display a modicum of loyalty has no legitimate reason to be unemployed or worrying about non-existent "illegals." You watch your fellow American's back, he watches yours and there is no incentive for foreigners to come here.

Some self-admitted criminal sociopath has written some screed, as if he had any credibility. lol what a pathetic gimp.

J.T. Ready was in that group who wrote the talking points for today's anti-immigrant faction I call the wallists. It is THE message of the Trumpeteers.

 

[Picaro]

I gather from the last few posts some criminal employer is whining about Trump doing something about criminal illegal aliens, as if we should feel their pain or something. If they're just so productive n stuff, just move your own ass down there and set up shop, scumbag.

If a man driving down the road makes an improper U Turn, do you from then on refer to him as an illegal driver?

If you want to gather anything from this conversation, why not read the thread? It would make the thread much shorter and keep us from having to make the same, repetitive answers. Furthermore, being a keyboard commando and calling people names when you're so stupid that you didn't read the thread only proves the point I made in post # 36. Feel free to refer to it. I think I have your number.

Just for shits and giggles:

Employers own the jobs they create. They are free, constitutionally, to give the job to whomever they choose as one of the great hallmarks of our Republic is the Right to own private property. The fact that government disagrees only shows that you are living under an illegal / unconstitutional / de facto government That is a concept the wallists have tried to undermine since they grabbed national headlines back in 2003.

I have a ministry and my work consists of helping disenfranchised Americans get a second chance; it is a second chance that the wallists denied many people in the wallists war against little brown people from south of the border. The wallists views on private property, due process, the Right to privacy, and WHO the Constitution protects run 180 degrees opposite of what the founders intended. Adding insult to injury, if you fit that category in post #36, you are probably a socialist in a MAGA hat OR more accurately a useful idiot as the communists called them.

Of course you have shit for a real argument, which is you're a whiney narcissist scumbag with no principles other than stuffing your own pockets and to hell with the costs to others when you no longer feel like paying your criminal illegals and dump them, as your ilk usually do. Your imaginary right to unlimited cheap labor isn't a real one, just one you dreamed up for yourself. You and your fellow labor racketeering types need to be deported right along with your criminal employees, and with nothing to boot, not even clothes. That way you can really show us all the 'self made' loon crap for real instead of just sniveling as if you did it all before.

I had a similar criticism leveled at me earlier. I'm modifying it to fit you since you are too stupid to read the thread:

IF this were about wages, which you claim are going up without a wall, you've basically acknowledged the substantive part of my argument. So, mission accomplished.

What you fail to see in all your know it all arrogance when you have admitted you have never studied immigration law nor history is that the demigod you follow inherited his money. He didn't earn it. He was never a Republican, and he's telling you what you want to hear while he sets you up for the ultimate defeat. MOST of his shit gets defeated in court and the parts where government imposes on your Rights and mine are what is left on the books.

He promised you a wall and then said Mexico would pay for it. Then he threatened to take it from the military and Socialist Security. Now he says he will charge tariffs... which will be passed on to you. And you get a bigger paycheck which is then offset by a rise in prices so the Mexicans will have the money to give you in the first place. His ONLY other alternative is to use ideas I put forth more than a decade ago.

You are a lying son of a bitch. THAT is one thing I'm proving. I pay my help far more than what I made (inflation figured into the equation) when I was in their position. I give chances to people your dumb asslocked out of the job market with that crap about National ID / REAL ID Act - E-Verify which disenfranchised an entire generation of your fellow Americans. The only fucking thing you've done with your life is post 100,000 plus posts on discussions boards and made some Internet buddies that wouldn't throw a cup of cold water on you if you were burning in Hell fire.

I've created opportunities and been of service to poor American peoplethat cannot afford the high wages you want for sitting on your ass arguing on the Internet and then thinking you're worth the big bucks for doing entry level work that a third worlder could do. I specialize in helping the poor to be able to afford a house, get a job opportunity that they otherwise would not get. Other than this popularity contest you're engaged in, what have you done?

Right now, at this moment, I have a 96 year old woman living in my house because she is almost blind and her relatives don't give a shit about her. I don't make a dime off it... fact is, it's costing me money. The irony is, she hates it here, but where she was staying would be closed by the county as uninhabitable if they went there. I have a couple of kids that got out of dysfunctional homes that depend on me to help get them get a job and one guy that is making 2 grand a week a few years after I helped him after his parents kicked him out of the house and he was living in a Jeep. The only thing you want to do is worship a fat ass rich white boy that hired undocumented workers before he ran for president, kept them on after his election, and will work them AFTER he leaves office. You know it and so do I.

This week IBM lays off a thousand people and your demigod is trying to give the Saudis contracts to build bombs for the United States:

U.S. 'smart' bombs will be built in Saudi Arabia under Trump arms deal

What I'm accomplishing here is to expose stupidity and it will remain as a record that what we said was known years before you were willing to admit that you had the choice put before you and failed to listen to sound counsel. As for the Mexicans and those south of the border, since it is people who think like you that do most of the mass shootings, I'd be much obliged if you'd point those assholes south of the border and help save a few American lives. Dylan Roof was one of yours. So, don't try to preach to me about how much you care about Americans.

