Kim Petersen, an ex marine afternoon am talkshow host here in Atlanta, from where I hail, is on my radio right now. On his show we get the real hawks calling in. let me see if I can paraphrase the last call. Caller: (hillbilly twang) We haven't prosecuted a war properly since WWII. I think we need to pull all the troops out and bring in the bombers and carpet bomb until they're ready to talk. Kim: Yes, there's nothing like total anihilation to bring someone to the peace table. Caller: You don't see Japan trying to get into Pearl Harbor anymore, do ya? Kim: No and germany certainly changed their tune fairly quickly as well. They're on to something here.