Kings County to use public $ to fund bail for low income individuals

[WTH_Progs?]

They're in a pissing match with metro. Ca. for tard-socialist ideas.

King County to spend $400,000 on bail program for low-income individuals

 

[Dekster]

Not clear if they are just subsidizing bail bonds industry or are going to post the whole things, in which case $400K will be eaten up in a month at most.

 

[Staidhup]

If in fact this is true King county has now officially stepped off the abyss. Imagine what a get out of jail free card looks like, visit King county.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

They're in a pissing match with metro. Ca. for tard-socialist ideas.

King County to spend $400,000 on bail program for low-income individuals

Low risk, non violent people who are accused of crime should not have to spend week, months, or years locked up awaiting trial. It can ruin the life of an innocent person and it costs the government quite a lot to house them.

We in New Jersey have come up with a better way. A couple of years ago we did away with cash bail altogether. Each person who is arrested is assessed based on whether or not they will likely be a danger to the public, if they are a flight risk, and other factors. It is working. They are showing up in court, jail populations are lower, and there has a decrease in crimes committed by people who are out awaiting trial. Why? Because it is now the most dangerous ones who stay licked up- not the ones who can't afford to get out. Bail Bondsmen and bounty hunters hate it though. Too bad.

What do you think. Is it still socialism, or social justice?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Singapore has a minimal prison population. Most petty and non violent crimes are not punishable by any prison. They use various forms of corporeal punishment such as whipping or caning. Consequently there is a low recidivism rate.

 

[Staidhup]

Possibly the solution rests in the hands of the judge during the pre-trial bond hearing? For if a judge determines there is a risk then bail should be set, while on the other hand if the risk does not exist then bail should be waived, so why should the tax payer be responsible for providing financial insurance that a judge has deemed necessary to insure the defendant
will appear in court with a tax paid public defender? Appears rather ironic does it not?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Possibly the solution rests in the hands of the judge during the pre-trial bond hearing? For if a judge determines there is a risk then bail should be set, while on the other hand if the risk does not exist then bail should be waived, so why should the tax payer be responsible for providing financial insurance that a judge has deemed necessary to insure the defendant
will appear in court with a tax paid public defender? Appears rather ironic does it not?

See post #4 NO cash bail ever.

 

[Staidhup]

It would be interesting in knowing what the default rate is as defined by those failing to show up in court?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

It would be interesting in knowing what the default rate is as defined by those failing to show up in court?

I was not able to get any hard stats on that, but I have no reason to believe not showing for court has been a problem. There is a consensus that it is working. I willing to bet that there are fewer ROR's who don't show up than there were bail jumpers, because the hard core criminals face hard time are less likely to be released.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

They're in a pissing match with metro. Ca. for tard-socialist ideas.

King County to spend $400,000 on bail program for low-income individuals

The thread premise is an example of rightwing ignorance and stupidity.

Following the Constitution’s doctrine of a presumption of innocence isn’t ‘socialism.’

Indeed, public funds are used to afford a criminal defendant legal representation pursuant to the Sixth Amendment – this is no different.

 

[Staidhup]

Presumption of innocence until proven guilty remains a focal point of our legal system, however, a danger to society, flight risk, are another issue altogether. The fact that judges employ the right to release based on one's own recognizance is and retains a long history in our judicial system, so what crimes are being charged that require publicly funded bail?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

If you're not a repeat offender or the crime is minor you'll a get a personal recognizance bond.
Other than that you should to post bond,I see no reason why the taxpayer should foot the bill for a fuken repeat offender.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Singapore has a minimal prison population. Most petty and non violent crimes are not punishable by any prison. They use various forms of corporeal punishment such as whipping or caning. Consequently there is a low recidivism rate.

Did you mean "corporal" punishment?