Politicians tell you what you want to hear and, like it or not, foreigners come here because they are profitable for big business. They pay taxes, outwork your sorry ass, complain less, and produce more. For that reason big business will continue to work them unless and until OUR culture changes. Americans will have to do what I do. You commit to one another. You do work for the poor and always pay it forward. You will be blessed because your fellow man will then look out for you. I'm not rich, but I have more security than any person on this board. Any American willing to forth the effort, work hard, and display a modicum of loyalty has no legitimate reason to be unemployed or worrying about non-existent "illegals." You watch your fellow American's back, he watches yours and there is no incentive for foreigners to come here.

Some self-admitted criminal sociopath has written some screed, as if he had any credibility. lol what a pathetic gimp.

J.T. Ready was in that group who wrote the talking points for today's anti-immigrant faction I call the wallists. It is THE message of the Trumpeteers.

lol ... 'Wallist' .... 'Trumpeteer' ... you're one deranged loon. We know walls work, or else you gimps wouldn't be whining about them. All of your pols have them around their houses. They know they work, and like you they know they're lying.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

IF this were about wages, which you claim are going up without a wall, you've basically acknowledged the substantive part of my argument. So, mission accomplished.

Massive dishonesty there. That we have managed to tighten up the labor market some, without a wall, does not mean that a wall would not help to do so more or maintain gains made.

What you fail to see in all your know it all arrogance when you have admitted you have never studied immigration law nor history is that the demigod you follow inherited his money. He didn't earn it.

He inherited a large amount and grew it. No mean feat. I've seen people inherit and fail to even maintain.


Your silly game of conflating political support with worship, is a sign that you know your argument is weak and needs bolstered by silly games.

He was never a Republican, and he's telling you what you want to hear while he sets you up for the ultimate defeat. MOST of his shit gets defeated in court and the parts where government imposes on your Rights and mine are what is left on the books.

This point would be more credible, if you didn't play games like calling Trump, " demigod".


I deleted a lot of filler.

Politicians tell you what you want to hear and, like it or not, foreigners come here because they are profitable for big business.

No, foreigners come here because THEY can make money. They are allowed to come here because donors of both parties want the cheap labor, and the dems want the votes.


I don't know why you included the bit about "politicians telling you what you want to hear". Why not fill your posts with observations about water being wet, and ice being cold?

They pay taxes, outwork your sorry ass, complain less, and produce more. For that reason big business will continue to work them unless and until OUR culture changes.

Or until we use our political power to deport their asses and make big business hire Americans or shut down. FUCK THEM.

Americans will have to do what I do. You commit to one another. You do work for the poor and always pay it forward. You will be blessed because your fellow man will then look out for you. I'm not rich, but I have more security than any person on this board. Any American willing to forth the effort, work hard, and display a modicum of loyalty has no legitimate reason to be unemployed or worrying about non-existent "illegals." You watch your fellow American's back, he watches yours and there is no incentive for foreigners to come here.

None of the explains why we should let foreigners flood our labor market, or addresses the fact that doing so hurts the American workers.

1) Again you drone one and on and call me dishonest. You are the pot what calls the kettle black. You have demonstrated your abject stupidity by claiming that I lie and the only thing you put forth is a lie that has been factually REFUTED... making YOU THE DISHONEST ONE

Walls Don't Work

2) The only person playing games is YOU and nobody is reading your point by point criticism. I won't do it further; I'll simply move forward if you continue this kind of silly shit that NOBODY reads. You said you couldn't read long posts, so don't expect me to

3) Because you will not study the issues and you continue to knowingly lie about me and try to present me as being dishonest when the fact of the matter is that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground about this subject, you are stuck with a belief in the wall with no supporting evidence AND HISTORY TESTIFYING AGAINST YOU

4) You do not have the constitutional authority to force a business to hire any damn body. That's the point! You don't own the jobs. You didn't stay up at nights and work week-ends and holidays to create the job. You don't know the meaning of the word arrogance because you keep projecting.

Correll, you don't have what it takes to take from me. You've tried to steal from me at every opportunity; you've lied; you've misrepresented the facts; you've never created a damn thing but a little chaos on a discussion board. I worked hard for what I have. You don't have the balls to take it; government cannot, constitutionally, take it from me. So, while you're advocating illegal and unconstitutional actions, I can understand your apathy toward the Second Amendment and your fellow Americans

5) A substantial number of Americans disagree with your position. They willingly do business with foreigners. As time progresses, that majority is growing. I read an unverified figure that 70 percent of Americans were still "white." A good many of them are liberal. Every election cycle, people like you become less influential.

We started to do that massive deportation thing; the optics didn't work and Trump blinked (your dumb ass was sleeping on that one.) With so many of these foreigners having American families, it would appear your idiotic ass would wake up. Deportation on a massive scale won't happen. Separating families over a civil misdemeanor would be shot down in the federal courts as a violation of the 8th Amendment.

6) You aren't going to use force - you lack the foot soldiers among the citizenry to do it and it cannot be done due to that stumbling block called the Constitution. You can incentivize businesses to hire all American staffs, but you can't force them to do it. Laws are not stopping it and never have - never will. See the above link.

1. Walls work. That is why our houses have them.


2. Keeping outsiders OUT, is a function of government. Having an immigration policy or a policy of a tight labor market is not "Forcing" an employer to hire someone.


3. I am aware of the demographics. That the long term looks bad, is not a reason to just give up now.

4. You sure deportations have stopped? Can you support that?

1) Houses are not nations. Let us destroy your house theory yet again. How many times does this make?

If America is a "house" in your analogy, then each room in that house is a state. If each state pays its share of the rent (in this analogy that would be taxes) then who they invite into their room as guests and how they choose to maintain their room is none of your damn business

2) Show me in the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation or the Constitution where the function of government is to keep outsiders (sic) out

3) I have never advocated or ever thought about giving up. You just don't give a numerically superior number of enemies a reason to attack you. Trump failed to get his signature legislation passed in his first term and Obama got his passed in his first year. Quit being a dumb ass

4) I have never said that deportations stopped. Are you stupid or simply addicted to lying? Really dude, are you that desperate?

Mass deportations and separating families went over like a farting contest in Sunday school. Hell, Rip Van Winkle, where were you?

1. It is my business since they and/or their impact won't stay in those other rooms. Your claim that you have demolished my argument on this before, was self serving nonsense.


2. THe function of government keeping outsiders out, is part of the definition of government, not something specific to our government.


3. If you fear to even try to pursue government policies to serve our interests, for fear of provoking attack, then you are indeed, advocating for giving up. THat is what giving up IS.

4. Your words, old man. "We started to do that massive deportation thing; the optics didn't work and Trump blinked (your dumb ass was sleeping on that one.)...Deportation on a massive scale won't happen." So, support your claim that mass deportations are not happening.

1) Right now, if anything, you benefit off the cheap labor market (as you allege it is.) I have totally demolished your arguments and let me explain why.

When people like you, pismoe, and picaro (sp?) ignore questions and you think you are debating this stuff on boards, you make a critical mistake. In order to refute my arguments, you have to:

A) Know what the argument is
B) Offer a counter to that argument and a source. Your disbelief in what I'm saying is insufficient. To disbelieve does not disprove
C) Access and read the links I leave which you guys do not do. That's why your personal attacks are totally ridiculous and chickenshit stuff you would never, under any circumstances, say to my face
D) In formal debates, that which is not specifically denied is deemed admitted. Since you won't even read the material presented, you have by default admitted to the substantial part of my argument

2) Show me, the in Constitution, where it is the job of government to keep people out. Your opinion does not constitute fact

3) Your self definition of words has been proven false. If I prefer not to go one on one with an enemy where THEIR victory is assured is not a sign of defeat. What you advocate is stupidity. You attack a numerically superior enemy with political guerrilla warfare. You use their momentum against them. This was explained to you before

4) Trump considered mass deportation of migrant families, including in Chicago

 

[Picaro]

Massive dishonesty there. That we have managed to tighten up the labor market some, without a wall, does not mean that a wall would not help to do so more or maintain gains made.





He inherited a large amount and grew it. No mean feat. I've seen people inherit and fail to even maintain.


Your silly game of conflating political support with worship, is a sign that you know your argument is weak and needs bolstered by silly games.




This point would be more credible, if you didn't play games like calling Trump, " demigod".


I deleted a lot of filler.



No, foreigners come here because THEY can make money. They are allowed to come here because donors of both parties want the cheap labor, and the dems want the votes.


I don't know why you included the bit about "politicians telling you what you want to hear". Why not fill your posts with observations about water being wet, and ice being cold?


Or until we use our political power to deport their asses and make big business hire Americans or shut down. FUCK THEM.


None of the explains why we should let foreigners flood our labor market, or addresses the fact that doing so hurts the American workers.

1) Again you drone one and on and call me dishonest. You are the pot what calls the kettle black. You have demonstrated your abject stupidity by claiming that I lie and the only thing you put forth is a lie that has been factually REFUTED... making YOU THE DISHONEST ONE

Walls Don't Work

2) The only person playing games is YOU and nobody is reading your point by point criticism. I won't do it further; I'll simply move forward if you continue this kind of silly shit that NOBODY reads. You said you couldn't read long posts, so don't expect me to

3) Because you will not study the issues and you continue to knowingly lie about me and try to present me as being dishonest when the fact of the matter is that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground about this subject, you are stuck with a belief in the wall with no supporting evidence AND HISTORY TESTIFYING AGAINST YOU

4) You do not have the constitutional authority to force a business to hire any damn body. That's the point! You don't own the jobs. You didn't stay up at nights and work week-ends and holidays to create the job. You don't know the meaning of the word arrogance because you keep projecting.

Correll, you don't have what it takes to take from me. You've tried to steal from me at every opportunity; you've lied; you've misrepresented the facts; you've never created a damn thing but a little chaos on a discussion board. I worked hard for what I have. You don't have the balls to take it; government cannot, constitutionally, take it from me. So, while you're advocating illegal and unconstitutional actions, I can understand your apathy toward the Second Amendment and your fellow Americans

5) A substantial number of Americans disagree with your position. They willingly do business with foreigners. As time progresses, that majority is growing. I read an unverified figure that 70 percent of Americans were still "white." A good many of them are liberal. Every election cycle, people like you become less influential.

We started to do that massive deportation thing; the optics didn't work and Trump blinked (your dumb ass was sleeping on that one.) With so many of these foreigners having American families, it would appear your idiotic ass would wake up. Deportation on a massive scale won't happen. Separating families over a civil misdemeanor would be shot down in the federal courts as a violation of the 8th Amendment.

6) You aren't going to use force - you lack the foot soldiers among the citizenry to do it and it cannot be done due to that stumbling block called the Constitution. You can incentivize businesses to hire all American staffs, but you can't force them to do it. Laws are not stopping it and never have - never will. See the above link.

1. Walls work. That is why our houses have them.


2. Keeping outsiders OUT, is a function of government. Having an immigration policy or a policy of a tight labor market is not "Forcing" an employer to hire someone.


3. I am aware of the demographics. That the long term looks bad, is not a reason to just give up now.

4. You sure deportations have stopped? Can you support that?

1) Houses are not nations. Let us destroy your house theory yet again. How many times does this make?

If America is a "house" in your analogy, then each room in that house is a state. If each state pays its share of the rent (in this analogy that would be taxes) then who they invite into their room as guests and how they choose to maintain their room is none of your damn business

2) Show me in the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation or the Constitution where the function of government is to keep outsiders (sic) out

3) I have never advocated or ever thought about giving up. You just don't give a numerically superior number of enemies a reason to attack you. Trump failed to get his signature legislation passed in his first term and Obama got his passed in his first year. Quit being a dumb ass

4) I have never said that deportations stopped. Are you stupid or simply addicted to lying? Really dude, are you that desperate?

Mass deportations and separating families went over like a farting contest in Sunday school. Hell, Rip Van Winkle, where were you?

1. It is my business since they and/or their impact won't stay in those other rooms. Your claim that you have demolished my argument on this before, was self serving nonsense.


2. THe function of government keeping outsiders out, is part of the definition of government, not something specific to our government.


3. If you fear to even try to pursue government policies to serve our interests, for fear of provoking attack, then you are indeed, advocating for giving up. THat is what giving up IS.

4. Your words, old man. "We started to do that massive deportation thing; the optics didn't work and Trump blinked (your dumb ass was sleeping on that one.)...Deportation on a massive scale won't happen." So, support your claim that mass deportations are not happening.

1) Right now, if anything, you benefit off the cheap labor market (as you allege it is.) I have totally demolished your arguments and let me explain why.

When people like you, pismoe, and picaro (sp?) ignore questions and you think you are debating this stuff on boards, you make a critical mistake. In order to refute my arguments, you have to:

A) Know what the argument is
B) Offer a counter to that argument and a source. Your disbelief in what I'm saying is insufficient. To disbelieve does not disprove
C) Access and read the links I leave which you guys do not do. That's why your personal attacks are totally ridiculous and chickenshit stuff you would never, under any circumstances, say to my face
D) In formal debates, that which is not specifically denied is deemed admitted. Since you won't even read the material presented, you have by default admitted to the substantial part of my argument

2) Show me, the in Constitution, where it is the job of government to keep people out. Your opinion does not constitute fact

3) Your self definition of words has been proven false. If I prefer not to go one on one with an enemy where THEIR victory is assured is not a sign of defeat. What you advocate is stupidity. You attack a numerically superior enemy with political guerrilla warfare. You use their momentum against them. This was explained to you before

4) Trump considered mass deportation of migrant families, including in Chicago

You aren't debating squat, you have no facts, just your rationalizations for criminal acts. You can't help but lie and make up fantasy 'rights' for yourself.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Donnie Chump is never going to build a freaking wall. So, you can pound sand. He's going to screw you like he screwed gun owners with his unconstitutional bump stock ban and then his announcement he is going to ban silencers... his constituency is getting their asses kicked incrementally and so have the wall worshipers.

Perhaps. What was I supposed to do? Vote for fucking Hillary and hope she build a Wall? LOL!!!!


It is one thing to disagree with me. TO ignore that I was choosing among limited choices, is not reasonable of you.


Have I done anything like that to you?

That post cannot be separated from the hundreds if not a thousand exchanges that have preceded it between you and I. Do we have to summarize where we've been?
......

And no where among them did I play a game where I ignored the context of your decision to slam you on the grounds of you not making the perfect, not available choice.


You have a few good points, but you consistently bury them under various types of bs.

You have slammed me with lies, misrepresentations, deflections, and putting words into my mouth, accusing me in nearly every exchange of saying things I absolutely did not say. Then you can't back it up.

No, I don't. I try very hard to seriously address what you actually say.


If you think I have done that, it is probably more a result of the way you ramble on, and make a lot of big leaps of logic, and/or are quite vague at times.

The only issue I'm specific on is specifics. If your political opposition knows what you're doing because you're an idiot enough to talk strategies on an open forum you're going to lose.

You have admitted you don't know the laws, history of immigration, nor anything remotely related to views in opposition to yours. You are not prepared for the fight and you are a piss poor spokesman for the cause. In the history of the wallist religion, when anyone has ever changed their view, it has been to adopt the left's viewpoint.

My view has not been considered by mainstream sources yet. I'm counting on that. Real change does not happen because you get the most votes.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

If a man driving down the road makes an improper U Turn, do you from then on refer to him as an illegal driver?

If you want to gather anything from this conversation, why not read the thread? It would make the thread much shorter and keep us from having to make the same, repetitive answers. Furthermore, being a keyboard commando and calling people names when you're so stupid that you didn't read the thread only proves the point I made in post # 36. Feel free to refer to it. I think I have your number.

Just for shits and giggles:

Employers own the jobs they create. They are free, constitutionally, to give the job to whomever they choose as one of the great hallmarks of our Republic is the Right to own private property. The fact that government disagrees only shows that you are living under an illegal / unconstitutional / de facto government That is a concept the wallists have tried to undermine since they grabbed national headlines back in 2003.

I have a ministry and my work consists of helping disenfranchised Americans get a second chance; it is a second chance that the wallists denied many people in the wallists war against little brown people from south of the border. The wallists views on private property, due process, the Right to privacy, and WHO the Constitution protects run 180 degrees opposite of what the founders intended. Adding insult to injury, if you fit that category in post #36, you are probably a socialist in a MAGA hat OR more accurately a useful idiot as the communists called them.

Of course you have shit for a real argument, which is you're a whiney narcissist scumbag with no principles other than stuffing your own pockets and to hell with the costs to others when you no longer feel like paying your criminal illegals and dump them, as your ilk usually do. Your imaginary right to unlimited cheap labor isn't a real one, just one you dreamed up for yourself. You and your fellow labor racketeering types need to be deported right along with your criminal employees, and with nothing to boot, not even clothes. That way you can really show us all the 'self made' loon crap for real instead of just sniveling as if you did it all before.

I had a similar criticism leveled at me earlier. I'm modifying it to fit you since you are too stupid to read the thread:

IF this were about wages, which you claim are going up without a wall, you've basically acknowledged the substantive part of my argument. So, mission accomplished.

What you fail to see in all your know it all arrogance when you have admitted you have never studied immigration law nor history is that the demigod you follow inherited his money. He didn't earn it. He was never a Republican, and he's telling you what you want to hear while he sets you up for the ultimate defeat. MOST of his shit gets defeated in court and the parts where government imposes on your Rights and mine are what is left on the books.

He promised you a wall and then said Mexico would pay for it. Then he threatened to take it from the military and Socialist Security. Now he says he will charge tariffs... which will be passed on to you. And you get a bigger paycheck which is then offset by a rise in prices so the Mexicans will have the money to give you in the first place. His ONLY other alternative is to use ideas I put forth more than a decade ago.

You are a lying son of a bitch. THAT is one thing I'm proving. I pay my help far more than what I made (inflation figured into the equation) when I was in their position. I give chances to people your dumb asslocked out of the job market with that crap about National ID / REAL ID Act - E-Verify which disenfranchised an entire generation of your fellow Americans. The only fucking thing you've done with your life is post 100,000 plus posts on discussions boards and made some Internet buddies that wouldn't throw a cup of cold water on you if you were burning in Hell fire.

I've created opportunities and been of service to poor American peoplethat cannot afford the high wages you want for sitting on your ass arguing on the Internet and then thinking you're worth the big bucks for doing entry level work that a third worlder could do. I specialize in helping the poor to be able to afford a house, get a job opportunity that they otherwise would not get. Other than this popularity contest you're engaged in, what have you done?

Right now, at this moment, I have a 96 year old woman living in my house because she is almost blind and her relatives don't give a shit about her. I don't make a dime off it... fact is, it's costing me money. The irony is, she hates it here, but where she was staying would be closed by the county as uninhabitable if they went there. I have a couple of kids that got out of dysfunctional homes that depend on me to help get them get a job and one guy that is making 2 grand a week a few years after I helped him after his parents kicked him out of the house and he was living in a Jeep. The only thing you want to do is worship a fat ass rich white boy that hired undocumented workers before he ran for president, kept them on after his election, and will work them AFTER he leaves office. You know it and so do I.

This week IBM lays off a thousand people and your demigod is trying to give the Saudis contracts to build bombs for the United States:

U.S. 'smart' bombs will be built in Saudi Arabia under Trump arms deal

What I'm accomplishing here is to expose stupidity and it will remain as a record that what we said was known years before you were willing to admit that you had the choice put before you and failed to listen to sound counsel. As for the Mexicans and those south of the border, since it is people who think like you that do most of the mass shootings, I'd be much obliged if you'd point those assholes south of the border and help save a few American lives. Dylan Roof was one of yours. So, don't try to preach to me about how much you care about Americans.

Politicians tell you what you want to hear and, like it or not, foreigners come here because they are profitable for big business. They pay taxes, outwork your sorry ass, complain less, and produce more. For that reason big business will continue to work them unless and until OUR culture changes. Americans will have to do what I do. You commit to one another. You do work for the poor and always pay it forward. You will be blessed because your fellow man will then look out for you. I'm not rich, but I have more security than any person on this board. Any American willing to forth the effort, work hard, and display a modicum of loyalty has no legitimate reason to be unemployed or worrying about non-existent "illegals." You watch your fellow American's back, he watches yours and there is no incentive for foreigners to come here.

Some self-admitted criminal sociopath has written some screed, as if he had any credibility. lol what a pathetic gimp.

J.T. Ready was in that group who wrote the talking points for today's anti-immigrant faction I call the wallists. It is THE message of the Trumpeteers.

lol ... 'Wallist' .... 'Trumpeteer' ... you're one deranged loon. We know walls work, or else you gimps wouldn't be whining about them. All of your pols have them around their houses. They know they work, and like you they know they're lying.

You wouldn't call me names to my face. So, having reminded you of that and reminding you that we do have PM for the personal stuff, it would be YOU that is the liar. Historians, military strategists, and economists have all acknowledged that walls don't work:

Walls Don't Work

You'd have to read the link and develop a counter argument in order to have a valid criticism.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

1) Again you drone one and on and call me dishonest. You are the pot what calls the kettle black. You have demonstrated your abject stupidity by claiming that I lie and the only thing you put forth is a lie that has been factually REFUTED... making YOU THE DISHONEST ONE

Walls Don't Work

2) The only person playing games is YOU and nobody is reading your point by point criticism. I won't do it further; I'll simply move forward if you continue this kind of silly shit that NOBODY reads. You said you couldn't read long posts, so don't expect me to

3) Because you will not study the issues and you continue to knowingly lie about me and try to present me as being dishonest when the fact of the matter is that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground about this subject, you are stuck with a belief in the wall with no supporting evidence AND HISTORY TESTIFYING AGAINST YOU

4) You do not have the constitutional authority to force a business to hire any damn body. That's the point! You don't own the jobs. You didn't stay up at nights and work week-ends and holidays to create the job. You don't know the meaning of the word arrogance because you keep projecting.

Correll, you don't have what it takes to take from me. You've tried to steal from me at every opportunity; you've lied; you've misrepresented the facts; you've never created a damn thing but a little chaos on a discussion board. I worked hard for what I have. You don't have the balls to take it; government cannot, constitutionally, take it from me. So, while you're advocating illegal and unconstitutional actions, I can understand your apathy toward the Second Amendment and your fellow Americans

5) A substantial number of Americans disagree with your position. They willingly do business with foreigners. As time progresses, that majority is growing. I read an unverified figure that 70 percent of Americans were still "white." A good many of them are liberal. Every election cycle, people like you become less influential.

We started to do that massive deportation thing; the optics didn't work and Trump blinked (your dumb ass was sleeping on that one.) With so many of these foreigners having American families, it would appear your idiotic ass would wake up. Deportation on a massive scale won't happen. Separating families over a civil misdemeanor would be shot down in the federal courts as a violation of the 8th Amendment.

6) You aren't going to use force - you lack the foot soldiers among the citizenry to do it and it cannot be done due to that stumbling block called the Constitution. You can incentivize businesses to hire all American staffs, but you can't force them to do it. Laws are not stopping it and never have - never will. See the above link.

1. Walls work. That is why our houses have them.


2. Keeping outsiders OUT, is a function of government. Having an immigration policy or a policy of a tight labor market is not "Forcing" an employer to hire someone.


3. I am aware of the demographics. That the long term looks bad, is not a reason to just give up now.

4. You sure deportations have stopped? Can you support that?

1) Houses are not nations. Let us destroy your house theory yet again. How many times does this make?

If America is a "house" in your analogy, then each room in that house is a state. If each state pays its share of the rent (in this analogy that would be taxes) then who they invite into their room as guests and how they choose to maintain their room is none of your damn business

2) Show me in the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation or the Constitution where the function of government is to keep outsiders (sic) out

3) I have never advocated or ever thought about giving up. You just don't give a numerically superior number of enemies a reason to attack you. Trump failed to get his signature legislation passed in his first term and Obama got his passed in his first year. Quit being a dumb ass

4) I have never said that deportations stopped. Are you stupid or simply addicted to lying? Really dude, are you that desperate?

Mass deportations and separating families went over like a farting contest in Sunday school. Hell, Rip Van Winkle, where were you?

1. It is my business since they and/or their impact won't stay in those other rooms. Your claim that you have demolished my argument on this before, was self serving nonsense.


2. THe function of government keeping outsiders out, is part of the definition of government, not something specific to our government.


3. If you fear to even try to pursue government policies to serve our interests, for fear of provoking attack, then you are indeed, advocating for giving up. THat is what giving up IS.

4. Your words, old man. "We started to do that massive deportation thing; the optics didn't work and Trump blinked (your dumb ass was sleeping on that one.)...Deportation on a massive scale won't happen." So, support your claim that mass deportations are not happening.

1) Right now, if anything, you benefit off the cheap labor market (as you allege it is.) I have totally demolished your arguments and let me explain why.

When people like you, pismoe, and picaro (sp?) ignore questions and you think you are debating this stuff on boards, you make a critical mistake. In order to refute my arguments, you have to:

A) Know what the argument is
B) Offer a counter to that argument and a source. Your disbelief in what I'm saying is insufficient. To disbelieve does not disprove
C) Access and read the links I leave which you guys do not do. That's why your personal attacks are totally ridiculous and chickenshit stuff you would never, under any circumstances, say to my face
D) In formal debates, that which is not specifically denied is deemed admitted. Since you won't even read the material presented, you have by default admitted to the substantial part of my argument

2) Show me, the in Constitution, where it is the job of government to keep people out. Your opinion does not constitute fact

3) Your self definition of words has been proven false. If I prefer not to go one on one with an enemy where THEIR victory is assured is not a sign of defeat. What you advocate is stupidity. You attack a numerically superior enemy with political guerrilla warfare. You use their momentum against them. This was explained to you before

4) Trump considered mass deportation of migrant families, including in Chicago

You aren't debating squat, you have no facts, just your rationalizations for criminal acts. You can't help but lie and make up fantasy 'rights' for yourself.

That was utter bullshit. Who are you really trying to convince... me or YOU?

 

[Correll]

Massive dishonesty there. That we have managed to tighten up the labor market some, without a wall, does not mean that a wall would not help to do so more or maintain gains made.





He inherited a large amount and grew it. No mean feat. I've seen people inherit and fail to even maintain.


Your silly game of conflating political support with worship, is a sign that you know your argument is weak and needs bolstered by silly games.




This point would be more credible, if you didn't play games like calling Trump, " demigod".


I deleted a lot of filler.



No, foreigners come here because THEY can make money. They are allowed to come here because donors of both parties want the cheap labor, and the dems want the votes.


I don't know why you included the bit about "politicians telling you what you want to hear". Why not fill your posts with observations about water being wet, and ice being cold?


Or until we use our political power to deport their asses and make big business hire Americans or shut down. FUCK THEM.


None of the explains why we should let foreigners flood our labor market, or addresses the fact that doing so hurts the American workers.

1) Again you drone one and on and call me dishonest. You are the pot what calls the kettle black. You have demonstrated your abject stupidity by claiming that I lie and the only thing you put forth is a lie that has been factually REFUTED... making YOU THE DISHONEST ONE

Walls Don't Work

2) The only person playing games is YOU and nobody is reading your point by point criticism. I won't do it further; I'll simply move forward if you continue this kind of silly shit that NOBODY reads. You said you couldn't read long posts, so don't expect me to

3) Because you will not study the issues and you continue to knowingly lie about me and try to present me as being dishonest when the fact of the matter is that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground about this subject, you are stuck with a belief in the wall with no supporting evidence AND HISTORY TESTIFYING AGAINST YOU

4) You do not have the constitutional authority to force a business to hire any damn body. That's the point! You don't own the jobs. You didn't stay up at nights and work week-ends and holidays to create the job. You don't know the meaning of the word arrogance because you keep projecting.

Correll, you don't have what it takes to take from me. You've tried to steal from me at every opportunity; you've lied; you've misrepresented the facts; you've never created a damn thing but a little chaos on a discussion board. I worked hard for what I have. You don't have the balls to take it; government cannot, constitutionally, take it from me. So, while you're advocating illegal and unconstitutional actions, I can understand your apathy toward the Second Amendment and your fellow Americans

5) A substantial number of Americans disagree with your position. They willingly do business with foreigners. As time progresses, that majority is growing. I read an unverified figure that 70 percent of Americans were still "white." A good many of them are liberal. Every election cycle, people like you become less influential.

We started to do that massive deportation thing; the optics didn't work and Trump blinked (your dumb ass was sleeping on that one.) With so many of these foreigners having American families, it would appear your idiotic ass would wake up. Deportation on a massive scale won't happen. Separating families over a civil misdemeanor would be shot down in the federal courts as a violation of the 8th Amendment.

6) You aren't going to use force - you lack the foot soldiers among the citizenry to do it and it cannot be done due to that stumbling block called the Constitution. You can incentivize businesses to hire all American staffs, but you can't force them to do it. Laws are not stopping it and never have - never will. See the above link.

1. Walls work. That is why our houses have them.


2. Keeping outsiders OUT, is a function of government. Having an immigration policy or a policy of a tight labor market is not "Forcing" an employer to hire someone.


3. I am aware of the demographics. That the long term looks bad, is not a reason to just give up now.

4. You sure deportations have stopped? Can you support that?

1) Houses are not nations. Let us destroy your house theory yet again. How many times does this make?

If America is a "house" in your analogy, then each room in that house is a state. If each state pays its share of the rent (in this analogy that would be taxes) then who they invite into their room as guests and how they choose to maintain their room is none of your damn business

2) Show me in the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation or the Constitution where the function of government is to keep outsiders (sic) out

3) I have never advocated or ever thought about giving up. You just don't give a numerically superior number of enemies a reason to attack you. Trump failed to get his signature legislation passed in his first term and Obama got his passed in his first year. Quit being a dumb ass

4) I have never said that deportations stopped. Are you stupid or simply addicted to lying? Really dude, are you that desperate?

Mass deportations and separating families went over like a farting contest in Sunday school. Hell, Rip Van Winkle, where were you?

1. It is my business since they and/or their impact won't stay in those other rooms. Your claim that you have demolished my argument on this before, was self serving nonsense.


2. THe function of government keeping outsiders out, is part of the definition of government, not something specific to our government.


3. If you fear to even try to pursue government policies to serve our interests, for fear of provoking attack, then you are indeed, advocating for giving up. THat is what giving up IS.

4. Your words, old man. "We started to do that massive deportation thing; the optics didn't work and Trump blinked (your dumb ass was sleeping on that one.)...Deportation on a massive scale won't happen." So, support your claim that mass deportations are not happening.

1) Right now, if anything, you benefit off the cheap labor market (as you allege it is.) I have totally demolished your arguments and let me explain why.

When people like you, pismoe, and picaro (sp?) ignore questions and you think you are debating this stuff on boards, you make a critical mistake. In order to refute my arguments, you have to:

A) Know what the argument is
B) Offer a counter to that argument and a source. Your disbelief in what I'm saying is insufficient. To disbelieve does not disprove
C) Access and read the links I leave which you guys do not do. That's why your personal attacks are totally ridiculous and chickenshit stuff you would never, under any circumstances, say to my face
D) In formal debates, that which is not specifically denied is deemed admitted. Since you won't even read the material presented, you have by default admitted to the substantial part of my argument

2) Show me, the in Constitution, where it is the job of government to keep people out. Your opinion does not constitute fact

3) Your self definition of words has been proven false. If I prefer not to go one on one with an enemy where THEIR victory is assured is not a sign of defeat. What you advocate is stupidity. You attack a numerically superior enemy with political guerrilla warfare. You use their momentum against them. This was explained to you before

4) Trump considered mass deportation of migrant families, including in Chicago

1. A I know your argument(s). Here is it that we benefit from the cheap labor. I acknowledge the benefits of cheap labor.
B. My counter is the low wages caused by cheap labor, is a problem for America. Do you need a source to know about wage stagnation?I
C. I don't need to read links on irrelevant information. I am not denying the benefits of cheap labor, for example.
D. I have admitted to parts of your argument. I was clear on that.


2. A group that does not control who enters it, is a group that survives based solely on luck. A group that does not control who enters it, and is attractive to other groups that are hostile to it, is doomed. That is logic. If our society cannot defend itself from being absorbed by hostile outsiders, we cease. Ink on paper is irrelevant to that fact.


3. I cite the interests of my people, and you argue against pursuing or defending the interests of my people for fear of provoking our enemies. If we are not even allowed to pursue our best interests, but our enemies are, then I that is losing and accepting the loss.


4. Got it. They decided against a flashy show. Nothing in that shows that they are not deporting people in large numbers, without the show.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

1) I've always stressed the realities on this thread without telling you where I stand personally. If people are only going to attack me, they obviously don't care what I think personally.

My argument is not about cheap labor. My argument is that competition is good for business and the globalists conned you. Their con involves taking the posterity of the founders out of the picture. You aided and abetted in a subtle form of genocide against the very people the Constitution was designed to protect

2) The current immigration laws were not about "controlling" who comes and goes; they were designed to reduce the white population

3) You don't win wars by provoking a numerically superior enemy. You allow them to sleep and do stupid things like the right has done and one day, they awaken to find they have been defeated

4) The simple fact is, Obama deported larger numbers of foreigners than Trump has. It's all part of the illusion. Politicians are not going to do anything significant to alter the status quo. If you want it changed, you begin by changing our culture. You don't end it there as you have tried to misrepresent me as saying, but you make your culture stronger.

 

[Dan Stubbs]

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Do you think locking up American in Armed camps is a violation of the Constitution?